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Mainstream women's shoes only going up to a size 8

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AlwaysFreezing · 10/08/2023 17:08

And even then its not always a 42!

Took ds school shoe shopping today and while I was in and out of the various shoe shops, I had a quick look in the women's sections.

I am a 9, but a 43 9. Sometimes a 10. Not a single shoe was bigger than an 8.

Now, luckily I know where I can buy shoes that fit, but I was thinking about this, and isn't it ridiculous?

So, I'm wondering how many women here have feet larger than an 8? I mean, I imagine there aren't tens of thousands of us, but there just be enough to warrant shops selling 9s and 10s?

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Whenlifegivesyoulemonsmakelemonade · 10/08/2023 21:04

M&S are too small for me, even though they claim they're an 8. Next are great though.

Wellhellother · 10/08/2023 21:01

Next and m&s

Whenlifegivesyoulemonsmakelemonade · 10/08/2023 21:00

I am 5 ft 10 and a size 42, which in most shops means I can't fit in a size 8. So normally end up having to get size 9s. It was probably the most depressing thing for me growing up, seeing my friends being able to buy all the trendy shoes for school and I had to wear the ugliest shoes in the world! I remember a shop assistant and my mum having to make up a story that they would 'order them in' for me because I was so upset in the shoe shop. No surprises that those shoes never arrived! At least nowadays there are options and I'm sure I'll be able to help my daughter who is going to have similar issues in terms of shoe size.

TheGoogleMum · 10/08/2023 20:57

Try being an adult 2. It's kids shoes only pretty much!

namechangingplatypus · 10/08/2023 20:54

AlwaysFreezing · 10/08/2023 19:57

I can't understand this. Are you replying to someone?

How can a 9 be a 41 or 42 when you say a 41 is 7 in the next sentence?

Sorry, I thought I had succeeded in making the first line bold, meaning I was quoting the person who said 9 is 41. As far as I'm concerned, 41 is about a 7½.

alongtimeagoandfaraway · 10/08/2023 20:44

girlygirly · 10/08/2023 18:02

I was a size 8 in 1971 when I was 11. The only shoes I had a "choice" of were granny ones (not even my mum would wear them) or boys. You can imagine how much fun that was! I am now in my 60s and a size 9. Deichmann are good but pot luck if they have any left after the first 2 days, I've given up and wear mens a lot of the time. Particularly trainers.

I was similar, size 9 when I was 11 back in 1974. I had to wear the most horrendous shoes that my granny would have rejected as frumpy. Plus, my school uniform included knee length fawn socks which only came in one size and were far too small for me (and too short as I was tall too)so I had to wear some my mum had dyed approximately the right colour…
I came to London for university in 1982 and thought I had died and gone to heaven when I discovered the tall and small shoe shop in the basement at Lilley and Skinner on Oxford Street.
Then mainstream shops started stocking size 8 and I could get my feet into them so I convinced myself that they fit. I was in my 50s before I realised you didn’t have to be in pain when you wore shoes. I have hammer toes as a legacy of that long lasting bit of stupidity.
I now shop at Magnus which is expensive but one pair does me for a long time.

VWT5 · 10/08/2023 20:40

Size 9 / 43 here too.
Decided I can only shop at Gabor / Charles Clinkard going forwards.

AffIt · 10/08/2023 20:29

Crumbcatcher · 10/08/2023 19:11

How tall are you all? I'm size 6 at 5'11", I think my DDs will be taller than me so now I'm worrying about shoes!

I'm 5'8.5" (that 0.5" is very important!) and a size 9 - apparently, I should have been 6', if the old 'half the length of the thigh bone at 2' thing is to be believed (1980s kid here).

I also have massive hands, so maybe the rest of me just didn't get the memo.

AffIt · 10/08/2023 20:27

kitsuneghost · 10/08/2023 20:24

I'm a 3. But at least I can buy kids. Though I suppose bigger footed women can buy mens. It's thd bigger footed man that has nowhere to go.

I understand your reasoning, but no: men's shoes tend to be wider and as a narrow but long-footed woman, that doesn't work for me.

As a counterpart, I have a chum who is quite wee for a chap (5'5") and has size 5 feet: he says buying 'grown up' shoes on the high street is practically impossible.

kitsuneghost · 10/08/2023 20:24

enchantedsquirrelwood · 10/08/2023 17:10

My mum complains of the opposite - she and I are both size 4.5. I tend to buy all my shoes online, but she goes into shoe shops where she lives and says they often don't have anything smaller than a 5!

I'm a 3. But at least I can buy kids. Though I suppose bigger footed women can buy mens. It's thd bigger footed man that has nowhere to go.

AuditAngel · 10/08/2023 20:17

Sometimes TK Max have size 9’s, although usually nothing to my taste. I’m an 8, and wide so you have my sympathies. I looked at Clark’s as they used to do a fair number of 9’s, but not much showing. M&S advertised some, but other brands

Seddon · 10/08/2023 20:09

In outside the UK and don't have an issue - I'm a 9, occasionally a 10 in sports shoes, and have an alarming number of shoes.

I wonder if this is linked to the UK population being shorter, on average, compared to US/Australia/parts of Europe and therefore the average shoe size is also smaller?

My sons wear 13 and 15, the latter is tricky but not impossible thanks to online shopping from the US.

KirstenBlest · 10/08/2023 20:07

@AlwaysFreezing , sorry yes. UK 7 is 40 or 41.

gemsgv · 10/08/2023 20:03

It's the same with men's shoes. They only go to 11 or 12 and the 12 is often sold out because they don't stock many in case they get stuck with them

PurpleWhirple · 10/08/2023 19:59

Okay so not that recent but here it is

To think it's not unusual for a woman to have size 42+ feet ... http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4612972-to-think-its-not-unusual-for-a-woman-to-have-size-42-feet

AlwaysFreezing · 10/08/2023 19:57

namechangingplatypus · 10/08/2023 19:50

9 is 41 or 42.

Are you American? 41 (which is the size that fits me best) is usually considered either a 7 or 7½ in the UK.

I can't understand this. Are you replying to someone?

How can a 9 be a 41 or 42 when you say a 41 is 7 in the next sentence?

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user1467639835 · 10/08/2023 19:56

Me, I'm an 8.5. So can fit into some 8s.
Thank god for the internet. I remember in the early 90's traipsing round shops all day with not one shoe that fit me. Being told to either try men's shoes or possibly a transvestites shoe shop 😳

PurpleWhirple · 10/08/2023 19:54

There was a thread about this recently, I will see if I can find it as it had some good suggestions on it. Personally I find LTS good for big shoes and next okay. I have given up trying to buy them in shops though, I just order online and return most of what I buy.

Bonfire23 · 10/08/2023 19:54

I'm a size 41/42 so buy anything from 7-8 depending how it's labelled and what brand
5ft 10 and top heavy so I would fall over with smaller feet!

ladygindiva · 10/08/2023 19:51

enchantedsquirrelwood · 10/08/2023 17:10

My mum complains of the opposite - she and I are both size 4.5. I tend to buy all my shoes online, but she goes into shoe shops where she lives and says they often don't have anything smaller than a 5!

Yup I'm a wide 4 have the same experience

PurpleWhirple · 10/08/2023 19:51

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/08/2023 17:42

I guess it’s a profit thing? They don’t go above an 8 or below a 3 - kind off comparable sizes in terms of distance from the average which I think is 5.5 - because there aren’t enough people at those sizes to make the profit they want?

As it is those sizes always end up in the sale - if you’re a middle size like 5 you never get shoes in the sale.

Obviously you need to buy shoes OP, and I’m not saying it’s ok that everything is profit, profit but that’s probably why. I don’t know what the answer is for you or for women who take a size 2!

This is 100% incorrect

Have you never looked at the sale racks in a shoe shop? Rows and rows of size 4, 5 and 6, then half a shelf combined for size 8 and 9. Similar for size 3.

namechangingplatypus · 10/08/2023 19:50

9 is 41 or 42.

Are you American? 41 (which is the size that fits me best) is usually considered either a 7 or 7½ in the UK.

happyasaseagullstealingchips · 10/08/2023 19:50

I'm a 3 and it's awkward too I assume they don't stock many of that size as it's not so popular.

My long dead gran was a size 13 kids size. She was always wore heels and had to have them specially made. She had a trip to.Dublin from the country several times a year to have them made to measure.

nothingcomestonothing · 10/08/2023 19:49

My 14 year old DD is a 9 and has sensory issues. Buying school shoes is a nightmare.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 10/08/2023 19:41

dramoy · 10/08/2023 18:34

I think sizes have got bigger, I was a 39 which was a 6, now 6 is often a 40 which is too big for me. Plus my feet are wider then when I was young.

I think you're right, but most manufacturers still stop at 42, which is more often than not a 8, or even 7.5.

The correlation between UK and European sizes is not direct. There's usually a fraction of a size hanging, which some manufacturers round up, and some round down.

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