To think hotels are very child unfriendly

I haven’t ever been woken up by a load of drunk adults going back to a hotel room.
But just like I choose not to stay in hotels that have facilities for children I choose not to stay in hotels that get booked by groups of drunk people.

It’s just utter fiction.

These posh upmarket establishments where adults are never drunk and loud or annoying but the kids riot around causing mayhem?

None of you have ever stayed in a hotel like that.

But goady posters on mumsnet hate kids and parents, so if the cap fits then wear it.

What's amusing you? You told another poster that she must be "literally" on another planet if she can stay in a hotel without being woken by rowdy drunks.
Don't judge everyone by your own standards.

Hahahahaha yeah right 🤡

It's not nonsense at all. You need a better class of hotel, clearly... no need for another planet.

You haven’t been woken up by drunk people coming into their rooms? Utter nonsense unless you are literally on another planet.

I'm 60, spend an average of 30 nights a year in hotels, if not more, and can't even remember the last time I saw a visibly drunk adult in the public area of a hotel. Maybe Vegas 15 years ago... and there were no kids around.

Exactly.

And that is "needs," not "wants."

You are going to the wrong type of hotels.

The main disturbance in hotels is drunk adults. But I’ve literally never seen a thread about that and inappropriate behaviour/ language in front of children. Bizarre.

Yeah but adults are allowed to be a pita. The constant goady fuckers on mumsnet literally hate children.

Theirs of course were apparently at 3 sitting nicely for hours on end, were never up with the lark and bouncing off the walls while they willed the clock on. Yeah right.

There will be adults who aren't quiet or silent in the lobby either. It's a hotel lobby, not a Quaker meeting, I don't think silence is to be expected.

Obviously they shouldn't be screaming or anything but I don't think they have to be silent

I agree. Kids who are running aroud blowing off steam are rarely doing it in silence, or even quietly.

It’s all very well for OP to say they were just running around but I don’t suppose they were doing it in complete silence.

Having worked in the hotel industry previously, if you have children under 12yo, I would strongly advise selecting a family friendly hotel.
Most hotel chains really only cater for adults and older children - many of these hotels accommodate business people Monday to Thursday who need peace and quiet and not having kids running around being noisy.

There’s no need to be making stupid noises with teddies at 7am! That would have been so annoying for your neighbours.

Even people staying at family-friendly hotels don't want kids running round and making loads of noise either.

There will be a bit more tolerance, but I would still get annoyed by the galumping giggling children knocking furniture over at 3am.

Child-friendly does not mean letting children doing what they want. It means catering for childrens' needs.

I have to ask @Ontheclifftop, why was it that it needed both of you to check in rather than one check in and the other take the children outside? Especially as you knew they needed to let off steam after the long drive?

I would have been frustrated with any running, whether around (which you've said didn't happen) or up and down by a wall (which you've said did). Whatever you may think, it's all still running and is very distracting if you're trying to relax or even just concentrate on what you're reading in the paper you said these two people were doing.

Our two are older now but one of us would have always taken them out of the situation (or never put them in it in the first place) if we were presented with it as it's just common sense and common courtesy to others.

Agreed @Whataretheodds - other children staying in a hotel definitely does not equate to that hotel being family friendly. It just means they allow families to stay there which is a very different kettle of fish.

As others have said, the giveaway to a hotel being family friendly is if they offer things targeted at families such as activities and kids entertainment etc. Even with a kids menu I would never assume that hotel was family friendly without at least one family targeted activity/entertainment/area too.

that's because most European countries are more enlightened when it comes to children. So many in this country seem to hate children and want them locked up out of their sight at all times.
This crops up every time a discussion about poor behaviour happens.

People disliking poor behaviour and permissive parents don't hate children, nor do they want children locked up.🙄

It's highly unlikely all these enlightened Europeans (which covers a huge range of cultures and norms) think it's acceptable for children to shriek, shout, and charge around in any location either.

I really question why some people in the UK take such a big issue with lazy parenting being challenged.

If someone's reaction to people (including parents) objecting to children running wild in shops/cafes, waking other hotel residents before 7am, charging around corridors, etc is to decide people hate children, they need to examine why.

oh i totally agree with you on that. Dogs are never the problem they are better than humans Sorry i probably did misread. I wasn't being harsh, genuinely worried about the little doggy. I think it's great you take him with you on holiday too, my mom has my dog as a i am abroad and she struggles to travel because the sitter that we trust is really expensive

I call Bingo.

Last time I was in France, which is one of these ‘European countries’ often cited, the French children in the cafes and restaurants sat at the table with their parents and joined in the conversation or ate quietly. They didn’t run around, watch programs or play games at full volume.
So what is different between the uk and European countries?

that's because most European countries are more enlightened when it comes to children. So many in this country seem to hate children and want them locked up out of their sight at all times.

^ 😂 “i had easy kids” - clearly you got through parenting by having very little emotional intelligence. But well done for being awesome and asserting your brilliance in an online forum. Top job.,

Well... where I live, children are only welcome in the supermarket if they either sit in the trolley or are under control. Meaning: don't throw food around, run into little old ladies with a dodgy hip, scream. I have seen a few families asked to go outside because they let their little terrors run amok while the adults ignored them even when they started opening crispbags (!) If you can't control your kids leave them at home/in the car/in the playground. A supermarket is a place of business, not a fairground