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Average Speed camera

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:02

So I have had my licence 10 years never speed, tbh see it as dangerous and don’t want to risk other people’s lives. Never been pulled over nothing ever.
Yesterday driving along a motor way, go around a roundabout the motor way has no speed signs, stupidly go by the sat nav (it’s a motor way so just assumed 70mph).
See i have passed an average speed camera as I turn in which is fine as doing 70 or under, halfway down the road there is a bloody 40mph sign, so I have slowed down to 40mph (this is half way up the road). Anyway turns out the whole road is 40mph just no sign 🙄, I’m not going to fight it as I don’t want to make it worse, and it’s miles from where I live to get a picture would be a pain. I did check it as I left so I know there was no sign. The cameras are working at the temples speed limit of 40mph. So I was doing 70mph (prob just under half the way) then 40mph just under half way the rest. So assuming averagely doing 56mph-58mph.
Seems I’m looking at 4-6points or even disqualification 🤷🏼‍♀️. First offence is there any chance of a course? I’m gutted as I never speed and it was a new area and if there had been a sign I would have stuck to it. I’m assuming it fell over although even on google maps there is no signs 🤦🏼‍♀️. Which was 2 months ago although was road work signs. Too busy talking to the kids. I’m clearly not going to try and get out of it, just really worried about the consequence tbh.

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:54

I didn’t speed on the a12 just meant people ignore them.

no one was on the road where I was speeding was super early 🤣

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RocketIceLollie · 30/07/2023 10:54

I'm pretty sure those average speed cameras also clock your original speed as you enter the average speed zone, so even if you slow down to make up for the initial speed they will still have you over the limit at the start. You are gonna be quite a way over the limit so you might get a lot of points...

Popworld · 30/07/2023 10:52

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:50

These ones are new and very much on from what I hear, a12 everyone speeds through them and swear they are not on

Were you overtaking loads of vehicles?

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:50

These ones are new and very much on from what I hear, a12 everyone speeds through them and swear they are not on

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CrotchetyQuaver · 30/07/2023 10:48

Have you had a ticket through?

I don't think I know of anyone who's been caught by average speed cameras...
I'd wait and see what happens first...

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:46

I def did one camera to the other. I think I’m so anxious as it’s 40mph so I was miles over even averagely looking at 56mph

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:45

It was yesterday 🤣. 🤦🏼‍♀️ came home and Googled like mad

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Tidsleytiddy · 30/07/2023 10:44

TheFlis12345 · 30/07/2023 10:11

Average speed cameras don’t flash. One records the time you enter a stretch of road then another records when you leave it. They then calculate what your average speed would have been to cover the distance in the time you took.

@Ohdearwhatnow4 thats a good explanation of how they work 👍

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:43

Thanks I’m not able to get a picture I have asked on Facebook but don’t live close. Don’t think I can use google maps although even on there there is no sign after the roundabout 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️.

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Fizzypop88 · 30/07/2023 10:43

If it was a while ago you might be ok? When I got done speeding I got my ticket within a week.

first offence I was doing 83 in a 70 and just got a course no points.

also if you joined part way, you might have only been covered by one camera and therefore they won’t get your average speed…

KateyCuckoo · 30/07/2023 10:41

I mean, you don't sound the most observant of drivers if you didn't notice the difference between a dual carriageway and a motorway so you probably missed the signs.

tommika · 30/07/2023 10:41

You don’t know yet that the camera was active and that you were timed.

(As a tip - note that roadworks average speed cameras often have “not in use” signs when the 70mph limit is active, this is when the reduced limit and cameras are active depending on the road works activity)

If the road works are not currently active for the weekend etc the cameras would still be up but restricted speed limits may not apply, or of parts of the stretch have restricted speeds then multiple cameras would be active or inactive depending on which stretch they are on - eg you may have been correct at that moment for 70 then dropping to 40 on the sign, with the earliest camera inactive as it currently covers a 70 stretch

You will find out your options if/when you get the letter, but it is not impossible to appeal a missing sign - especially if multiple drivers also did 70 then dropped

Down here in Wiltshire when Solstice services were being built junctions and a bridge was ‘relocated’. Depending on the stages of the works a reduced speed limit was applied - and this sometimes applied for only a few hours. A sign was raised with the reduced speed limit but there was a well published occasion when it had not been raised
Motorists who were caught on camera ‘speeding’ were able to successfully appeal that the sign had not been displayed
On motorist was able to quash her ban for >100mph on the basis that she was ‘only’ exceeding 70mph and not doubling 50mph

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:40

@CaputDraconis thanks. If there has just been one sign after that roundabout just one I would have slowed but but I suppose it’s 40mph from all the ways in but I didn’t realise until I google mapped it.

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CaputDraconis · 30/07/2023 10:38

The cameras are definitely working on that stretch. I live nearby and lots of people been caught

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:35

@Popworld thanks I don’t like speeders never speed I’m sure others would of done better and noticed more 🤦🏼‍♀️. However I always drive to the limit. I just wanted to see if anyone had been over by that amount.

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Popworld · 30/07/2023 10:33

@Mummy289 be prepared for a pile on. MN hates speeders

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:33

@Popworld if I could go back in time I would off 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️. What a melon I am 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:31

Thanks just have so much anxiety have 3 disabled children and live in the middle of no where so it’s playing on my mind. I’m frustrated with my self.
@UnsolicitedOpinions I was too slow because I didn’t see any other signs I literally thought I had to slow down there and did, on the way back was a thousand signs the other side and that’s when the penny dropped 🤦🏼‍♀️. Feel so stupid

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cinnamonfrenchtoast · 30/07/2023 10:31

You don't even have a ticket yet - try not to borrow worry about something that might not even happen.

And if you do get a ticket, it's not the end of the world. You have a clean license and no previous convictions so in all likelihood it will just be points and a fine, maybe a speed awareness course if you're lucky.

ArcticSkewer · 30/07/2023 10:30

UnsolicitedOpinions · 30/07/2023 10:28

You should have done the second half at 10 miles per hour then you would have been ok!

Or pulled over for a nice five minute rest in a layby?

Popworld · 30/07/2023 10:30

UnsolicitedOpinions · 30/07/2023 10:28

You should have done the second half at 10 miles per hour then you would have been ok!

Or pulled over of there was space and waited

UnsolicitedOpinions · 30/07/2023 10:28

You should have done the second half at 10 miles per hour then you would have been ok!

Popworld · 30/07/2023 10:28

As above no point worrying until later . It's happened. You'll find out within 2wks

Bromptotoo · 30/07/2023 10:26

As above, wait to see if you actually get a Notice of Intended Prosecution. They've got 14 days to send it so provided the car is yours and registered at your own current address you won't have too long to wait :-)

Average speed cameras do exactly what the name says; measure your average speed. That means they need you to have passed two of the yellow camera poles. The system catches your car's reg at each camera and does a speed= distance/time calculation between two points.

Living near the M1 we've had something like ten years of speed limited works in the vicinity for new barriers, all lane running etc fro 19 down to MK. There's often a AS camera on the slip but then the next one is a mile or two on. So, unless you've been well over the limit, enough to drive your average speed over that mile+ well over the prosecution threshold of around 45mph, you've nothing to worry about.

Even if you're a tad over you'll probably get the offer of a Speed Awareness' Course. Cost you £100 or so but you actually learn loads of stuff. Worth it even if it didn't avoid points!!

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:25

I literally come off the round about seeing it as a new road. But clearly it wasn’t.

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