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To think if AI becomes able to take over 100% of jobs we will live in a utopia

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StaceM · 18/07/2023 16:58

I know people are worried that AI could take over jobs right now and yes it would be very problematic if it were only taking over some or most jobs as we’d still need money, but if it took all, it’s a different story.

If AI did every job, all humans would be out of work which means no one would be getting paid. However, money is only an incentive to work and if we don’t work, we don’t need money (AI obviously will work for free and do anything we want for free). If money doesn’t exist, then poverty won’t exist. If poverty doesn’t exist, crime will be almost completely eliminated as there’s be no incentive.

If AI did every job, every human on the face of the earth could do what we want, when we want and for free. It would be a utopia. Thoughts?

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AlexaSwet1 · 19/04/2024 12:47

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Orders76 · 18/07/2023 23:33

It's all ok if we have universal income.
However if the corporates take all the upsides then we're looking at more of a terminator future.

Allmyghosts · 18/07/2023 20:49

It's true though, to us AI has just in the last year or so exploded, in reality though how long has it been online? The technology we have always lags behind the "elites" or the military. This website was a shit show during covid, you couldn't raise any salient points at all without being mobbed.

There are very few spaces online where people can talk frankly about things without being either shadow banned or gish gash gallop gaslighted into hell.

CorvusPurpureus · 18/07/2023 20:26

Ok, great. But my friends & I, hypothetically, we own the AI.

You, however, do not. You don't contribute anything of value - the AI does whatever it is you trained to do.

Not necessarily much point keeping you around, is there? You & your family are just hungry mouths. Bad for the planet, really. It would be much better just to have a tiny human population figuring out how to breed tigers back from extinction, say. Much prettier & cooler than all those unnecessary people who are foolishly expecting to be kept in idleness forever mooching from wall pilates to museum to calligraphy class.

In this hypothesis I'd totally be toast early on, btw!

See Douglas Adams. 99.9% of us are going to be telephone sanitisers if AI gets a grip 🤔

Allmyghosts · 18/07/2023 20:18

Hmm no. The people in charge would get rid of superfluous. I mean this is already a very popular conspiracy theory. In my opinion the whole transhumanist AI future thing is just a pipe dream. I have been very wrong about Future things though (should have bought Bitcoin when I thought it was a daft idea).

FrivolousTreeDuck · 18/07/2023 20:17

Miajk · 18/07/2023 20:08

Yep. With every tech revolution, the rich get richer and poor get poorer.

Yep.

ColonelSpondleClagnut · 18/07/2023 20:15

I think there'll be an energy crash long before then.

illiterato · 18/07/2023 20:10

ReadRum · 18/07/2023 20:01

It already exists and is leading to more real life abuse of children, not less. See reports in today’s newspapers.
Also, there is no international agreement yet on preventing AI being connected to lethal weapons. Without that the future looks a little different.

AI will 100% be used in military applications.

illiterato · 18/07/2023 20:10

PurpleButterflyWings · 18/07/2023 19:49

NO. It's already starting to fail 😆

Saw on the news tonight, that you only have to put a black sticker on a sign (say a no entry sign) and the AI thing sees it as a 30mph peed limit sign.

Not as smart as some people are trying to make out.

AI will NEVER take over humans ... NEVER.

Why would there need to be a stop sign? Only humans need those. AI would just know where all the other cars are and if it needs to stop or not.

Miajk · 18/07/2023 20:08

plasticwallet · 18/07/2023 17:22

No, the people who own all the robots and tech will be in utopia, you will be living in the gated slums.

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Yep. With every tech revolution, the rich get richer and poor get poorer.

Redlarge · 18/07/2023 20:06

Greed and hate will still exist.

Thelnebriati · 18/07/2023 20:04

'utopia' is where men sit around wanking off to AI generated porn?

ReadRum · 18/07/2023 20:01

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It already exists and is leading to more real life abuse of children, not less. See reports in today’s newspapers.
Also, there is no international agreement yet on preventing AI being connected to lethal weapons. Without that the future looks a little different.

PurpleButterflyWings · 18/07/2023 19:49

NO. It's already starting to fail 😆

Saw on the news tonight, that you only have to put a black sticker on a sign (say a no entry sign) and the AI thing sees it as a 30mph peed limit sign.

Not as smart as some people are trying to make out.

AI will NEVER take over humans ... NEVER.

user9630721458 · 18/07/2023 19:47

I want to read books, listen to music and look at art created by humans, who know what it is to love, suffer, feel pain etc. I don't want to consume AI generated material which could be programmed with any kind of hidden messages, advertising, political nudges that unscrupulous corporations might pay for. It's terrible what streaming services are doing to writers and actors, and really sad to see human creativity being stolen and usurped.

Azeroin · 18/07/2023 19:41

I don’t just work for money. I work because I enjoy my job, it’s intellectually stimulating, and it’s exciting to work with great, inspiring people.

In this utopia, who is going to create all the original art, the theatre, the TV programmes, the cinema? Who is going to decide what leisure activities we want?

If you’re going to say the robots, I’d question the point of human beings existing at all….. and wonder how long it will take the AI to reach the same conclusion.

FoodFann · 18/07/2023 19:35

Who owns the land your food grows on? Do you think they’d give it to you for free?

illiterato · 18/07/2023 19:30

The problem is that currently, people still think of humans effectively designing the world and AI making it happen for them. Really simple example- people think there will still be hospitals and schools and they will have robot teachers and doctors. But why would there be schools and hospitals? Why is there now a need to educate humans and keep them healthy? They just trash the planet and eat too much. Fuck em, say the AI overlords. The end game of AI is that the machines will be in charge. They will design and operate the world. Their intelligence and ability to solve complex problems will far outstrip even the most intelligent human. And we will be complicit in this because it will become a national arms race - everyone will agree that AI is dangerous but no one will be prepared to give theirs up if someone else has it.

so think carefully before you tell Siri to fuck off 🤣

smilesup · 18/07/2023 19:28

In my ideal world Ai would be programmed to track down all the bastards tha make it and watch and lock them away forever.

smilesup · 18/07/2023 19:25

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Now you are taking the piss. Have you not noticed that people emulate porn in real life. Poor girls being made to think anal is normal and should be permitted whenever a man wants it. The same happens with child rape/porn

TheMentionOfYourName · 18/07/2023 19:11

I can't understand why people never expect things to change, especially now with how technology has advanced. We will never stop evolving, the one thing humans do well is adapting. We will adapt to a different way of life.

BertieBotts · 18/07/2023 19:03

I think the current excitement about AI art and other creativity will die down, because as said, it is actually quite limited and bland. It looks really really good, impressive, and unique at first glance, but after a while, you realise that it's all pretty samey. DH has been doing custom bedtime stories for DS2 where he gets to pick the topic and they always seem to have the line "they saw many people walking their dogs and children playing". I am on an online forum for people who play The Sims 2 and people were using a chatbot to generate character backstories and they noticed that every family has a labrador called Max and every mother is a nurse.

I know it will improve from where it is now. But it really seems on a level of those generic crap books that you get from e.g. Paw Patrol. It's not like Julia Donaldson. And if a person is writing the crappy TV-tie-in books or a machine is, who cares?

StaceM · 18/07/2023 19:01

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Nellieinthebarn · 18/07/2023 18:49

Well at the moment they are trying to teach computers to write poetry while children work in sweatshops, and there was a thing on TV last night about the use of AI to generate child porn, so I would be very surprised if utopia for all humans was the outcome of AI.

Tiredalwaystired · 18/07/2023 18:46

The way AI is going is messed up. Ideally it would take away the drudge to allow us to enjoy the freedom to be creative.

in reality it’s taking away the creative roles and leaving us with the drudge.

Simon Pegg today said that if we allow AI to do all the creative stuff we can only get mediocre arts at best as it will only be able to be based on what’s gone before.

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