So many E-scooter deaths..

That applies to cars too though

They should be regulated. They are useful- incredibly useful- particularly for people who would otherwise be disadvantaged.

Get them insured and regulated.
Apparently insurance is currently driving up our car insurance as it's included in the uninsured vehicle scheme.

They are great, but currently only used by people who are happy to break the law.

My dad is deaf. He will it hear one coming behind him, and if one hit him, he would not come off best. They should be for private land only.

We have 1 death and 2 severe injuries to teens/young adult men on public roads just in the last 2 months in our town while they were on e-scooters.

The most recent involved a 14 yr old.

I personally think the parents of minors riding them should be prosecuted for procuring them for them to use illegally.

They should never have been allowed to be sold freely to the public. You should need a licence and proof that you have access to private land to ride them.

We take measures for cars - like seatbelts, airbags, road traffic measures and MOTs

Unfortunately we will still have accidents and fatalities when people ignore or improperly use them

Someone riding an E scooter- has absolutely zero impact protection at speeds that are illegal in pedestrian areas

We can't prevent everything, we can make things safer for everybody

Yanbu. Round my way they're all ridden too quickly by idiots with ear buds in and hoods up.

This. Can’t say I care about what happens to anyone who rides an electric scooter.

34 deaths from 2019 to now on e-scooters.

1558 deaths in cars in 2021 alone.

Think we need to ban cars too.

That's because responsible people know they are currently illegal...

We have the maniac youths tearing around.
Parents taking kids to school/ nursery by standing on the scooter with DC.🤔
Drug runners

But to counteract that, I was walking the dog one evening. She suddenly turned round, I swung round, and there was a lad on a scooter coming up the pavement behind me. Hoody, trackies, etc. He braked, stopped, walked pushing the scooter past me, said good evening, put his hand down for my dog to sniff, then once past me, got on again. Off he went. If they all were like that lad, it wouldn't be a problem.

I've never actually seen them ridden by anyone responsible. Round here they are the transport of the local ferral rats, usually accompanied by hoody, face mask and man bag. Hate the things.

It's equally terrifying when you're driving and get a teenager swerve into the road to avoid a pedestrian collision- has happened to me on many occasions and all good if I am far enough away to see and slow but in the dark I could easily not see till too late as they don't tend to stick to high vis clothing or lights

They're a complete menace. And the parents who buy them for children to use in public are completely irresponsible.

There's a woman local to me who bought one for her then 10yr old, who has significant special needs and had at that point a mental age of about 4/5. She lets the child out, on their own, no safety gear, riding it on the road (no pavements, so cars and pedestrians in the road). The child has come off multiple times, crashed into walls and all sorts. Through some miracle no other people have been injured but it's only a matter of time.

Disabled person who uses a mobility scooter- goes at 4mph max and I'm not permitted to use it on the road, only pedestrian areas

Yes, I think we need a crackdown- they go at far higher speeds than I'm allowed to drive my mobility scooter and they have far less impact protection than even a bicycle for those who ride them. They're illegal anyway other than on private property so it shouldn't have ever got to the current state but we can't have things going at 20mph on pavements safely!

No issue with them on the roads round here. They go on the pavements, and get quite aggressive with slow pedestrians. They are so common in think there is no awareness they are illegal.

I was behind one in Brum the other day. Only momentarily as he blasted past doing at least 30mph weaving in between the traffic with one foot on scooter and other sort of skimming along the ground.

I'm not at all exaggerating. He was going pretty damn fast!

@GrumpyPanda that is hard to prove and open to bias, I'm sure. So many cars in London only carry one person.

Factually false. There's been a gazillion studies on this in those cities that have legalized them, and they mostly replace foot or bicycle trips. So worse for the environment in every respect.

One went into the back of my car, did substantial damage and they have no insurance

The lack of helmets is a total safety nightmare, the scooters go so fast, we often see two on a scooter at a time. Should they crash and their heads hit the kerb, well it doesn’t bear thinking about tbh.

Exactly. Used sensibly they are actually a great idea

This definitely isn't true where I live. I know someone who uses one regularly and doesn't have a driving licence. If you have a smart phone you can hire one ( legally).

They are amazing from an environmental point of you, great for short trips which might otherwise be taken by car. Speed limiting would help with safety.

The problem isn't the scooters themselves, its the people who drive them