To not get the Taylor swift hype?

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I’m gen x and my DD likes her because I played her music and I know a friend of mine has liked her since her second album, and my sister is coming to see her with me and was planning to come to the covid cancelled show with me.

Obviously a very small sample size 🤣 but it’s definitely not just teenagers.

@ShallowHallow I’d get the money off them now, yes, if they swap later on for some reason they can sort it out amongst themselves.

I find her music, image, persona extremely bland and dull. But everyone has different tastes.

Me too OP.

I must be missing something. I feel the same way about Ed Sheeran and Adele too. Don't get me wrong they obviously have talent but I just find their music boring personally.

Yes. I can’t see baby boomers knowing her. I have known of her name but didn’t know any songs till my girl got into her. I am generation X.

Yes definitely my credit card. I am
a novice at all this. Wonder if I can ask her friends to pay me now or whether I need to wait till nearer the time. Her friends could change I guess?!

Feeling meh about her music doesn’t mean I dislike her as a person. I am sure she is lovely. And I like the way she has taken control over her songs. I am delighted that my daughter is delighted to get tickets.

I hope the concerts go well. Though I admit my maternal side worries about how she will have the stamina to do so many shows without getting exhausted and unwell!

The Forbes data is refer to US fans and perhaps their demographic is different considering that she was originally a country singer. In the UK I doubt many baby boomers have even heard of her. You only have to look at this thread to see that it is often people's teenage daughters that like Taylor Swift.

Honestly I’m surprised it got to 300 posts before someone said it

So you’re saying you prefer to listen to some indie record that’s much cooler than hers?

😂 sorry, but like, the joke was right there....I couldn’t not do it.

My 16 year old DD is a "Swiftie" and has just managed to get tickets for the Cardiff show - she is ecstatic! I am definitely more of a Pink fan myself, but I do quite like some of TS's songs (which is lucky, as they are often being played at full volume around the house!)

I can only tell you from my POV what appears to appeal to my DD about Taylor Swift; her lyric writing abilities, the way she seems to be able to describe exactly how things feel emotionally and that resonates with teenagers. My DD says she finds her really relatable and accessible, like someone anyone could be friends with.

As for the hysteria around this tour in particular; the Eras show is around 4 hours long and TS sings 40 songs - that's a huge set list and a real treat for her fans to enjoy some old favourites, as well as her newer stuff. TS has designed a stage which extends out into the arena, and performs in different areas all the way along it, ensuring people in different part of the arena, even those really far back, have a chance at a decent view. All ticketholders are given a light up wristband as they enter the arena, which glow different colours at different times, creating a light show in the audience. There's lots of online communication among Swifities and this has led to loads of special outfits or lyric printed t-shirts that fans wear to her shows. There's also the friendship bracelets - different lyrics spelled out in brightly coloured beads (my DD has already started working on the 75 bracelets she wants to make, and the show isn't until June next year!) which you take to exchange with other Swifities at the concert. It sounds like a real production, I know it's something my DD will remember forever.

I think Taylor is (for some) the voice of their generation and that's why there's so much hype, it's not that different to the hysteria around The Beatles, except that the internet drives more communication and information about the stars and social media gives fans a platform to worship and discuss their favourites,

Also apparently in the US she has been putting in a three and a half to four hour show, no breaks, apart from costume changes. Her shows are spectacular too.

Nope. Don't get the hype.

Just to add, on top of all that she's also been re-recording several of her albums, because her previous music company wouldn't sell the rights to her, but sold them to someone else if I recall correctly. She's extremely hard working, a good example for teenage girls, has spoken out about problems she had with eating habits and conforming to the standards women are supposed to conform to 🙄, she talks and sings about equality, rights for LGBTQ+, her songs are catchy .. yes I'm a massive fan and will be going to a gig next year with dd, but even if I wasn't I'd be able to recognise that she's a good person. However, we're surely all entitled to our own opinions and tastes.

@Itwasrare I'm assuming you're one of us with that username?

I don't think that she's had a LOT of surgery. I know people think she has had a boob job, and it's likely true, but as my own got much bigger in my 20s, there's a (slim) possibility she hasn't.

I think she has had a very successful nose job (it's a bit slimmer), but aside from that I don't think there's much else obvious. My point is that she looks natural and any work she has had done has only amplified her natural beauty, rather than trying to look like someone else. There's so many fake looking women now. Huge, inflated lips, fillers everywhere, far too much makeup. She keeps it simple.

Not sure where Forbes got it's [sic] figures from but I am pretty sceptical that only 11% of her "avid fans" are generation z while 23% are baby boomers. You only have to look at her audience to see that is highly unlikely.

Ok. Well perhaps you can take that up with Forbes, and let them know their data is incorrect?

I have plenty of colleagues, mostly millennials and gen X who are beyond excited to get tickets, I also know plenty of GenZ who are are not that fussed about her. All anecdotal, of course, and just my personal experience.

Or perhaps just accept my original comment in the spirit it was written rather than assume my age, or ignore my ability to recognise that whilst I also don't understand the TS phenomenon, I'm glad others enjoy her music.

It’s not ‘music’, it’s music.

Sneery comments like that are the reason this thread isn’t jolly like the Bruce Springsteen one was. People aren’t snobby and downright rude about him.

The fact that she is 33 doesn't mean her target audience are middle aged. Not sure where Forbes got it's figures from but I am pretty sceptical that only 11% of her "avid fans" are generation z while 23% are baby boomers. You only have to look at her audience to see that is highly unlikely.

Honestly your not the only one.

I find her music ok but I'm not a fan and never will be one and I don't go out my way to listen to her music - she's too mainstream for my liking. Not enough charisma for me to want to travel and spend god knows how much on a concert to see her.

I personally think SM have hailed her as the queen of break up songs and taps into a market but yeah I don't find her interesting in the slightest. My two pennies.

can NOT stand her 'music' if that's what we are calling it. others are welcome to love it/sell their organs to get tickets. she is a very pretty lady with a phenomenal PR team

You’re entitled to like you who like. I think the pandemic and months of limited ability to go to gigs has fuelled the hype for artists like Taylor Swift. She isn’t the best singer but she puts on a good performance and some of her song writing is stunning.

I don’t get the hype of Harry Styles either but I’m not his target market. I can see why other people adore him though.

I took two half days off work to get her tickets to two concerts. Surely that’s enough and my duty is done?!

That's above and beyond! I'm sure your teen appreciates you a lot. (and I'm assuming you used your cc too )

The whole thread is bizarre, it's not jolly like the recent Bruce Springsteen one was

I kind of suspect it’s the word average that people took umbrage to tbh.

I think? (Could be wrong obviously) that you’re meaning it in a, she’s not to my taste and I have no strong feelings about her music kind of average. But people are maybe reading it a different way.

in fairness, I think she doesn’t do it for me is an opinion and everyone has different opinions on what music they do or don’t like and it’s pretty pointless (and a bit odd really) trying to argue someone should have the same taste in music as you.

I’ll argue the point over something like whether she writes songs because whether someone likes them or not, she does.

Or whether she’s a bad dancer is a valid criticism because, she’s not a dancer, if I wanted to watch dancing I’d buy tickets for that... for the record, I’ve seen fall out boy and they didn’t dance at all, but that’s never something people criticise them for 🤣

‘But I have never seen anything like the defensiveness of Taylor Swift fans.’

It is certainly the case here!! They are taking it oh so personally.

Then again there are people like my teen. Who knows I have heard so many TS songs yet still find them average. She doesn’t mind. I took two half days off work to get her tickets to two concerts. Surely that’s enough and my duty is done?!

But for some fans, it’s unacceptable to call her music average. It’s quite odd.