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Keeps walking ahead & leaving me behind

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Gotthetshirt1 · 07/08/2023 01:21

How would you feel in this scenario? You organise a major family holiday overseas for DH plus 2 teens, highlight of which is a day trip to visit one of the wonders of the world. So a big deal in terms of something really special to enjoy together as a family - a once in a lifetime thing. When we park, DH walks so fast towards the attraction which is about a 5 min walk, that I cant possibly keep up with him as I cant walk at same pace (im a regular speed walker, he insists on getting everywhere ultra fast to the point he will barge his way through people) and have to dodge others using the same path. Our teens are able to keep up with his pace and as theyre increasingly taking cues from his behaviour they zoom ahead at speed at DH's pace, meaning Im tagging along behind. Im about 60 seconds behind them & i can see theyve almost reached the spot where theyll see the landmark for the first time - an experience a family would naturally want to share right? I call out for them to wait - my DH turns, sees that im only moments behind them and carries on to the main lookout point and they take in their first view of it without me. I get there a minute later and i feel so upset that i wasnt able to witness their reaction to seeing this incredible landmark which was the highlight of our whole trip. I ask DH why he didnt wait for me and he says 'you were slower than us, youre here now so it doesnt matter', completely oblivious to why id be upset that wed missed this shared family moment. He has often walked way ahead of me - like at airports - which ive always found pretty inconsiderate and rude. He says he just wants to get there and its not his fault if i 'walk slowly' (which i dont, he just zooms everywhere). This has left me feeling really overlooked and disregarded - I had arranged the whole trip (somewhere he wanted to go) and what really hurts is not just that he didnt even consider that this is something we were all doing together - its not 'together' if you leave someone behind - but that his behaviour is encouraging the same lack of consideration in our kids, who were so focussed on keeping up with him virtually sprinting down the street that they didnt wait for me either (which is to be expected as he was driving the behaviour). He had seen the landmark twice before too. He genuinely feels i have no reason at all to be offended or upset by what happened. I feel ive been robbed of a special family moment. I know that walking ahead is often mentioned as a common narcissistic personality trait. He does show some other elements around control etc and im now thinking is this behaviour designed to emphasise his role as the 'in charge' person, who doesnt feel the need to compromise to show consideration for others? And that walking together in a group gives off some kind of air of equality that they cant deal with? AIBU for feeling really upset about this? Its left me in tears

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/08/2023 10:13

I’m not personally a faffer, but your friend sounds like she has anxiety issues.

Funnily enough when I’ve gone places with friends , or with other family groups, I’ve realised I’m naturally quite speedy, it’s just exh was really really extra keen to forge ahead - he didn’t really do it til we had children so I think alot of it was deliberate to avoid child wrangling.

DuckyShincracker · 07/08/2023 10:13

My ex did this to me all the time it was because he held me in utter contempt I do hope you situation is not the same.

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 10:12

afishcalledbreanda · 07/08/2023 10:10

This is not about you, this is about how the OP FEELS. Are you always this emotionally immature?

Well, yes, it's all about OP and her feelings and plans, which seem to be all that matters. Quite interesting that her DC choose to run a alongside their dad, though, rather than hang back with mum.

I have a friend who's a terrible faffer: gets out of the car, checks handbag for everything that might possibly be needed, puts water bottle and snacks in a backpack just in case, puts backpack on, checks for car keys, can't find them, takes backpack off in case she's put them in there, then decides she needs an umbrella or an extra handy-pack of tissues from the glove compartment. Then can't find her sunglasses and wants to consult me on whether she will or won't need a sunhat... I have been known to set off at a brisk pace with a 'See you there' just to avoid the faff.

You're just making a load of stuff up. You have no idea if the OP is a faffer. It's not that surprising that the DC tend to follow the DH. People often appease narcissists, which is why they often get away with it.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/08/2023 10:11

afishcalledbreanda · 07/08/2023 10:10

This is not about you, this is about how the OP FEELS. Are you always this emotionally immature?

Well, yes, it's all about OP and her feelings and plans, which seem to be all that matters. Quite interesting that her DC choose to run a alongside their dad, though, rather than hang back with mum.

I have a friend who's a terrible faffer: gets out of the car, checks handbag for everything that might possibly be needed, puts water bottle and snacks in a backpack just in case, puts backpack on, checks for car keys, can't find them, takes backpack off in case she's put them in there, then decides she needs an umbrella or an extra handy-pack of tissues from the glove compartment. Then can't find her sunglasses and wants to consult me on whether she will or won't need a sunhat... I have been known to set off at a brisk pace with a 'See you there' just to avoid the faff.

Well that’s very rude!

ShiteRider · 07/08/2023 10:10

This is an eye opener for me, I’m a fast walker and DH dawdles and smokes. I’m forever turning around and realising he’s not there. I will turn round and wait for him when I realise but it’s so frustrating, I feel like I’m walking on the spot when we walk together. It’s less of an issue when we’re just out for a walk but when we’re going somewhere I can’t understand why he doesn’t just speed up a bit. I didn’t realise that made me narcissistic or psychopathic or whatever it was.

If he had physical restrictions that’s different, I can slow down for elderly relatives etc and just accept that we’re not going anywhere at a normal pace (still frustrating, it’s like my brain is 15 steps ahead all the time) but man alive how he ever gets anywhere is a mystery to me!

Greenberg2 · 07/08/2023 10:10

NatashaDancing · 07/08/2023 09:35

That's a different scenario tho'. Walking around a city looking at shops, buildings etc and having a conversation together is clearly important in that situation.

I can't think of any high landmarks in Prague but for example I wouldn't have expected my husband to go at my pace climbing the leaning Tower of Pisa.

No it isn't different at all. It's just that you would want to take time looking at shops, buildings etc. And you're not bothered about seeing landmarks.

I couldn't bear spending all my time in a beautiful city looking at shops. But if I was with my partner or a close friend I'd compromise. Something you seem unable to do because you can only see things from your perspective.

Just like the OP's husband, which is probably why you can't see anything wrong with him.

determinedtomakethiswork · 07/08/2023 10:10

The OP has already said she's a speed walker, so she is not walking slowly. People are talking about her as though she is dawdling.

afishcalledbreanda · 07/08/2023 10:10

This is not about you, this is about how the OP FEELS. Are you always this emotionally immature?

Well, yes, it's all about OP and her feelings and plans, which seem to be all that matters. Quite interesting that her DC choose to run a alongside their dad, though, rather than hang back with mum.

I have a friend who's a terrible faffer: gets out of the car, checks handbag for everything that might possibly be needed, puts water bottle and snacks in a backpack just in case, puts backpack on, checks for car keys, can't find them, takes backpack off in case she's put them in there, then decides she needs an umbrella or an extra handy-pack of tissues from the glove compartment. Then can't find her sunglasses and wants to consult me on whether she will or won't need a sunhat... I have been known to set off at a brisk pace with a 'See you there' just to avoid the faff.

lastminutewednesday · 07/08/2023 10:06

Both my ex and my current h do this. The difference is that exh wouldn't stop doing it when I asked, current dh always stops, apologies and slows down a bit.
I used to hate it!

mosiacmaker · 07/08/2023 10:06

have you tried saying to him “I know that you don’t mean to be disrespectful and that your walking ahead is just innocent to you, however it makes me feel really rejected and sad and it makes me feel like we aren’t a romantic happy couple, are you able to change your behaviour for me when we are doing special things, even if you don’t really understand it?”

If you bundle up behaviour change with them accepting your perception of their intent and motive then people get very defensive.

Two things can be true, he can be oblivious and unable to understand how walking ahead makes you feel a certain way, because in his head he has no malicious intent and so doesn’t understand how you’re projecting so much onto the walking ahead.

It can also be true that it makes you feel left out, that it reminds you of feeling like you’ve lost the romance and that he’s inconsiderate etc.

If your objective is to get the behaviour to change, then going in all guns blazing that his waking ahead definitively means he is an asshole with no consideration for you, then obviously his reaction is going to be “I’m not an asshole and walking ahead doesn’t mean that at all! Chill out!”

Easier to say, hey I acknowledge that you’re probably coming from a completely different place here and I know you’d never intentionally hurt me, but it makes me feel XYZ when you do that. Do you think you could meet me halfway and hold my hand and walk with me when we are doing special activities? You can walk ahead when we are on bog standard walks as I know you like to walk fast and get that too.”

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 07/08/2023 10:03

All those people saying they, or their poor tall husbands, simply can't slow down because its painfull or their long legs won't let them - bollocks.

My normal pace is a little faster than average, at 3.5 to 4 mph. When my mum got arthritis and needed a stick, her pace was about 2.5mph. We still walked together. When my dad got Parkinsons and needed to use a walking frame his pace was glacial. It could take several minutes to get from his room to the dining room 30m away. That was frustrating - but even that wasn't physically painful or impossible to match- amd I didn't abandon him half way down the corridor.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/08/2023 10:03

My exh used to do this.

It was especially unnerving when we had young children, as he’d zoom off leaving me with a little toddling child, to coax them along etc

And when we had one in a buggy he’d often zoom off ahead with the buggy which might have all my things on it in a bag - I did learn not to put everything on the buggy but that was quite annoying as it meant unnecessary carrying. So I’d be struggling along with walking (but still pretty young) child and the blooming bag, whilst he zoomed ahead with the buggy.

Pixiedust1234 · 07/08/2023 10:01

My DH does this but it's my fault for not keeping up. But I would have to run to keep up which isn't sustainable. Funny how my two DD who are fast walkers manage to walk at my pace. And yes, he did put the DC in danger at roads because he didn't check where they where Angry

My DF used to do this on family outings as as a pp mentioned dad at front, mum way behind (usually with picnic bags and blanket) and us four kids galloping in between. It's only recently that I've realised he did it on purpose because he was angry with her and it was how he punished her, the little disrespectful things that are difficult to call out. I've also realised I've married my abusive father despite my attempts not to.

OP, what else does he do that you find hurtful but he dismisses it as a you problem?

myNewName21 · 07/08/2023 10:00

billy1966 · 07/08/2023 09:40

Not normal at all.

What an arse.

He is no gentleman and his children are modeling this behaviour.

I am travelling with my husband and two daughters and I would sit down with all tickets and money and would not co operate at all in your place.

Of course my husband being a lovely man wouldn't dream of doing this.
He takes the greatest of care with me and our daughters, modeling a good caring person.

Your husband is clearly an unpleasant man and no way would I be organising a holiday again.

These behaviours are NEVER in isolation.

Join the dots and get some counselling for yourself.

Dry your tears and start minding yourself.

There is NOTHING more miserable than gowing older with a selfish unfeeling prick.

Wishing you well.

I am travelling with my husband and two daughters and I would sit down with all tickets and money and would not co operate at all in your place.

my Exmil would do shitty childish things like this to get her own way irrespective of what other people in the party would think, she would pout like a baby if she didn’t get her own way

Lachimolala · 07/08/2023 10:00

Curtainswithpompoms · 07/08/2023 09:52

There are 3 types of ADHD which I’m sure you know, having it yourself. You are probably not in the hyperactive category!

You actually don’t always fall into just one category, I know which ones I’m in thanks!

Point is OP your husbands being cruel and rude, neither of which are typical ADHD traits. Neurodivergence doesn’t automatically equal being a shitty person.

NewbieSM · 07/08/2023 09:56

@Puffalicious well yes I used my personal experience to offer a differing opinion as have other posters, you don't have to agree.

*And I'd hate to be in a relationship with someone this self absorbed
*
That's ok love, don't think you'd be able to keep up with me any way Grin

Curtainswithpompoms · 07/08/2023 09:52

Lachimolala · 07/08/2023 09:45

I have ADHD and I plod along like a geriatric donkey 😂

There are 3 types of ADHD which I’m sure you know, having it yourself. You are probably not in the hyperactive category!

cocoloco117 · 07/08/2023 09:49

Naunet · 07/08/2023 08:33

So if you took your elderly mother to somewhere like Niagara Falls, and you’d seen the falls before and she hadn’t, you’d have no thoughts about wanting to share the experience with her, but instead see nothing wrong with storming off ahead of her? And if she told you that she wanted you to stay with her so you could see them together, you’d be annoyed?
I highly doubt it.

I wouldn’t doubt it, going by some of the weirdos posting on here.

Xrays · 07/08/2023 09:48

titchy · 07/08/2023 09:42

But why should the pace be set by the person who walks like a snail?

Because that person is the one who organised it, thought about a once in a lifetime experience, carried the entire mental load. Because that person is your mum and your wife and you appreciate what she does and want to share something with her.

Just a thought.

Exactly.

People are so bloody selfish.

Lachimolala · 07/08/2023 09:45

Curtainswithpompoms · 07/08/2023 05:25

My dad is like this and my sister.
Now I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD, I can see that my dad probably has it too.
He cannot help but walk miles in front. I remember his previous partner being furious about it. My DH used to (affectionately I hope!) refer to me as Turbo.
When you have ADHD you feel as though you are being powered by a motor and it’s quite beyond your control.
Does your DH seem in a rush in everything his does? Does he get easily overwhelmed by his feelings of impatience?

He could listen to you and try to rail against his natural state (if he does have ADHD) to show you respect but if it is ADHD he will struggle with this.

I have ADHD and I plod along like a geriatric donkey 😂

titchy · 07/08/2023 09:42

But why should the pace be set by the person who walks like a snail?

Because that person is the one who organised it, thought about a once in a lifetime experience, carried the entire mental load. Because that person is your mum and your wife and you appreciate what she does and want to share something with her.

Just a thought.

Inkpotlover · 07/08/2023 09:41

Were you at the Grand Canyon by any chance? If so, you are absolutely right to be upset. The first view is breathtaking and I can completely understand why you wanted to see your DCs' responses.

Your 'D'H, meanwhile, is breathtakingly arrogant. It's rude to walk ahead like you're some little woman who needs to stay ten paces behind at all time, but it's even ruder to disparage you being upset for it. Is this a well-worn pattern of behaviour for him?

billy1966 · 07/08/2023 09:40

Not normal at all.

What an arse.

He is no gentleman and his children are modeling this behaviour.

I am travelling with my husband and two daughters and I would sit down with all tickets and money and would not co operate at all in your place.

Of course my husband being a lovely man wouldn't dream of doing this.
He takes the greatest of care with me and our daughters, modeling a good caring person.

Your husband is clearly an unpleasant man and no way would I be organising a holiday again.

These behaviours are NEVER in isolation.

Join the dots and get some counselling for yourself.

Dry your tears and start minding yourself.

There is NOTHING more miserable than gowing older with a selfish unfeeling prick.

Wishing you well.

NatashaDancing · 07/08/2023 09:39

Puffalicious · 07/08/2023 09:32

So blind. It's all me, me, me in this post.

This is not about you, this is about how the OP FEELS. Are you always this emotionally immature?

And I'd hate to be in a relationship with someone this self absorbed.

It's only about how the OP feels, with no alternative views if you're intent on validating her feelings 100% .

And I'd hate to be in a relationship with someone this self absorbed

And I'd hate to be in a relationship with someone who seems so obsessed about creating perfect family moments.

Naunet · 07/08/2023 09:38

Hbh17 · 07/08/2023 09:31

I have spent the entirety of my very long marriage walking 3 paces behind my husband. Even tho I walk quickly, he has long legs and just really struggles to moderate his pace. I never even thought about it until a friend commented. I just think it's mildly hilarious and not something to worry about.

He doesn’t have a problem moderating his pace though if he’s always 3 steps in front, he’s walking the same pace as you, just feels he should be ahead of you as he thinks he’s more important.