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Keeps walking ahead & leaving me behind

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Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 01:21

How would you feel in this scenario? You organise a major family holiday overseas for DH plus 2 teens, highlight of which is a day trip to visit one of the wonders of the world. So a big deal in terms of something really special to enjoy together as a family - a once in a lifetime thing. When we park, DH walks so fast towards the attraction which is about a 5 min walk, that I cant possibly keep up with him as I cant walk at same pace (im a regular speed walker, he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people) and have to dodge others using the same path. Our teens are able to keep up with his pace and as theyre increasingly taking cues from his behaviour they zoom ahead at speed at DH's pace, meaning Im tagging along behind. Im about 60 seconds behind them & i can see theyve almost reached the spot where theyll see the landmark for the first time - an experience a family would naturally want to share right? I call out for them to wait - my DH turns, sees that im only moments behind them and carries on to the main lookout point and they take in their first view of it without me. I get there a minute later and i feel so upset that i wasnt able to witness their reaction to seeing this incredible landmark which was the highlight of our whole trip. I ask DH why he didnt wait for me and he says 'you were slower than us, youre here now so it doesnt matter', completely oblivious to why id be upset that wed missed this shared family moment. He has often walked way ahead of me - like at airports - which ive always found pretty inconsiderate and rude. He says he just wants to get there and its not his fault if i 'walk slowly' (which i dont, he just zooms everywhere). This has left me feeling really overlooked and disregarded - I had arranged the whole trip (somewhere he wanted to go) and what really hurts is not just that he didnt even consider that this is something we were all doing together - its not 'together' if you leave someone behind - but that his behaviour is encouraging the same lack of consideration in our kids, who were so focussed on keeping up with him virtually sprinting down the street that they didnt wait for me either (which is to be expected as he was driving the behaviour). He had seen the landmark twice before too. He genuinely feels i have no reason at all to be offended or upset by what happened. I feel ive been robbed of a special family moment. I know that walking ahead is often mentioned as a common narcissistic personality trait. He does show some other elements around control etc and im now thinking is this behaviour designed to emphasise his role as the 'in charge' person, who doesnt feel the need to compromise to show consideration for others? And that walking together in a group gives off some kind of air of equality that they cant deal with? AIBU for feeling really upset about this? Its left me in tears

OP posts:
Caipirovska · 07/08/2023 13:48

he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people

It was noticeable this last week away that my teen DD and me got walked into and walked in front of much more than DS or DH which does slow us down - often had to get in slip stream of them to get through crowds but DH and Ds aren't barging though people.

Barging though does suggest a bit of an attitude towards everyone including the OP though even normal walking off is upsetting if you are the one struggling behind feeling everyone is impatient with you and feeling under pressure to stop holding everyone up.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/08/2023 13:44

One of these days, OP, your husband will plough ahead, barge somebody over and receive a well-deserved smack for it. I hope you will be there to witness it.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/08/2023 13:42

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 13:36

How caring and loving you sound. Your idea of companionship is very transactional.

Most people don't think like this.

I don't see anything amiss with afishcalledbreanda's post? It's not transaction, it sounds mutually respectful and caring to me. Perhaps you've misread it?

Why would you go on holiday with others if not to spend time with them? Is it just to avoid a single supplement? Surely that would be a small price to pay if that were the case?

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 13:42

saraclara · 07/08/2023 13:38

I'm a naturally fast walker. I've never found it an effort at all to slow down when required.

Either there's something quite wrong with those who can't, or its just an excuse for your impatience with others.

Exactly. I prefer walking fast. But I can walk slower and often do. And if someone I cared for asked me to slow down, I definitely would. It's about caring for others.

Naunet · 07/08/2023 13:38

Mari9999 · 07/08/2023 11:27

@Gotthetshirt1

I am not sure that I can understand this complaint. You say that your children are keeping up pace with your husband. Perhaps they are all walking at for them what is a normal pace. You say that you arrived s moment later. You say this happens with your husband all of the time.

Is it possible that he might agree to slow down a bit if you agreed to step up your pace a bit? Do you have a physical condition that prohibits you from keeping pave with the rest of your family?

Maybe they did not know that a condition of enjoyment for you was that you all see the sight at the exact same moment.

If something is that important to you, it is on you to convey that to your family. You may not be able to get your husband to slow down. It may be as difficult for him to slow down as it is for you to speed up, but surely you have some control over your children.

I can truthfully say that my family has traveled extensively on various continents, and I don't think anyone of us could say at what particular moment any of us viewed a given site for the first time. But if that mattered to you , then you should have made them aware of that. I don't think that you should have assumed that to be something that would have normally occurred to them.

An option for some local activities might be to go separately and meet them at the location. In doing this ,no one has to curtail or modify their movements , and you can enjoy the activity without critiquing each other's
pace.

he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people

So if the kids copy his behaviour and have started barging people out of the way, does that somehow make him right on that front too?

Hes an arrogant prick, barging people because he thinks he’s so important.

saraclara · 07/08/2023 13:38

ShiteRider · 07/08/2023 12:30

Then you clearly don’t get it. If someone is naturally a fast walker, walking more slowly takes constant mental and physical effort. It feels uncomfortable, like an itch that you can’t scratch or a craving for a cigarette.

I'm a naturally fast walker. I've never found it an effort at all to slow down when required.

Either there's something quite wrong with those who can't, or its just an excuse for your impatience with others.

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 13:36

afishcalledbreanda · 07/08/2023 11:27

Why do we go on holiday with others if it's not to share the experience?

Because we want someone to talk to over dinner in the evening. Because travelling is easier with another person at times — helps reduce the stress. Because sharing the driving and the cost makes it easier to go away. Because our holiday companion speaks the language/ knows about art and architecture and enjoys sharing their skills. Because we like their company and we both choose to holiday together. I could go on.

How caring and loving you sound. Your idea of companionship is very transactional.

Most people don't think like this.

daisiesandpeonies · 07/08/2023 13:15

My Grandfather was very tall - and my Granny very short. He always walked fast when he wasn't with her; I remember struggling to keep up with him even though there was 60 years between us! Granny on the other hand was a really slow walker, almost frustratingly so.
But when Grandad was out with my Granny, he walked really slowly too. I remember him saying that he lets Granny 'set the pace', and deliberately stayed a little bit behind her to make sure she didn't feel rushed. He never paced ahead of her, or told her to hurry up.
They traveled all over Europe together during their 65 years of marriage, with their children and with us grandkids too. The worst thing any of us could do in his eyes was disrespect/back chat her and he talked about her like she was a Goddess to the very last. Miss them both ❤️

WildFlowerBees · 07/08/2023 13:13

Op doesn't sound like a dawdler, it's rude to march off and leave others behind because you can't control your lack of patience.

He and the kids could've waited for op to catch up at the entrance or a couple of minutes before seeing the sight allowing them all to experience it together but selfishly he didn't.

The issue isn't ops pace it's her rude and thoughtless dh. No one enjoys being frog marched from A to B.

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 07/08/2023 13:12

RampantIvy · 07/08/2023 12:16

I couldnt imagine going ahead knowing that it meant another member of the family missing out on that moment. Why would i even?

I'm sorry, but I don't get this "missing out on that moment" issue.

Why does it matter if one of you gets to see the beautiful view before the others?

I agree that you husband is being a dick, but the other issue is just a non issue for me.

I am a fairly fast walker, but I adjust my speed to the slower walkers. Although, I agree walking at a different speed to your normal is tiring whether it is too fast or too slow.

It matters to the op, even if you don't agree with this.

Imo your partner or spouses feelings should matter to you. If my dh thought something was important, I wouldn't disregard this in favour of something I could easily change with no impact to myself

wizzywig · 07/08/2023 13:12

I'd bide my time. Next holiday, park far away. Let them all get out and let them walk to the destination. You then park much closer and get see the thing before they do. Next book a lunch/ dinner for quarter past the hour. Tell them the tables booked for half past. Tuck in

Backstreets · 07/08/2023 13:11

RenoDakota · 07/08/2023 12:00

I hear you, OP. My ex husband was like this.
He did it in supermarkets as well - I used to go looking down aisles for him and there was no sign of the fucker. Used to put me in an absolute fuming rage and one night I walked out (of the supermarket) and left him there.
Took me a bit longer to walk out of the marriage but I did.
All the best to you.

Good for you!
The road runners on this thread spectacularly miss the point - accommodating a slower walker is about respect and making sure nobody is left behind.

99victoria · 07/08/2023 13:03

I often have this with my husband. He's about 10 inches taller than me so, although I think I walk at a good pace, he often marches off ahead of me.

I make him hold my hand when we're walking then he has to walk at my pace. It's a bit of a joke between us now 😂

JusthereforXmas · 07/08/2023 12:54

Sh4rkAttack · 07/08/2023 12:04

I have found this thread fascinating. I have a lot of sympathy for the op, but as a fast walker I can relate to the husband's behaviour too. Lots of people on this thread are asking why the ones striding on ahead can't just slow down, as if it is just a simple adjustment when you set off to decide to walk at a slower pace, but it actually requires constant effort and attention. If I am walking with others I have to make a real effort not to naturally move to the front of the group. Once in front I find myself pulling ahead, even when consciously trying to slow down. To counter this I might deliberately stay back, but then I find myself having to constantly stop and wait, or anticipate places where the person in front of me is likely to slow down so that I don't accidentally bump into them. It does take constant effort, it is frustrating and it takes a lot of the pleasure out of walking.
In many situations it is easier all round if everyone just sets a pace they're comfortable with and regroups from time to time.

The thing is it doesn't though.

I can walk normal speed for very short bursts but have to stop and rest every 10 meters or so.

I often find in any group walk where you are talking we all walk VERY slow, to the point I dont need to stop because theres been no exertion. The slow walking is actually an ABSENCE of thought because you are focused on the convocation not walking.

Its like when children go through early developement they split into 2 categories = walkers and talkers. Walkers have better fine motor skill, Talkers have better communication skills. Even as an adult when you focus on one the other slows down, thats why most people struggle to talk while doing fiddly fine motor tasks and people slow their walking whilst talking.

Powering off ahead is literally the same as willfully ignoring someone.

5128gap · 07/08/2023 12:51

Sounds deliberate and passive aggressive to me. Is he nursing some resentment he hasn't got the courage to voice?

ShiteRider · 07/08/2023 12:50

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/08/2023 12:45

Then you clearly don’t get it. If someone is naturally a fast walker, walking more slowly takes constant mental and physical effort. It feels uncomfortable, like an itch that you can’t scratch or a craving for a cigarette.

Surely walking speed is on a sliding scale? Why should it be any harder for a very fast walker to slow down to a medium speed than for a medium-paced walker to slow down to a slow speed? Most people aside from long-legged sporty men would consider me a fast walker, but I'm perfectly capable of slowing down.

Someone upthread mentioned ADHD and as I get older I definitely think I have it. When I walk it’s like a physical need for movement, the messages my brain gets when I walk calm and ground it. When I’m walking to somewhere I’m focussed on that and not particularly on what’s going on around me.

I can walk slower but it’s not natural and would be a constant and very tiring effort.

DH and I joke that I need reins so he can pull me back if I’m too far ahead. For me, it doesn’t feel fast, it feels comfortable and enjoyable so I don’t even know I’m doing it. I get frustrated with him in the same way that he does with me.

Miaminmoo · 07/08/2023 12:50

My DH often does this but my sons always wait for me and he’s the one who ends up on his own walking ahead of everyone. He’s gradually doing it less as we all refuse to walk at warp speed everywhere. I’ve long known my DH has narcissistic tendencies but fortunately he has other redeeming features and none of us enable his most offensive traits so he just ends up looking petty.

AnxiousPixie · 07/08/2023 12:49

My husband walks faster than I do. But he's ok when I point or it's annoying and has become an ongoing joke that I will hold his hand to get him to match my pace.

The difference here seems to be his complete disregard of your feelings. If I shouted my DH to wait for me, he works stop and wait and raise what he had done. Not just ignore me and plough on regardless to experience something by himself that we had planned to experience together. That's shitty, selfish behaviour and would make me find someone very unattractive!

Does he ignore your feelings in other situations too?

FictionalCharacter · 07/08/2023 12:45

Dixiechickonhols · 07/08/2023 12:20

Op describes him as ultra fast and barging through.
That’s very different scenario to a couple walking at different paces.
Leaving Op trailing at airport. It’s horrible to watch women treated this way.
I can remember being a teen and my whole family sped off to a taxi. I was at a railway station and wheel had fallen off my suitcase. Total lack of concern for you is hurtful.

Yes, loads of people here are missing that. He isn't just a fast walker. He's one of those men who race ahead and barge people out if the way, she said that in the very first post.

That is abnormal and extremely rude behaviour. These are the people who want to stride ahead in a straight line, oblivious of other people, sweeping aside the human beings they see as no more than obstacles.

Regarding this as an issue of one person wanting to walk faster than another is completely missing the point. People are calling OP slow or a dawdler, and she's said she is actually a fast walker.

I mentioned an article about walking ahead being a narcissistic behaviour. I just did a search and there are a lot of articles and videos about this.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/08/2023 12:45

Then you clearly don’t get it. If someone is naturally a fast walker, walking more slowly takes constant mental and physical effort. It feels uncomfortable, like an itch that you can’t scratch or a craving for a cigarette.

Surely walking speed is on a sliding scale? Why should it be any harder for a very fast walker to slow down to a medium speed than for a medium-paced walker to slow down to a slow speed? Most people aside from long-legged sporty men would consider me a fast walker, but I'm perfectly capable of slowing down.

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 12:41

Thank you @WellPlaced - lots of replies telling me i need to "compromise" (how do you do that when youre already walking fast?) and he cant help it. He turned, knew i was almost there & carried on. And this is common behaviour for him. Which i largely shrug off as its gone on for so long, but this time it meant missing a big moment with my kids.

OP posts:
afishcalledbreanda · 07/08/2023 12:38

NatashaDancing · 07/08/2023 12:04

Loads of reasons - co ordinating the first time you see something all exactly at the same split second isn't one of them.

That was the point I was trying to make.

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 12:36

Interested to know what kind of "compromise" on my part would have avoided me being left behind in the scenario i explained. Sprinting the entire way and barging through people like he did? I was walking fast. He was bulldozing through everyone. This isnt a one-off.

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ManateeFair · 07/08/2023 12:31

I think there's an awful lot more going on in your post than most PPs seem to have realised.

This isn't just about your husband walking too fast, is it? It's pretty obvious that the reason it upset you so much is because you feel it's part of a wider pattern of controlling/bullying behaviour on his part. You even say in your post that he can be controlling in other ways. Rather than focusing on the fast walking, you need to look at the wider dynamic between you and consider the bigger picture.

If you'd just said 'My husband walks faster than me and as a result, I didn't get to experience the site of a famous landmark at the exact time as my teenage children and so I cried' then quite honestly I'd tell you to get a grip. But the other details in your post suggest there is a lot, lot more going on than that. I think what you're actually upset about is that you feel bullied by your husband in general and that he's encouraging your kids to gang up on you and you're starting to see that the relationship isn't healthy.

ShiteRider · 07/08/2023 12:30

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/08/2023 12:14

Lots of people on this thread are asking why the ones striding on ahead can't just slow down, as if it is just a simple adjustment when you set off to decide to walk at a slower pace, but it actually requires constant effort and attention.

It is a simple adjustment imo. It's almost as if the fast walkers think that their slower-walking partners have never experienced walking with anyone who is even slower than them. Most of them will have done. It's not difficult.

Then you clearly don’t get it. If someone is naturally a fast walker, walking more slowly takes constant mental and physical effort. It feels uncomfortable, like an itch that you can’t scratch or a craving for a cigarette.

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