To never tip the Uber Eats driver?

I have been tipping them. I confess to not having a clue how they are actually paid. They aren't employees are they? Or are they? I didn't think they got an hourly rate just a fee per ride plus a bit of uncertainty about how much work they'd get.

I don't tip my hairdresser, manicurist, masseuse, postman, amazon driver, deliveroo. I work in the service industry and don't receive tips either, so it seems fair to me. What I don't get is why tipping in restaurants is expected?

I’ve never tipped the Deliveroo/ just eat etc drivers in my life, didn’t even know that was a thing as the driver fees are already included as a separate charge. I do sometimes tip Uber taxi drivers if I’ve had a good chat with them on the journey but not as standard.

Box of biscuits and celebrations

But that isn't the customer's fault. Not should it be the customer's responsibility to make up their wages to a decent amount.

I'd love to scrap the whole idea of tips and have more campaigns to allow people to earn a decent amount for their job role/type.

I agree with the posters who are querying why takeaway delivery is such a hard and thankless job it deserves extra remuneration compared to similar roles.
Does everyone tipping their takeaway driver also tip the postie, amazon delivery, waitrose/asda grocery delivery, argos, dpd/evri deliveries every single time?

Somehow I doubt it...but they all do a similar job, if anything the other types of drivers work harder because they do much longer shifts (most takeways only do b/w approx 6pm-11pm rather than 12 hours), and carry much heavier packages.

Uber eats etc. already add on extra money for the actual food itself, then a packaging cost, and a specific delivery cost, I'm not paying them any more! If they struggle to get staff to make the deliveries the compay will have to pay them more (which no doubt they'll then pass on to me again by upping the delivery charge!).

It's like the MN cleaner paradox.

Cleaners are considered savvy and competent business women with a distinct set of specialized skills. But they are also deserving and in need of lavish additional handouts because the rates they so savvily set are inadequate to live on.

(My cleaner is paid £15/hour for the record, doesn't pay tax by her own admission, is rather thick, both emotionally and intellectually. Plus I can definitely clean better, I just don't want to.)

I was wondering this too, but the delivery driver seems to have become this pitiful wretch in the minds of some who needs to £1 "crumbs" from the tables of those who see themselves as more well to do.

Nope. If they don’t like what pay they receive, then do something else. If these companies struggle to find drivers they will have to up their pay - and to do so they will have to balance between reducing their cut of the money or raising prices to customers.

At the end of the day I just want to pay the price of the food and any mandatory charges. I’m not going to tip in advance for a service that has not yet been rendered and is of unknown quality.

Also many of the drivers multiphone/multi app to increase their earnings and explains why sometimes you get the wrong order (they have stuck around McDonalds to pick up 2 separate orders from different phones or apps and got them confused) or they seemingly take some roundabout route to get to your home, causing delay and cold/soggy food.

If they're self employed they can set their own proces then right?

Obviously that's not how it works.
They "not employer" could pay them more. They don't want to.
It's not that hard and they've accepted the terms of employment. That's between the two of them and not my problem

Can someone enlighten me to what is hard work about being a delivery driver for takeaways?

Am I missing something? They collect an order prepared by someone else, follow driving instructions to another location then have about ten seconds of interaction.

I'm not saying that it's the best job in the world, but it must score pretty fucking low in terms of onerous responsibilities.

(I'm not talking about the conditions of the job - I'm talking about the tasks of the job)

To the posters repeatedly referring to the 'employers' and 'wages', who do you think is the employer of these self employed people?

That’s fine if you want to continue tipping, but don’t call other people tight for not tipping as you did earlier on this thread. It is the employer who is tight. The customer already pays a fee for delivery, so it’s perfectly acceptable not to effectively pay twice.

I always tip delivery drivers.

I see delivery drivers sitting outside McDonalds all the time waiting for orders to come in so there are obviously periods of time they are not earning anything.

I ordered from UberEats once, I had a voucher for £10 but they never told me there would be £7 of fees added on so I deleted the app!

Guineacup - haha lady bountiful? Tipping 2 quid? I think not. Nah, I think they deserve a tip, they're self employed, its hard work, and I doubt most of them reach those levels of earning in the article, I'll carry on thanks

I'm not sure where this idea that delivery drivers are some kind of pitiable charity cases. If it doesn't pay enough, they can get a job elsewhere in this job market, and creating a culture where lower paid people are at the mercy of customer whims for a portion of their pay isn't healthy.

If people were honest with themselves most pay delivery drivers because it's their little opportunity to play "lady bountiful" fleetingly.

www.zego.com/blog/is-it-worth-being-a-self-employed-courier-driver-the-complete-guide-2023/

I never ever tip. I’ll only tip in a restaurant if the food or service is impeccable. Someone wants more money than they are earning then they can find another job.

In the UK waiters are paid minimum wage.

I very rarely get food delivered, maybe once a year. I'd much rather eat out but if we are getting a takeaway then we collect it because it's faster and fresher that way. On the rare occasion that we get it delivered then I do tip.

I think I heard that Deliveroo take 30% of the cost from the restaurant.

You're thinking of the USA where tips are practically mandatory.

I tipped the guy who delivered our pizza last night because he was just uncommonly lovely, and apparently came to us via rocket because our pizzas were still super hot.

Ordinarily I don't tip though, I just felt he deserved it for cutting about in the rain delivering pizzas at lightning speed and still managing to be the most polite person I spoke to all day.

Waiter are paid a wage and do not reley on tips.