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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:02

So I have had my licence 10 years never speed, tbh see it as dangerous and don’t want to risk other people’s lives. Never been pulled over nothing ever.
Yesterday driving along a motor way, go around a roundabout the motor way has no speed signs, stupidly go by the sat nav (it’s a motor way so just assumed 70mph).
See i have passed an average speed camera as I turn in which is fine as doing 70 or under, halfway down the road there is a bloody 40mph sign, so I have slowed down to 40mph (this is half way up the road). Anyway turns out the whole road is 40mph just no sign 🙄, I’m not going to fight it as I don’t want to make it worse, and it’s miles from where I live to get a picture would be a pain. I did check it as I left so I know there was no sign. The cameras are working at the temples speed limit of 40mph. So I was doing 70mph (prob just under half the way) then 40mph just under half way the rest. So assuming averagely doing 56mph-58mph.
Seems I’m looking at 4-6points or even disqualification 🤷🏼‍♀️. First offence is there any chance of a course? I’m gutted as I never speed and it was a new area and if there had been a sign I would have stuck to it. I’m assuming it fell over although even on google maps there is no signs 🤦🏼‍♀️. Which was 2 months ago although was road work signs. Too busy talking to the kids. I’m clearly not going to try and get out of it, just really worried about the consequence tbh.

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Popworld · 30/07/2023 12:45

topnoddy · 30/07/2023 12:44

Nope !

It's 60mph on an A road , regardless of the average speed cameras set up you were speeding anyway .

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Depends if its single or dual carriageway

topnoddy · 30/07/2023 12:44

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 12:41

A roads are still 70 mph?

Nope !

It's 60mph on an A road , regardless of the average speed cameras set up you were speeding anyway .

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 12:41

A roads are still 70 mph?

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 12:40

@topnoddy literally I checked coming off marks farm ti galley the only sign was half way. There was one before the roundabout too. Others have agreed when u join that road there is no sign. I was there early hours so maybe it had fallen but I’m can hand on heart sag there was not one as I turned in from roundabout.
the other side from galley was loads

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 12:38

Have apologised for calling it a motor way 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 12:37

@Ohdearwhatnow4 these were the only ones I went last. Both connected not a long road so went through first just under 70 second 40 or just under. So how would they work that out. I assumed they took the time it took you to pass from one to the other?

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Tinkerbyebye · 30/07/2023 12:09

Ohdearwhatnow4 · 30/07/2023 10:04

Did the camera flash, when you went past? As not all cameras work are switched on.

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thats not how ASCs work. They capture your speed at the entrance to the area, and at the end. On long stretches they can have a number of cameras, particularly if you can join in between so you speed is captured as you drive, hence the6 take the average.

topnoddy · 30/07/2023 12:03

sadaboutmycat · 30/07/2023 12:01

My first thoughts too.

OP did you join a motorway? Or was it a junction where one ends and you go onto another.

As Motorways do not have roundabouts.

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The A120 is not a motorway , the clue is in the A not M

sadaboutmycat · 30/07/2023 12:01

WaxhamSeals · 30/07/2023 10:09

Which motorway has roundabouts?

My first thoughts too.

OP did you join a motorway? Or was it a junction where one ends and you go onto another.

As Motorways do not have roundabouts.

topnoddy · 30/07/2023 11:59

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:57

Braintree from marksfarm roundabout to galley cor

That's been in place for months now , always seen the 40 signs when i've been on that stretch .

It's an A road so that ain't no motorway speed limit at anytime

AnneTwacky · 30/07/2023 11:42

Looks from the notice from highways England the reduced limit is from Mark's farm roundabout to planners interchange but I doubt you will get a ban, especially if you have a clean license at the minute.

I would wait and see if anything comes through, which it might not. I'm sure, worse case scenario you have the points on your license for a few years.

I would just keep a super look out for any temp speed limit signs next time you see a average speed camera or roadworks ahead sign. There will almost certainly be one on a 70mph road to keep it safe for any workers.

I know easy to be wise after the event but it will be ok, whatever happens next.

LadyLeo99 · 30/07/2023 11:42

That's not how average speed cameras work

bookworm44 · 30/07/2023 11:29

I think a speed awareness course would be a good idea for you. They teach you how you should know what speed you should be doing without relying on signs and how to differentiate between different roads. I found it all very helpful when i did mine a couple of weeks ago. It was at a conference centre, not online.

WhyDoesItAlways · 30/07/2023 11:23

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 11:17

@CaputDraconis yes I saw them ones but didn’t thinking it was to do with the next road (like how would u know what way you are coming off) but off course it’s all 40mph at the minute but I had no idea 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️.

Did you see a national speed limit sign to let you know you were no longer in a 40mph zone? Not all roads have speed limit signs at the exit of a roundabout unless the speed limit changes.

Either way, if you've been caught they have 14 days to send you the nip so you'll find out soon enough. You then fill it out to confirm you were the driver and they will get back to you with whatever penalty options are available to you. There's nothing you can do now but wait.

zingally · 30/07/2023 11:21

Please don't worry about getting disqualified, that just won't happen.

That only happens for REALLY serious repeated breaches. For a first time offense, going 20mph over, you might get points and a fine, but nowhere near disqual.

Were you keeping up with the flow of traffic? If everyone else was doing a similar speed to you, then likely the cameras aren't even on, and all the locals who do the road regularly no that.

But actually, the most likely outcome is nothing at all.

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 11:21

Thanks everyone I will update when the letter comes. I’m guessing 56mph average. As I know I did nearly 70 then slowed to 40mph. Either was clearly well over. I’m really disappointed with my self.

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 11:17

@CaputDraconis yes I saw them ones but didn’t thinking it was to do with the next road (like how would u know what way you are coming off) but off course it’s all 40mph at the minute but I had no idea 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️.

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 30/07/2023 11:12

Op if you're average works out at 56 then you would be just over for a speed awareness course 53 in a 40 limit however if your speedometer over reads your speed it is possible you were actually 53 or under. If you are over it would just be a fixed penalty notice and 3 points

BCCoach · 30/07/2023 11:08

RocketIceLollie · 30/07/2023 10:54

I'm pretty sure those average speed cameras also clock your original speed as you enter the average speed zone, so even if you slow down to make up for the initial speed they will still have you over the limit at the start. You are gonna be quite a way over the limit so you might get a lot of points...

On what basis are you “pretty sure” of this? Other than having absolutely no idea how average speed cameras work and just guessing? Or just making stuff up to upset the OP even more?

SerendipityJane · 30/07/2023 11:07

If you have been caught you’ll almost certainly be offered an awareness course.

But not guaranteed. As was hammered into me when I took mine. It's down to the local forces charging policy. Well worth it if it is offered though. Having done one I'd make them compulsory every 10 years.

SerendipityJane · 30/07/2023 11:05

RocketIceLollie · 30/07/2023 10:54

I'm pretty sure those average speed cameras also clock your original speed as you enter the average speed zone, so even if you slow down to make up for the initial speed they will still have you over the limit at the start. You are gonna be quite a way over the limit so you might get a lot of points...

You need markings on the road for that to hold up.

CaputDraconis · 30/07/2023 11:03

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:57

Braintree from marksfarm roundabout to galley cor

The 40 signs are on the entrance to the roundabouts not the exits from it. They are even on street view as they have been up so long 😫

NutellaNut · 30/07/2023 11:00

If you have been caught you’ll almost certainly be offered an awareness course. (You may not have been.) The cost is the same as the fixed penalty charge, but you don’t get any points added to your licence and it doesn’t appear on your driving record if your successfully complete the course. You also don’t have to inform your insurance company so it won’t affect your renewal quote. (I know cos I did one last year and people specifically asked these questions about if you had to declare an awareness course to insurance. )

It will cost you about £100 or so to do the course, depending on the current rate. Mostly they are by zoom now. It’s annoying and easy done but try not to worry about it. I’m currently waiting to see if I got a ticket for another offence by following a Sat Nav (accidentally driving though a place I now think was for buses and taxis only) and not using my own common sense before it was too late. Lesson learned for me whether I get the ticket or not about relying too much on the Sat Nav!

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Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:57

Braintree from marksfarm roundabout to galley cor

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CaputDraconis · 30/07/2023 10:55

Mummy289 · 30/07/2023 10:50

These ones are new and very much on from what I hear, a12 everyone speeds through them and swear they are not on

Where did you get on the A120?