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Trying100 · 02/08/2023 14:56

Hi all,

AIBU? I am really struggling with being a stepparent, but am doing the best I can. I have no children of my own, no siblings or close young family, my friends have only just started having children in the last few months. I am engaged to my partner who has a young daughter and I am trying my best.

  • I have booked and paid for a holiday so she can join us
  • I have deposited money into her savings
  • I treat her with respect when she is at our house
  • She is involved in our upcoming wedding
  • She has her own space in our house
  • My family includes SD where possible e.g. Easter egg hunt etc

We argue about the following things and I need help or advice AIBU?

I don't love my stepdaughter yet and keep being told that I should which makes me resentful and even less keen to form a bond.

I don't cancel all my plans every time she comes over at the weekend to do 'family' activities. I work a lot and use my free time as I want too with friends, getting my nails done, walking the dogs etc. Sometimes we plan and go on days out or play board games but sometimes I am doing other things.

I have asked SD to stop walking in our bedroom without knocking.

I am told I should take on parental and financial responsibility when we get married yet I get no say in what happens at our house. If I even put vegetables on SD's plate I am in the wrong.

I can't tidy up after SD or get accused of trying to tidy her away.

We earn significantly more than SD's mum and I have been told if my partner wants his daughter to go to private school then we will pay for it. I feel that her mother should be contributing fairly towards this and it shouldn't all fall on us.

My ex's family went away with their daughter, grandkids etc and took my partners ex away with them. It made me feel uncomfortable but I said nothing. Then later my new MIL to be stated she wasn't coming to the entirety of my hen do, given the former this made me really upset.

I recently made wedding thank you cards as our wedding isn't just one day so thought we could give them out at the time save posting etc after, and did not include my SD in them, they are signed from me & partner and has a sketch of us on the front with the dogs.

I still want to go on holidays and trips sometimes without SD.

I am wary about having my own children because of my experience thus far but I don't have any neutral parties to talk to who have step parent experience so would welcome advice. I also know if we have our own kids my parents will spoil them rotten and I don't want them to feel they have to walk on eggshells.

TIA

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HerAvatar · 02/08/2023 15:37

Just remember while you will be told lots that you knew he had a child, he also knew you didn’t. There’s responsibility in that too

100% this, I wish someone had told me this at the beginning, please take note OP!

Testina · 02/08/2023 15:36

If you marry someone who wants to pay for their child to go to a private school (either in full or shared with their other parent) then it’s going to impact your household finances as a whole, there’s no way round that. Even if your husband earns a fuckton and you don’t work, it still impacts the total household.

But why on earth are you contributing to a child’s savings now?

I have two great adult stepchildren. I’m the higher earner and their mother is dead - so it was me really that paid their support at uni. Meaning, it came from their dad but he could only afford it because I told him not to make any contribution to our household outgoings.

So I’m right behind “taking on” stepchildren. But the fuck would I be saving money for them!

I’m really interested to know who earns what between you and your boyfriend.

The only thing here that I agree with, is the minute you put your dogs on a thank you card, it looks like a snub to leave his child off. Leave the twee dog nonsense off, unless the dogs paid or hosted?

Marwoodsbigbreak · 02/08/2023 15:36

You gave him £20k? And he still has £60k debt? And he’s talking about private school?

You have the house deposit. You are paying all the deposits for the wedding?

Mate, he saw you coming! Are you quite mad?

Please don’t saddle yourself with this bloke, it will destroy you. How could you afford your own DC? Run, don’t walk away from all this. Plenty more blokes available out there.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 02/08/2023 15:35

Ps the mum would only be unreasonable if she was demanding that the girl went to private school but refused to pay. If she isn't bothered then it's purely on your finance

billy1966 · 02/08/2023 15:35

Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:29

Re finances now we both earn a good salary. We put a set amount into a joint account each month for bills, this is based on a % of income rather than a set amount or 50/50 so he does contribute a little more than me. We then put £300 into savings and then the rest is ours to do as we please. I gave him 20k not long ago to help pay off some of his debt so we could buy a house and he is paying off the rest (about 80k in total left from previous relationship, she declared bankruptcy so he is paying it all back, accrued from both of them, it was a while ago now). I have 50k for a house deposit. I have paid for all of the wedding deposits and he is paying for all of the final balances (which will work out to be more than I have paid) which we agreed was fair as he earns more than I do.

Mother of God, he saw you coming.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 02/08/2023 15:35

There are so many red flags here.

No one can tell you how you 'should' feel towards someone else. As long as you're kind and inclusive caring that's all that anyone can ask.

My main concern is that your fiance wants you to make practical and financial sacrifices for his daughter, without you having any input into parenting or major financial decisions which will affect your lifestyle.

For example he wants her to go private for school and I assume you have no say in choosing schools and exploring state options etc. But he expects a financial contribution.

He doesn't want you to be involved in any decisions that a day to day parent would make even though he wants you to love her like a parent would.

Ita completely normal for parents to still want to spend some time on their own e.g go away for a weekend. It's completely normal for parents to want their kids to knock before coming into their bedroom. But he is gaslighting you into thinking you shouldn't a. Have a say about these things even though it's your home and your life and b. A loving parent wouldn't make these decisions

I don't say this lightly but please don't marry him. You can't have a husband who takes from you but doesn't give, and who makes huge decisions that will affect you without your input. It will never work

Odellio · 02/08/2023 15:34

NOTHING you have done or asked for is unreasonable. You are being a saint and going beyond your SD.

I wouldn’t let stepkids deter you from starting your own family. In my case, having my own child has made my step parenting experience easier, no guarantees of this though. However, I WOULD let the weird controlling behaviours of your future DH deter you from marrying or having children with him.

Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:34

Private school was bought up in discussion about if we had children would we send them to private school or not etc. I said if we could afford it and it was a good school and right decision for us then great, if not then we wouldn't. I expressed that I was concerned that any children we would have will have a very different life than SD's because of the big gap in lifestyles, e.g. living conditions, food, trips, schools etc at which point he said that if we had children and wanted them to go to private school then SD would go too. Which if her mother contributes towards I have no issue with, its only if she doesn't and we pay 100% that it concerns me.

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jeaux90 · 02/08/2023 15:34

Can I ask why you are getting married OP?

If you are both financially independent and don't have kids together it doesn't t make sense to me.

billy1966 · 02/08/2023 15:34

OP,

You must be out of your mind to consider marrying this controlling man.

You will bitterly regret doing so and will quickly realise that your salary was a huge part of your appeal.

He has his own agenda and it certainly isn't your happiness.

If you were my daughter I would want to shake you for your spectacularly naivety that would allow you to accept this bossy controlling man near your or your money.

HIS child is not entitled to one penny of your salary, much less a private education.

You are being taken for a mug, a fool, a cashcow.

Marry him and you will bitterly regret it.

He most certainly is not a man to have children with.

The minute you marry him, your life won't be your own.

Everything will be about satisfying HIS expectations of you.

Pack your bags and run, while you can.

Hayliebells · 02/08/2023 15:33

Shit. You've given him £20k to pay towards HIS debts, and paid the wedding deposits, and despite earning more he hasn't paid anything towards the wedding costs yet? Don't marry him. Don't give him anymore money, stop paying into the joint accounts. Can you withdraw the money that is in the joint accounts now? Call it payback for the £20k.

Mumof4plusbonus · 02/08/2023 15:32

Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:25

He could afford to pay for private school fees out of just his salary. I suppose then it would mean as a couple we would have very little left to save or use for other things. It would just be my disposable income.

Then he can’t afford it. How can he then afford to send more children when you have them?
If he chooses to go ahead regardless then do not spend your disposable income on him. You are signing yourself up to solo holidays as he will not be able to afford them. It doesn’t sound like he wants holidays without his daughter anyway.
Just remember while you will be told lots that you knew he had a child, he also knew you didn’t. There’s responsibility in that too. Don’t marry this man until/unless yous can resolve this stuff.

HerAvatar · 02/08/2023 15:31

I'm 20+ years into my step parenting journey and my DH still can't accept that I don't love my SC 'like my own' but to me it's a completely unrealistic expectation, and one nobody seems to place on stepdads, only ever stepmums Hmm

You are going to need cast iron boundaries if this has any chance of working OP, and you have to consider whether it's worth the amount of effort and energy that will take from you. DH and I eventually came to an uneasy truce about it and it's been mostly ok but does still rear it's ugly head from time to time, even now the SC are adults.

None of what you've posted is unreasonable on your part but your partner's expectations are worrying, it's going to take considerable compromise from him if this set up is going to be fair/bearable for you so you need to ask yourself whether he's capable of that. You and he have fundamentally different views on your role as stepmum and it's very difficult to find a balance everyone is happy with when that is the case.

Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:29

Re finances now we both earn a good salary. We put a set amount into a joint account each month for bills, this is based on a % of income rather than a set amount or 50/50 so he does contribute a little more than me. We then put £300 into savings and then the rest is ours to do as we please. I gave him 20k not long ago to help pay off some of his debt so we could buy a house and he is paying off the rest (about 80k in total left from previous relationship, she declared bankruptcy so he is paying it all back, accrued from both of them, it was a while ago now). I have 50k for a house deposit. I have paid for all of the wedding deposits and he is paying for all of the final balances (which will work out to be more than I have paid) which we agreed was fair as he earns more than I do.

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Mumof4plusbonus · 02/08/2023 15:28

There’s not much you can do about the in laws involving his ex in holidays, family events, anything really and you will be told you are unreasonable because she’s their grandchild’s mother. I wouldn’t like it either tbh but it can be seen as what you’re signing up for, she will always be a part of it.
She should be paying half of school expenses, uniforms trips etc, but if your dp sends their child to private school and she can’t afford it then what can you expect her to do? If I was her I just wouldn’t agree to it because it leaves her vulnerable too imo but it’s up to them.

Hayliebells · 02/08/2023 15:25

I'd say all your instincts are correct. Your partner sounds controlling, and I'd be reconsidering the relationship.

Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:25

He could afford to pay for private school fees out of just his salary. I suppose then it would mean as a couple we would have very little left to save or use for other things. It would just be my disposable income.

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Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:23

When MIL went away it was her & her husband, their daughter and granddaughter, partners ex and my SD and her brother (not my partners son).

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LadyDanburysHat · 02/08/2023 15:22

Do not marry this man!! Why are you paying money into savings for a child that is not yours? The whole thing is absolutely bonkers. She is not and will never be your responsibility.

StopMindlesslyScrolling · 02/08/2023 15:21

Your DSD has two living and involved parents who can contribute physically and financially to her life; I think your DP is expecting far too much from you.

You shouldn't be contributing to your DSD's savings; how did that come about?

Contact time is for your DSD to spend time with her father, not you, so it's right that you should be going out and about living your child free life when she's there, that way he gets to spend quality time with her - he should not resent you for that.

If he/his ex want to send their DC to private school then it's on them to pay for it.

If, for example, you and your DP earn £2500 each (£5k together) per month, and you need to put £1k each into joint fund for living expenses, (mortgage, bills etc) and you each have £1.5k per month as personal spends, he can spend all of his on his child's education, but can't expect you to put in £1.

His DC's education is not for you to find. If he cant afford to pay for it without you contributing, then he shouldn't be using private schools.

There's so much more to say, but from the outside it looks like you're being used for childcare/entertainment and to cover child costs, which is what her parents should be doing.

Trying100 · 02/08/2023 15:21

We argued about me not caring for his SD enough because I wanted to go away on holiday and not invite her and also we had a discussion re private school and how to split finances etc once we were married. So I booked a holiday with us and other friends and their kids so she would have someone to play with and also put money into her savings of my own accord so he could show that I do care, but yes it isn't love in the same way. However I am standing firm on SDs mum contributing her share of joint financial responsibilities etc such as school fee's/trips etc. He read a while ago on my laptop that I was looking at mums nets feeds about step parenting as I was struggling with it and anything I do since is seen as a deliberate action to exclude her or make her upset. I am still upset re the MIL and ex going on holiday but not sure if I am being unreasonable?

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webster1987 · 02/08/2023 15:20

Being a stepmother can be hard in any relationship but it sounds very much like your partner is making it that much harder.

The relationship between you and DSD should never be forced. It already sounds like you're doing more than you perhaps should, such as financially contributing to savings. He is her father and she has a mother. You are a bonus person in her life that isn't obliged to do anything but treat her with kindness/respect and create a safe loving home for when she is with you and her dad. That's it.

Your partner sounds very much like the problem and in my opinion, it's something you really need to have a full and frank discussion about before you get married.

Mumof4plusbonus · 02/08/2023 15:19

I don’t think not going to private school is suffering and I’m actually with her mum on this one. If she can’t afford to send all her kids there she shouldn’t send one. I wouldn’t agree to it even if the dad paid tbh. You should agree big financial decisions in a marriage of course, but it’s always more complicated if they have another child. So he can choose to pay for his child (assuming he can still pay his share of everything else and you aren’t picking up the slack elsewhere). But you shouldn’t pay for it.

Marblessolveeverything · 02/08/2023 15:19

I don't think you are unreasonable but there are some elements unreasonable. Your exs family may include who they wish and have a large incentive to keep that relationship positive to access their grandchild.

The attending part of the hen is I feel a reasonable compromise.

Walking into rooms - how old is she - if young she is dealing with two sets of rules which can challenge a young child - get a bolt and put it on when necessary.

Your partner wants private school then he pays. The way your future dh is treating you that is unreasonable - please carefully consider if this is how he is treating you before commitment - what will the future hold.

Holidays without SD that is up to her father - but it would be unusual to go often or for long without children - it comes with the package.

I don't think including dogs and not your SD was the wisest step - it can look a little thoughtless.

Be very careful before you consider adding children into this mix - your partner is displaying some concerning behaviour that I would not want in a one.

SalmonEile · 02/08/2023 15:19

When your in laws went away did they bring the child’s siblings as well as their mother?

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