Clive/Dave/illuia/yullia thread 2

This has got scam written all over it. Is there any proof these people are even where they say they are? The Go Fund Me spiel reads like it was written after someone read the threads on Mumsnet and cobbled together what people would expect to read. Summer holiday windup perhaps.

He also doesn't mention why they've been pratting about on Saint Lucia and then went to Grenada.

I'm not sure 'help I'm stranded on a tropical island' is quite the sell Clive thinks it is, especially when he mentioned they abandoned their elder daughter at home to allow Iullia to selfishly have a freebirth.

Note that the rewrite also excludes the part about being enslaved, which was mentioned in PPs earlier today!

So they've provided a DNA test. It doesn't actually say they've got the results though. It wouldnt surprise me if they've just done the test and that's it.

Bring Louisa back home

We have been left stranded by the British government in Grenada a sovereign country

Even now 2 weeks later after providing a DNA test we are still not given any travel documents for our baby

Louisa has never met her 8 year old sister in the UK and the passport office in the UK Refuse to give our elizabeth 8 year old her renewal passport

We are asking for help to pay for legal funding accomodation and food

Our FAMILY is Broken

My Daughter is 8 years old, all she wants is her Mum back home and to be able to hold her baby sister for the first time

What are we supposed to do when your own country abandons you

We are not looking for sympathy only some support from loving people please

Mum is in tears everyday hair falling out and struggles to sleep at night which is traumatic when breastfeeding as we want the very best for our new baby Louisa whom is only 3 months young
A baby is innocent and we are being victimized for wanting a freebirth

I don't wish this feeling on any Mum

We have jumped through all their hoop's but to no avail it's heart wrenching to think this could happen to anyone of us

We have been treated like criminals the immigration and UK high commission
Have abandoned us it's our worst nightmare

Someone has to help surely

We have jumped through all their hoop's

How can a country abandon it's Sovereign people

How can people do this to people their own and a Mum I can't come to begin to understand

Is there any hope for any one of us friends or family could be in the same situation especially being told that a baby is entitled to a passport with right of soil Latin ( jus soli) guess the government's dont think they should follow laws anymore

We was told before we left the UK of our natural rights we researched and did our own due diligence but have been let down by the system

We pray that we will receive justice and remedy before it goes on any further

Please help anyway possible and thank you with love to all the people that care

The rewrite is interesting. Less emotional. And this time reads even more like it's written by Clive (there's a surprise!).

The eight year old is no longer distressed. Wouldn't want to look like bad parents now would we?

This is priceless!

I betcha Clive or Iullia has been reading! That would explain the total tone deafness!

I am also amused that no one has thrown them a couple of quid all day despite.

What do they actually need £15k for in this situation?

And it was already established that a birth certificate can take up to a month to issue even in ideal situations.

And then passports often take time too.

Have we established which country's passport they are applying for or why Louisa would qualify for a British jus soli citizenship when she was born abroad yet?!

Can the spies establish this for us please?

Why?

Would you not rather give that to the church fund?

😮at the £15,000 goal!!!!!
Cheeky effers!

'guess the government's dont think they should follow laws anymore'

I don't think they considered the law at all when making their extremely ill-judged and incredibly entitled and selfish voyage. What makes them think they're above the law?! It's precisely because the respective govts are rightly applying law that they're whinging.

Also, I'll usually sympathise with any mum with a newborn but:
Mum is in tears everyday hair falling out and struggles to sleep at night which is traumatic when breastfeeding as we want the very best for our new baby Louisa whom is only 3 months young

When I had a breastfed 3-month-old I wasn't getting much sleep, had recurrent mastitis, which meant lots of tears, and my hair was coming out in handfuls. Most of that is par-for-the-course with a newborn baby.

What’s the lowest amount you can donate on GoFundMe? I found 4 pennies and a 2p on the pavement outside a church yesterday - I’m happy to give that.

I think they might well be reading this thread. I did wonder if the "friend " on the other thread was actually Clive in a laydeez wig.

I would not at all be surprised if Hippy and Dippy were on Mumsnet. I must admit when I first read your comment, I thought you meant people had actually donated £15k, not that he had changed the target 😂 my mind was blown by the thought of £15k worth of muppets donating to them.

The page has also been updated to include:

Even now 2 weeks later after providing a DNA test we are still not given any travel documents for our baby

Someone commented on here how the DNA test hadn’t got a mention. So they’ve read that and updated it.

OMG - the GoFundMe amount has increased to £15k!!! I reckon Clive is following this thread on MN - might be how he thought of the idea to do a GoFundMe (would explain the delay between the news article and the GFM page) - and someone made the comment that they thought £5k was low, so he thought, bugger it, I’ll triple that! They’ve had £110 so far

Especially when there is no hair on your head to fall out 😅

I do feel mean commenting on the English, as it most likely isn’t Iulia’s mother tongue. But it strikes me as someone who genuinely has English as a second language rather than faking it. I get the feeling that she is writing it but he is giving her key phrases to put in.

What do you mean? They did they did due diligence!

They're not really ' admin ' people tbh.

Maybe only £5k as an initial target too.

I think that £5k is on the optimistic side.

I have to say I'm amused that it's taken four days since Clive talked to the press to set up the fundraiser.

I'm wondering if that's the pace that Clive works at admin tbh. Tough life being in Grenada with a newborn and a wife with her hair falling out you see.

I wonder what's up with the DNA test?

Is it just taking the time it's supposed to take? @Testina ? 👋🏼

They clearly don't watch Death in Paradise.

Fundraiser is only for £5,000 so is that just to keep them going for a bit longer? Flights home?
He said flight prices had gone up in the other article ( shock, British summer hols )

Lots and lots of foreign privilege going on in this story.

I wasn't going to comment on the English because it's probable it's not Iuliias first language so I don't have an issue with that. But the problem is I really rather suspect it's him not her that's written it cos of all the Freetwat phrases which I'm not convinced she's into in the same way (not had all those name changes for starters) and because if she wrote it, it'd be in her name not his. Plus with a newborn baby and her hair falling out and Clive to look after I'm not convinced she has the time.

I do really wonder what she sees in him mind.

I do think that was written by Ilulia rather than Clive as then English isn’t brilliant but I’m willing to bet that he has fed her lots of lines and phrases to put in.

oh my goodness.

I mean I do feel for these people because they are in the shit and this is so hard on their other daughter.

But there's " due diligence " and there's "absolute incompetence "

if they'd just gone to the hospital within the 3 days for starters.

Basically it looks like they can't get a passport for either of their daughters. God alive.

And no one cares if you want to freebirth! Freebirth away! Just get your shit together.

Welcome back RedToothbrush. That gave me a chuckle this morning 😅

I'd not be surprised if he was using yet another name on the off chance the person who commented in last thread really does know him, since he had been all sussed out about his past 😂

As for that GoFundMe. I can't decide who the bigger wing nuts are. Him and her for the poorly written, entitled rant on it, or the idiots who have actually donated to it!

Am not unsympathetic to her hair falling out but I suspect it’s mainly due to the fact that she recently had a baby!