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Help me do this pl - splitting holiday villa costs

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captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 07:25

Morning. Planning a landmark event celebration next year in pool villa in a very sought after destination spot.

Bedroom 1 - DH & I
Bedroom 2 - Best Friend and her DH
Bedroom 3 - Friend's teenaged kids (2)
Bedroom 4 - Friend's BIL & his DP
Bedroom 5 - Friend's BIL's adult child

Villa rental is 3000$ / week. Friend has suggested that each family pays 1000$.

I feel grumpy that the split is a threeway when my DH and I will use only one bedroom. But DH says not to make a fuss as it is a long awaited celebratory holiday and by being tight we will cast a shadow over the happy planning stage (we are not rich AT ALL but a bit more financially secure than my friend's or her BIL's family)

AIBU in thinking that I should be paying less for the villa rental.

OP posts:
Therealjudgejudy · 06/08/2023 09:37

Id stick with the Villa, but make sure to say that meals out, shopping should be split fairly.

Otherwise you will be subsidising them all week

Twyford · 06/08/2023 09:35

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:08

Thanks for everyone who answered, I could not reply each one of you but this is all such good advice. As we are still in the discussion stage, I am going to private message my friend this:

"dear friend, villa rental seems complicated, to split per family. It will become a head banger if every meal we need to bring out the calculator and keep doing the math. Shall we look for a half board hotel as Option B? So many things will get easier. We can request interconnecting rooms for the kids and hotels usually have shuttles, more entertainment options. what do you think?"

Going to see how she replies. If she says okay but can we find a good hotel in our budget, then I will help her to plan with that budget and if its a great hotel i don't mind subsidising it a bit

If she says no we prefer villa, then I will tell her what a few others have advised - ask her as non confrontationally as possible what is going to be the food and bills for the week, are they going to be split three ways too.

If you haven't already sent that, don't. Suggesting that division by three is complicated just makes you sound a bit bonkers plus, as people have said, going to a hotel will be much more expensive - and it sounds as if the villa she's found is lovely. I think it's better so say that the three way split isn't really fair and suggest a fairer split that recognises that the children's rooms are inferior to the others.

user1492757084 · 06/08/2023 09:33

Do you all get our own bathroom?
If you are all paying the 1000, you should have your own bathroom if that is possible.

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:30

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 07:46

the adults rooms all have en suite
the kids rooms don't, they have to use the common bathroom in the living space

Sorry I had missed this and kept asking when you'd already answered Blush

How about $500 per double room with ensuite, $300 per room without ensuite, plus another $100 per person?

Bedroom 1 - DH & I $700
Bedroom 2 - Best Friend and her DH $700
Bedroom 3 - Friend's teenaged kids (2) $500
Bedroom 4 - Friend's BIL & his DP $700
Bedroom 5 - Friend's BIL's adult child $400

SummerWhisper · 06/08/2023 09:29

As there will be 5 rooms, the fairest split is by fifths, so:

£600 OP and DH
£1200 Friend, her DH and 2 kids
£1200 BIL, his partner and their child

Bills could also be split by fifths as this is proportionate. If you want to alleviate a small amount of the cost, you could treat everybody to an activity or pay the whole bill for one meal. If friend is a true friend, she will be on board with this.

MerryMarigold · 06/08/2023 09:28

Glad you messaged but considering someone put the effort into finding a really nice villa, not sure they will go for a hotel. It will be thousands more as you'll need to eat out all the time too.

I think you should have just said, how about adults count for 1 and kids for half? And sent revised costs.

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:26

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:18

Do any of the rooms have en suite bathrooms while the others would be shared bathrooms? That would be a factor.

All rooms being equal (which I doubt they are) I would split half the cost by room and half by person. So $166 per person plus $300 per room. That means the couples pay $632, the family of 4 (with 2 teenagers) pays $1264, and the adult child pays $466 - although their parents might choose to subsidise them.

3 double bedrooms with en suite, balconies and scenic view. All in the first floor.

one bedroom with bunk beds. Not ensuite. No balcony, but window opens to the cobbled pathway below.

One bedroom with a single bed. Not ensuite. No balcony, small window with a view of inner courtyard.

The teens and the adult child have a (spacious) common bathroom in the ground floor, that they will share.

OP posts:
Poppyblush · 06/08/2023 09:25

I could suck to the accommodation but would not be prepared to split food and other stuff 3 ways.

MaggieFS · 06/08/2023 09:24

I would say "happy to pay 1/3 for the villa cost but just want to check we won't be splitting all other costs in three given there's only two of us?".

TimeIhadaNameChange · 06/08/2023 09:24

I'm waiting for her to reply "No need for a calculator, dividing by 3 is easy enough 😄😙"

Glad you've messaged her before things got out of hand.

Quitelikeacatslife · 06/08/2023 09:23

As the adults will get the nicer rooms I'd go with 3 way split. However this could be great springboard to say, "even though there is just 2 of us we are happy to pay 1/3 of villa, but can all other costs once we are there be per person?" You can do a kitty or pre load a credit card based on per person input . Teenagers eat and drink a lot , as much if not more than adults.

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:23

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:20

There are no master suites, if that helps? There are three lovely en suite double rooms, all with balconies with a view.

What are the other two rooms, then? Doubles without ensuite?

CherryMaDeara · 06/08/2023 09:23

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:08

Thanks for everyone who answered, I could not reply each one of you but this is all such good advice. As we are still in the discussion stage, I am going to private message my friend this:

"dear friend, villa rental seems complicated, to split per family. It will become a head banger if every meal we need to bring out the calculator and keep doing the math. Shall we look for a half board hotel as Option B? So many things will get easier. We can request interconnecting rooms for the kids and hotels usually have shuttles, more entertainment options. what do you think?"

Going to see how she replies. If she says okay but can we find a good hotel in our budget, then I will help her to plan with that budget and if its a great hotel i don't mind subsidising it a bit

If she says no we prefer villa, then I will tell her what a few others have advised - ask her as non confrontationally as possible what is going to be the food and bills for the week, are they going to be split three ways too.

Agree, half board is a much better option. No resentment as everyone has prepaid for their families.

Please let us know her response!

MerryMarigold · 06/08/2023 09:21

I think it's unfair. I'd probably suck it up but if you don't say anything, I'd worry that everything will be split 3 ways.

I think you should make generous offer so that they pay a bit more, just so they know that it's not going to be a constant threeway divide. I also think you're going to resent every payment on holiday if you don't say something. If you know them all really well, just say you think it's a bit unfair to split three ways. Children, let alone teenage/ adult children, with their own rooms are NEVER free on any holiday. I have 3, I should know! Even when we dump one, holidays become massively cheaper.

MichelleScarn · 06/08/2023 09:21

Your last post @captainmarvella sounds good, hopefully they'll see the sensibility of this.
As an aside, I often notice from threads here that the ones so keen to split bills whether for restaurant or holidays are the ones looking to be subsided!

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:20

Popcorn640 · 06/08/2023 09:17

I haven't read the full thread yet so this might have already been said, but OP I am shocked that you are hoping for the master suite when you are neither the person celebrating a big life event, or the person doing the organising! This is swayed me massively from thinking it's a difficult situation, to you are tight and cheeky.

I think the suggestions of a split more like £750, £1125, £1125 is fairer than splitting evenly per bedroom or splitting three ways - but you can absolutely not go on this holiday expecting pick of the best!!!!

There are no master suites, if that helps? There are three lovely en suite double rooms, all with balconies with a view.

OP posts:
CherryMaDeara · 06/08/2023 09:20

Seasideanticscanleadtosandybuckets · 06/08/2023 09:18

Surely you pay for you and dh can subsidise whoever he wants to? He can use his personal funds for that. He wants to appear minted then let him. You don't want to be a mug. That's also fab! Or she isn't your friend if she let's you pay for her family..

Why should DH be allowed to set precedents for OP’s interactions with her friend?

Seasideanticscanleadtosandybuckets · 06/08/2023 09:18

Surely you pay for you and dh can subsidise whoever he wants to? He can use his personal funds for that. He wants to appear minted then let him. You don't want to be a mug. That's also fab! Or she isn't your friend if she let's you pay for her family..

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:18

Do any of the rooms have en suite bathrooms while the others would be shared bathrooms? That would be a factor.

All rooms being equal (which I doubt they are) I would split half the cost by room and half by person. So $166 per person plus $300 per room. That means the couples pay $632, the family of 4 (with 2 teenagers) pays $1264, and the adult child pays $466 - although their parents might choose to subsidise them.

Popcorn640 · 06/08/2023 09:17

I haven't read the full thread yet so this might have already been said, but OP I am shocked that you are hoping for the master suite when you are neither the person celebrating a big life event, or the person doing the organising! This is swayed me massively from thinking it's a difficult situation, to you are tight and cheeky.

I think the suggestions of a split more like £750, £1125, £1125 is fairer than splitting evenly per bedroom or splitting three ways - but you can absolutely not go on this holiday expecting pick of the best!!!!

foolishone · 06/08/2023 09:10

Whether you suck it up on the villa or not, you need to mention other costs now before they start planning.

I would talk to your friend and just agree costs for everyone to make sure it's fair. Otherwise you're going to be worried about it for the next year and getting more and more worked up.

Inca22 · 06/08/2023 09:10

I think you split by number of bedrooms. Children/non earning guests are the responsibility of the parents. I'm a parent btw and this is how we do it!

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:08

Kisskiss · 06/08/2023 08:51

You should definitely counter suggest, and asap. Just because your friend suggested first doesn’t make her answer the final one!

someone up post suggested adults count as 1 and kids as half. Which makes loads of sense!

So split 3k by 7.5 and each share is 400. You pay for 2 shares ( 800), your friend for 3 ( 1200) , the last family pay for 2.5 shares (1000)
numbers are round and fair.

she is being a cf tbh and it’s better to nip it in the bud now or u risk paying 1/3 of all food costs during the holiday too. find it weird when people are quick to suggest things that skew in their favour, I would honestly be too embarassed

Thanks for everyone who answered, I could not reply each one of you but this is all such good advice. As we are still in the discussion stage, I am going to private message my friend this:

"dear friend, villa rental seems complicated, to split per family. It will become a head banger if every meal we need to bring out the calculator and keep doing the math. Shall we look for a half board hotel as Option B? So many things will get easier. We can request interconnecting rooms for the kids and hotels usually have shuttles, more entertainment options. what do you think?"

Going to see how she replies. If she says okay but can we find a good hotel in our budget, then I will help her to plan with that budget and if its a great hotel i don't mind subsidising it a bit

If she says no we prefer villa, then I will tell her what a few others have advised - ask her as non confrontationally as possible what is going to be the food and bills for the week, are they going to be split three ways too.

OP posts:
Thatsshallot1967 · 06/08/2023 09:00

Four ways:

Split 1:
Bedroom 1 - DH & I

Split 2:
Bedroom 2 - Best Friend and her DH
Bedroom 3 - Friend's teenaged kids (2)

Split 3:
Bedroom 4 - Friend's BIL & his DP

Split 4:
Bedroom 5 - Friend's BIL's adult child (an adult - should pay)

*Split 2 is being mildly generous to the family with the kids but I think fair.

That's how I'd want it if it were me..

EnjoyingTheSilence · 06/08/2023 08:58

I’d split the cost of the villa 3 ways but ensure that the food is split more evenly

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