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Keeps walking ahead & leaving me behind

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Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 01:21

How would you feel in this scenario? You organise a major family holiday overseas for DH plus 2 teens, highlight of which is a day trip to visit one of the wonders of the world. So a big deal in terms of something really special to enjoy together as a family - a once in a lifetime thing. When we park, DH walks so fast towards the attraction which is about a 5 min walk, that I cant possibly keep up with him as I cant walk at same pace (im a regular speed walker, he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people) and have to dodge others using the same path. Our teens are able to keep up with his pace and as theyre increasingly taking cues from his behaviour they zoom ahead at speed at DH's pace, meaning Im tagging along behind. Im about 60 seconds behind them & i can see theyve almost reached the spot where theyll see the landmark for the first time - an experience a family would naturally want to share right? I call out for them to wait - my DH turns, sees that im only moments behind them and carries on to the main lookout point and they take in their first view of it without me. I get there a minute later and i feel so upset that i wasnt able to witness their reaction to seeing this incredible landmark which was the highlight of our whole trip. I ask DH why he didnt wait for me and he says 'you were slower than us, youre here now so it doesnt matter', completely oblivious to why id be upset that wed missed this shared family moment. He has often walked way ahead of me - like at airports - which ive always found pretty inconsiderate and rude. He says he just wants to get there and its not his fault if i 'walk slowly' (which i dont, he just zooms everywhere). This has left me feeling really overlooked and disregarded - I had arranged the whole trip (somewhere he wanted to go) and what really hurts is not just that he didnt even consider that this is something we were all doing together - its not 'together' if you leave someone behind - but that his behaviour is encouraging the same lack of consideration in our kids, who were so focussed on keeping up with him virtually sprinting down the street that they didnt wait for me either (which is to be expected as he was driving the behaviour). He had seen the landmark twice before too. He genuinely feels i have no reason at all to be offended or upset by what happened. I feel ive been robbed of a special family moment. I know that walking ahead is often mentioned as a common narcissistic personality trait. He does show some other elements around control etc and im now thinking is this behaviour designed to emphasise his role as the 'in charge' person, who doesnt feel the need to compromise to show consideration for others? And that walking together in a group gives off some kind of air of equality that they cant deal with? AIBU for feeling really upset about this? Its left me in tears

OP posts:
OutsideLookingOut · 07/08/2023 16:07

NatashaDancing · 07/08/2023 15:41

4. Nowhere did i mention being obsessed with capturing perfect social media moments. I wanted to experience this together as a family - we were on a family holiday. Not for anyone else.

You said repeatedly it had spolied your perfect family moment. It's irrelevant whether you had social media in mind or not. It was your notion of something that had to happen to all of you at the exact same split second - except nobody apart from you was bothered. And you all got to see whatever it was.

You have a legitimate complaint if they all steamed on ahead and no one kept you company on the walk up, if you wanted company. If I were your husband I'd accept that as fair criticism. But if you then over egged it that the perfect family moment was ruined, I'd find that cloying and irritating.

Why is OP not allowed to enjoy seeing something with all her family and enjoying their expressions? We don’t all like the same things but this is one innocent thing she likes. Some people like dining out together or creating things together. I don’t get the criticism. If I knew my partner really found this special within my power I’d want to do it for them even if it isn’t that important for me.

StellaLaBella · 07/08/2023 16:02

Caipirovska · 07/08/2023 13:48

he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people

It was noticeable this last week away that my teen DD and me got walked into and walked in front of much more than DS or DH which does slow us down - often had to get in slip stream of them to get through crowds but DH and Ds aren't barging though people.

Barging though does suggest a bit of an attitude towards everyone including the OP though even normal walking off is upsetting if you are the one struggling behind feeling everyone is impatient with you and feeling under pressure to stop holding everyone up.

Men barging into women who they expect to make way for them is very well documented. My DD decided last year she was consciously not going to move for the boys in the school corridor anymore, and she says they look completely shocked when she stands her ground and makes them move instead Smile

OP, I genuinely doubt your H will change, how that pans out is up to you. Sounds like it's indicative of other odious behaviour.

But you can, and should, correct your kids, and teach them this is not kind or considerate behaviour. Talk to them about all of it when your H isn't there. Their future partners will thank you, as will anyone they think they can barrel through just because they want to.

It's ill mannered, you're raising young adults, they need to be taught what is acceptable, and how to treat others with consideration.

NatashaDancing · 07/08/2023 15:41

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 14:03

To those whove embellished my post with their own version of events.

  1. I am not a 'dawdler' or a 'faffer' and i dont have 'mobility issues' - i regularly walk with many other people & this only occurs with DH.
  1. A person cant just "compromise and speed up" if theyre already walking at a pace where theyre almost breaking into a run. If youre walking at max pace and been left behind, there is no 'compromising' to be done. Please read what i posted not what you think i posted and know that your replies that im being 'selfish' by not keeping up - when there is no way of going even faster without sprinting everywhere - are in themselves rude.
  1. DH isnt doing this due to being physically 'unable' to lower his pace. Ive seen him adjust his behaviour for others.
  1. Nowhere did i mention being obsessed with capturing perfect social media moments. I wanted to experience this together as a family - we were on a family holiday. Not for anyone else.
  1. This upset me - if you dont care about sharing moments with others, good for you. That doesnt invalidate how it made me feel.

Thanks to those who actually got the point of my post.

4. Nowhere did i mention being obsessed with capturing perfect social media moments. I wanted to experience this together as a family - we were on a family holiday. Not for anyone else.

You said repeatedly it had spolied your perfect family moment. It's irrelevant whether you had social media in mind or not. It was your notion of something that had to happen to all of you at the exact same split second - except nobody apart from you was bothered. And you all got to see whatever it was.

You have a legitimate complaint if they all steamed on ahead and no one kept you company on the walk up, if you wanted company. If I were your husband I'd accept that as fair criticism. But if you then over egged it that the perfect family moment was ruined, I'd find that cloying and irritating.

Soopermum1 · 07/08/2023 15:21

ExH did this. To keep up I would have had to half walk/ half jog. I'm not a slow walker, it's just that my legs were shorter. I talked to him about it many times, he never got it. One of the many reasons why we're now divorced.

ohdamnitjanet · 07/08/2023 15:11

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Naunet · 07/08/2023 15:02

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 14:39

@Mari9999 how do you want me to 'up my pace a bit' if im already almost breaking into a run? I cant walk any faster than my fastest walking pace - which keeps pace easily with most people. Dont you accept that people have different max pace? A faster walker can slow down. A slower walker cant speed up if theyre at max pace

Maybe you can harness him to a trolley/sled of some sort and have him pull you along whilst you take in the sights in comfort!

In all seriousness, tell him you find it rude and disrespectful and that you won’t be going places with him anymore unless he can learn to consider others.

ohdamnitjanet · 07/08/2023 14:58

I intensely dislike men who don’t realise that in the normal scheme of things they will make more ground ( however fast you walk ) because the average man has LONGER LEGS. Of course he should slow down and walk at your pace. The last time a man did this to me ( work colleague ) I had a little sit down, meandered about a bit and made him fucking wait. Not that it would have helped you, OP, but maybe when it isn’t important sloooowwwww dowwwwn. Don’t speed up.

NatashaDancing · 07/08/2023 14:51

afishcalledbreanda · 07/08/2023 12:38

That was the point I was trying to make.

I was agreeing with you !

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/08/2023 14:47

MarioFart · 07/08/2023 11:58

I don’t think YABU at all.

Like an earlier PP my dad used to do similar but it was actually sitting in the car before we left to go out and he’d sit in the car revving the engine. My DM would be inside getting stressed, rushing around, making sure dogs were settled and house was locked up and had everything. I used to think it was amusing as a kid.

As an adult I see that it is dickhead behaviour and was part of a pattern of abusive/gaslighting behaviour. I realise now my dad is one of the most selfish unpleasant people going.

My ex did that sitting in the car thing too

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 14:39

@Mari9999 how do you want me to 'up my pace a bit' if im already almost breaking into a run? I cant walk any faster than my fastest walking pace - which keeps pace easily with most people. Dont you accept that people have different max pace? A faster walker can slow down. A slower walker cant speed up if theyre at max pace

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Naunet · 07/08/2023 14:38

ShiteRider · 07/08/2023 12:30

Then you clearly don’t get it. If someone is naturally a fast walker, walking more slowly takes constant mental and physical effort. It feels uncomfortable, like an itch that you can’t scratch or a craving for a cigarette.

Rubbish, you’re not built differently to anyone else. I’m a faster walker, my dog now has arthritis and walks very slow, there’s no extreme effort on my part to slow down. I mean almost every single mother on the planet has managed it with their toddlers. Thinking you’re entitled to barge other people out of the way just because you can’t possibly be expected to slow down and consider others like OPs DH does, is incredibly arrogant.

CruCru · 07/08/2023 14:34

I don’t think this is actually about walking quickly vs. Walking slowly. My Dad was a very fast walker and it meant that I’d get lost in crowds. He’d also do that thing where, once the other person arrived at “the thing”, he’d be pretty much ready to go.

I used to go out with someone who was sulky. When he was sulky he would walk really slowly (he was 6 ft 4, he could walk quickly when he wanted to). When I kept going at normal speed, he would then march past me.

There’s a mum at my children’s school who, when we are walking together, doesn’t make room for me on the pavement.

The OP feels like she missed out on something important to her because her husband didn’t accommodate her.

Elsiebear90 · 07/08/2023 14:23

I’m a fast walker, I find it really unnatural to walk slowly, it’s uncomfortable even, I don’t zoom around everywhere (maybe to slow walkers it seems like I do) and barge through people, I will walk slower if I have to, but it doesn’t come naturally at all and I would prefer to walk at my natural speed and wait for someone, but out of politeness I do try to match whoever I am with. If they are really slow it’s quite unpleasant though.

ScribblingPixie · 07/08/2023 14:18

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 14:06

Also the children are keeping up with him because hes constantly rushing them and tells them off otherwise for 'being slow'. So theyre galloping along right behind him for a quiet life.

But then don't you intervene and say, 'For heaven's sake, stop rushing them, let's all slow down and enjoy this'? Or if you already do, what happens?

Loz2323 · 07/08/2023 14:15

My hubby used to be a fast walker, not so much now with his health issues, and what i used to do was slow down even more that i normally would and just amble along at my own pace and sod everyone else, lots of times he had to stand around waiting for me to catch up lol

supersop60 · 07/08/2023 14:13

NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown · 07/08/2023 11:30

I remember leaving hospital with our newborn and xh had the carseat and was striding ahead down the corridors completely leaving me behind - i'd had a section and just couldn't keep up. I burst out crying!

It's such a selfish mindset to be either so lacking in consideration and spatial awareness to not notice you left behind or to be so callous as to not care.

On a similar note, I was friends with 'mean girls' at school and we'd walk in a line of 3 or 4 but when there was a corner, other people or an obstacle it was ALWAYS me who had to give way and then trail behind the trying to catch back up. Being expected to give way riles me to this day - ie. a family of 4 taking up the whole pavement so me and my dc have to go in the road. Be spatially aware!

Stand your ground on the pavement. I would say loudly - single file children - and absolutely not step into the road.

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 14:06

Also the children are keeping up with him because hes constantly rushing them and tells them off otherwise for 'being slow'. So theyre galloping along right behind him for a quiet life.

OP posts:
Naunet · 07/08/2023 14:04

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 13:50

Because it's all about how the companion benefits them and nothing about just enjoying being with them and sharing their experience. Maybe that's how you see others and that's why you see nothing wrong with it. Or perhaps you've misread it?

I don't understand your second paragraph at all as it seems to support my argument not afishcalledbreanda's. Perhaps you're confused. Or as usual just being contrary.

I read it the same way, all about how it benefits them.

Itsnotrightbutitsok · 07/08/2023 14:03

but this time it meant missing a big moment with my kids.

Have you asked your kids to slow down?

You’ve tried telling your DH but nothing changes, so why not try telling your kids that you’re walking as fast as you can but you just can’t keep up.

It would annoy me if you were dawdling and I probably would walk on ahead as I hate walking too slow but it sounds like he’s not even stopping to wait for you to catch up which is the dickish move.

Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 14:03

To those whove embellished my post with their own version of events.

  1. I am not a 'dawdler' or a 'faffer' and i dont have 'mobility issues' - i regularly walk with many other people & this only occurs with DH.
  1. A person cant just "compromise and speed up" if theyre already walking at a pace where theyre almost breaking into a run. If youre walking at max pace and been left behind, there is no 'compromising' to be done. Please read what i posted not what you think i posted and know that your replies that im being 'selfish' by not keeping up - when there is no way of going even faster without sprinting everywhere - are in themselves rude.
  1. DH isnt doing this due to being physically 'unable' to lower his pace. Ive seen him adjust his behaviour for others.
  1. Nowhere did i mention being obsessed with capturing perfect social media moments. I wanted to experience this together as a family - we were on a family holiday. Not for anyone else.
  1. This upset me - if you dont care about sharing moments with others, good for you. That doesnt invalidate how it made me feel.

Thanks to those who actually got the point of my post.

OP posts:
WestwardHo1 · 07/08/2023 13:56

Backstreets · 07/08/2023 13:11

Good for you!
The road runners on this thread spectacularly miss the point - accommodating a slower walker is about respect and making sure nobody is left behind.

IME once you adapt your pave to the slow walker they get ever slower. It's like they want to be at the back.

Granted I am talking about one in particular.

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 13:50

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/08/2023 13:42

I don't see anything amiss with afishcalledbreanda's post? It's not transaction, it sounds mutually respectful and caring to me. Perhaps you've misread it?

Why would you go on holiday with others if not to spend time with them? Is it just to avoid a single supplement? Surely that would be a small price to pay if that were the case?

Because it's all about how the companion benefits them and nothing about just enjoying being with them and sharing their experience. Maybe that's how you see others and that's why you see nothing wrong with it. Or perhaps you've misread it?

I don't understand your second paragraph at all as it seems to support my argument not afishcalledbreanda's. Perhaps you're confused. Or as usual just being contrary.

JFDIYOLO · 07/08/2023 13:50

I went on a treasure hunt in a colleagues group. The two tall chaps had to rest because of aching backs caused by trying to walk at smaller people's pace. Walking slowly can be difficult for a zoomer.

My partner is a zoomer and will barrel across roads like a dog off the lead, while I hesitate and check for speed of oncoming cars. I'm convinced from many many things that he has ADHD.

Although we're about the same height, he's mostly constructed of legs, while I'm mostly constructed of bum.

My mother is elderly with arthritis and often has to remind me to slow down for her. I'm mortified, because I don't like feeling left behind, myself.

I'm an in betweener.

With your husband, try writing it down. Calmly, clearly, how it makes you feel when he doesn't consider his wife who can't quite go at his pace. Tell him you appreciate his enthusiasm and energy and would also appreciate if he'd bear in mind that you'd like to be walking together as a family. You'll try and pick up the pace, he'll try and moderate his, to meet you in the middle and set an example of consideration and compromise to the children.

VanGoghsDog · 07/08/2023 13:49

The OP doesn't "do speed walking". She says she is a "regular speed walker" in that she walks at a regular speed.

LindorDoubleChoc · 07/08/2023 13:49

My husband does this. He is 14 inches taller than me and can't seem to help it. My two dc are much taller than me also, so if we're all together I often trail behind. I just yell out "oi, slow down, wait for me".

I honestly can't believe you needed that many words to say "my husband walks ahead of me and it annoys me, what can I do?" Grin

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