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Keeps walking ahead & leaving me behind

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Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 01:21

How would you feel in this scenario? You organise a major family holiday overseas for DH plus 2 teens, highlight of which is a day trip to visit one of the wonders of the world. So a big deal in terms of something really special to enjoy together as a family - a once in a lifetime thing. When we park, DH walks so fast towards the attraction which is about a 5 min walk, that I cant possibly keep up with him as I cant walk at same pace (im a regular speed walker, he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people) and have to dodge others using the same path. Our teens are able to keep up with his pace and as theyre increasingly taking cues from his behaviour they zoom ahead at speed at DH's pace, meaning Im tagging along behind. Im about 60 seconds behind them & i can see theyve almost reached the spot where theyll see the landmark for the first time - an experience a family would naturally want to share right? I call out for them to wait - my DH turns, sees that im only moments behind them and carries on to the main lookout point and they take in their first view of it without me. I get there a minute later and i feel so upset that i wasnt able to witness their reaction to seeing this incredible landmark which was the highlight of our whole trip. I ask DH why he didnt wait for me and he says 'you were slower than us, youre here now so it doesnt matter', completely oblivious to why id be upset that wed missed this shared family moment. He has often walked way ahead of me - like at airports - which ive always found pretty inconsiderate and rude. He says he just wants to get there and its not his fault if i 'walk slowly' (which i dont, he just zooms everywhere). This has left me feeling really overlooked and disregarded - I had arranged the whole trip (somewhere he wanted to go) and what really hurts is not just that he didnt even consider that this is something we were all doing together - its not 'together' if you leave someone behind - but that his behaviour is encouraging the same lack of consideration in our kids, who were so focussed on keeping up with him virtually sprinting down the street that they didnt wait for me either (which is to be expected as he was driving the behaviour). He had seen the landmark twice before too. He genuinely feels i have no reason at all to be offended or upset by what happened. I feel ive been robbed of a special family moment. I know that walking ahead is often mentioned as a common narcissistic personality trait. He does show some other elements around control etc and im now thinking is this behaviour designed to emphasise his role as the 'in charge' person, who doesnt feel the need to compromise to show consideration for others? And that walking together in a group gives off some kind of air of equality that they cant deal with? AIBU for feeling really upset about this? Its left me in tears

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SusanSHelit · 08/08/2023 17:12

This is really unpleasant behaviour and symptomatic of a serious lack of respect in my experience.

I'm very short, 4ft10, so naturally I'm not the speediest, I just don't have the stride length. My ex is not exactly tall at 5ft6 but used to regularly march ahead of me, including on what were supposed to be lovely family days out with ds. Would often rush ahead of me when we were walking with ds in the pram when he was baby. I would have to constantly ask him to slow down a bit, or half jog to keep up with him and end up red faced and sweaty while he was cool as a breeze walking at his own pace.

My best friend has previously broken both ankles and sometimes if we've been walking for a while she needs to slow down a bit due to pain. I have never and will never race ahead of her when this happens, because it's phenomenally rude, and we're not exactly walking together if she's ten paces behind me.

My current bf is 6ft2 and naturally walks much faster than I do. We recently took ds for a day out to a museum and by the end of the day I had a bit of a sciatica flare up and was walking quite slowly. Bf slowed down, and very politely explained to ds that he should too because it's not nice to leave people behind and they should be mindful that sometimes not everyone can walk as fast as them. They both waited for me and let me set the pace.

The difference is my bf respects me and I respect my friend, and we all know that charging ahead and leaving behind the person you are supposed to be with is hurtful and rude. We don't have to be reminded to have some consideration for those we are with.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 08/08/2023 17:11

Interesting how many of these men are ex's,

OhamIreally · 08/08/2023 16:56

I've been astounded reading this thread at how the OP has been belittled and sneered at. She organised a trip to one of the world's wonders with her family and wanted to experience it with her family.

You have my every sympathy OP as my ex was similar, in fact I can probably complete the bingo card.

Walked ahead of me including on a very special holiday to the extent that I commented to a friend all I had seen was his back all week.

Rushed around in supermarkets so that I'd have to spend ages looking for him.

Went rushing off holding our newborn when I had had a c section.

Would continuously ask "are you ready? Are you ready? " Whilst doing nothing to prepare except get his own stuff ready.

Sit in the car outside whilst I finished getting myself, DD, food ready.

Would drive off as soon as I got in the car without waiting for me to even close the car door.

Would do the "next thing, next thing" exactly as described by PP. Could never live in the moment.

Would simply say "it doesn't matter" to things that clearly mattered to me like when he accidentally smashed a wedding gift from a friend.

In restaurants the second I put the last forkful of food in my mouth he would be up and ordering the bill.

AlexanderArnold · 08/08/2023 16:37

Totally get this. My H does the same and I have never felt that we are walking together. These days I just leave him to it - if he has marched way ahead he will loose me. Then has to retrace his steps back or wait or call. But I CBA pandering to it any more. Appreciate that won't have worked for you OP as you were headed to a particular destination. But just wanted to send solidarity because it is rubbish.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/08/2023 16:33

I sympathise DH and the DS are all considerably taller than me so I have to remind them to slow down. The difference is that they do slow down even if they tease me for being slow or short (I’m average height but they range from just under 6’ to 6’3)

It’s not about being a fast or slow walker, it’s about walking as a family. If we are visiting somewhere together then I expect them to match my pace. If we were hurrying back because the parking ticket on the car was about to expire I’d tell them to go ahead.

The OP had asked them to wait for her so they could walk as a family in a situation where there was no particular reason to hurry (the Grand Canyon, Acropolis, Pyramids of Giza aren’t going anywhere) and her DH totally disregarded her feelings.

Aworldofwonder · 08/08/2023 16:33

I can relate to this and I feel for you OP. My soon to be ex has behaved like this through our entire relationship, charging off ahead oftentimes leaving me unclear where to meet him. IME it's a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Depending on the age and maturity of your kids I would actually say to them you are disappointed they didn't wait for you when you called out.

DOBARDAN · 08/08/2023 16:26

I know full well how this feels OP, sorry to say, you may find other inconsiderate behaviours creeping in.

lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 16:23

RampantIvy · 08/08/2023 16:17

I have reread all of the OP's posts and all they say that it is one of the wonders of the world. I can't see where it says where she actually was.

Sorry!

I thought you meant something else! No I've no idea where she was!

RampantIvy · 08/08/2023 16:17

lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 15:34

No, she's posted several times on this thread including just 5 posts above yours!

I have reread all of the OP's posts and all they say that it is one of the wonders of the world. I can't see where it says where she actually was.

ScrambledSmegs · 08/08/2023 15:39

WildFlowerBees · 08/08/2023 11:34

Off topic but threads like these make me worry about the general public being part of our judicial system. Op laid out the facts yet so many others just made it about something different. Imagine a MN jury. Awful.

Having been on a jury, I'd say MN is accurately providing insight into how at least one of them functioned. I would be astounded if it was an isolated instance.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 08/08/2023 15:37

Where in the world the landmark was.
Well it wasn’t up a mountain.

lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 15:34

RampantIvy · 08/08/2023 15:30

Is anyone wondering where the OP went?

No, she's posted several times on this thread including just 5 posts above yours!

RampantIvy · 08/08/2023 15:30

Is anyone wondering where the OP went?

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 08/08/2023 15:00

I don’t think there’s much you can do about your husband.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 08/08/2023 14:59

You need to teach your boys @Gotthetshirt1 that ladies have social superiority. This means if their female companion says wait they must wait. It’s easier for men to be selfish. They can barge through the crowds throwing children behind them, but it makes the world a better place if they don’t.

Besttobe8001 · 08/08/2023 14:41

I had one of these OP and I divorced him.

Not only for this reason but I remember hot tears of frustration in the Lake District watching another couple walk up a hill companionably side by side while he raced off yet again with not a backwards look. So much for "spending the day together".

I felt subjugated constantly.

JunkIsland · 08/08/2023 14:40

Completely get why this wouldn’t enter other people’s heads, Natasha. You’ve posted a dozen times or more explaining why. I also gave an example upthread of how I’d marched my own mum around various tourist sites in the past because it suited me without it crossing my mind she might not be enjoying it.

But the op signalled she wanted her family to wait. It’s not about a mismatch in communication. It’s not about whether some people aren’t bothered about sharing certain experiences in the same way. It’s about whether or not it’s reasonable for her dp to adjust his behaviour out of consideration for her feelings. Even if he doesn’t fully ‘get’ it or it means he doesn’t get to do things precisely his way.

Gotthetshirt1 · 08/08/2023 14:27

The OP can feel as upset as she wants. This is AIBU- not "validate my feelings without question". If it was so important that they saw the whatever it is at the same time it might have helped if she had said so before they set out.

If anything I'd expect children of say 12 upwards to naturally steam on ahead

@NatashaDancing i dont know how i can spell it out to you more clearly. I even called out for them to please wait for me and DH hesrd me, turned and just sped on to the viewpoint.

It isnt normal to have to demand that others have a little consideration for you. It would never occur to me to leave someone behind and make them feel disregarded - on a regular walk from a to b nevermind something wed discussed together so much in advance and been excited to see together.

The kids steam ahead because DH chastises them for 'being slow' otherwise.

Empathy goes a long way, even if you reckon you wouldnt care less in a similar scenario.

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NatashaDancing · 08/08/2023 13:59

I "honestly don't get" why some posters can't understand that this "special family moment" wouldn't even enter the heads of others, let alone make it apparently spoil the whole event.

The OP can feel as upset as she wants. This is AIBU- not "validate my feelings without question". If it was so important that they saw the whatever it is at the same time it might have helped if she had said so before they set out.

If anything I'd expect children of say 12 upwards to naturally steam on ahead.

Gotthetshirt1 · 08/08/2023 12:57

Thank you @FictionalCharacter feels like quite a few posters have replied without reading what id posted and just making me out to be a needy lunatic. Or theyre similar to my DH in just not showing much empathy towards others.

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lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 12:32

Is it possible that it does hurt him to slow down? Is it not possible that he is speaking his truth? Does the fa that his truth is different than your experience serve to invalidate his feelings and truth?

Well it is possible, of course, but running when I should be walking is a very real problem for me.

I have also noticed that he doesn't complain that slow walking hurts when he is walking at a slower pace when we are out in a group.

So the 'pain' is clearly manageable in one scenario but not another, funny that.

Mari9999 · 08/08/2023 12:27

@lifeturnsonadime
Is it possible that it does hurt him to slow down? Is it not possible that he is speaking his truth? Does the fa that his truth is different than your experience serve to invalidate his feelings and truth?

I think that you crystallized the situation for me. The OP is rightly starting her feelings and truth, and no one can say that those are not her feelings and thoughts.

Pointing out her husband's possible feelings and thoughts in no way invalidates her feelings and thoughts. It is just a way of saying that there are many ways to view the scenario described in the posr.

PansyP · 08/08/2023 12:08

The issue here isnt his fast walking, its that youve told him it bothers you and its well within his power to do something about it, at almost zero personal cost, and he wont do it. He's a selfish prick.

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 08/08/2023 12:04

Unfortunately a basic grasp of comprehension isn't a prerequisite for posting on a thread. I wish it was.

I understand you OP and your feelings are absolutely valid.

FictionalCharacter · 08/08/2023 12:03

WildFlowerBees · 08/08/2023 11:34

Off topic but threads like these make me worry about the general public being part of our judicial system. Op laid out the facts yet so many others just made it about something different. Imagine a MN jury. Awful.

Absolutely. There’s been a whole load of posts about how it’s her fault for being slow. She explained clearly, early on, that she’s far from being slow. And that this man is one of those who go tearing ahead, barging other people out of the way. Not a normal fast walker. And that he’s thoughtless and disrespectful in other ways. But no, we’ve had post after post about how frustrating it is to be with someone who dawdles and how she is being ridiculous for wanting to walk as a group.

The AIBU topic is very problematic because there’s a contingent of users who love to be vicious in the replies, and others who like to derail the thread and have fights with each other. People post here in good faith and end up completely demoralised.

@Gotthetshirt1 I’m sorry you’ve been treated like this.