Page 3 | To not get the Taylor swift hype?

StopBeingASquare · 2023-07-15T12:31:47+00:00

I have my hard hat on. Probably going to get my arse handed to me on a plate. I really don't get all this fuss about Taylor swift, I just find her utterly boring. All this fuss about midnight / album / preorders / codes to then try and attempt to get tickets in Scotland when you live on the cliffs of lands end. Threads and threads about it and people planning their outfits when the gig is a year away, I thought gig attire was jeans and a tour T shirt?! From various YouTube videos I've seen of her singing live I have to say I wasn't impressed at all. Mediocre voice, dodging high notes. I'm obviously a minority here as there's people willing to sell a kidney to just get a code to be in with a chance of getting a ticket. I saw Pink in Hyde park a few weeks ago where she was singing live, doing incredible acts, dancing, acrobats etc and it was incredible. I'm not trying to compare, but I just find Taylor so average! Can anyone tell me why there's all of this hype. I'm fully aware my username is rather fitting. (I'll get my coat..)

TheaBrandt · 02/10/2023 10:11

Are you quite well?! So you think you can have a valid opinion on something you have t actually listened to? A book you haven’t read? A film you haven’t seen? Very weird.

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StopBeingASquare · 02/10/2023 09:29

TheaBrandt · 02/10/2023 07:16

You can’t say you don’t like her music if you haven’t actually listened to it. Listen to the albums evermore and folklore then come back and give an opinion. They are bloody brilliant. Even if you don’t like them if you call songs of that quality “pointless and bad” well then it’s your taste I’m judging. Maybe you like Metallica or Steps or something.

Of course you can! If you know a certain something isn't to your taste you can certainly say you don't like it.

If someone doesn't like seafood, can they not say they don't like prawns as they haven't tried them?

(I forgot I did this thread, I remember how many TS fans I angered now )

I have listened to some of her bits though. I do like her new song cruel summer!

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TheaBrandt · 02/10/2023 07:16

You can’t say you don’t like her music if you haven’t actually listened to it. Listen to the albums evermore and folklore then come back and give an opinion. They are bloody brilliant. Even if you don’t like them if you call songs of that quality “pointless and bad” well then it’s your taste I’m judging. Maybe you like Metallica or Steps or something.

JamSandle · 02/10/2023 00:56

She's a wonderful performer, lyricist and singer.

Ramalangadingdong · 02/10/2023 00:54

I don’t like her music. But I don’t like Beyoncé’s music either (or her arse-wobbling/twerking) - hard hat firmly on.

CrazyArmadilloLady · 02/10/2023 00:42

I’m not a fan. The only song I can name is Shake it Off.

But nobody is paying anyone to see her. Or forcing anyone to listen to her music.

There’s enough music out there for everyone. What does it matter if tastes differ?

We all like things other people think are awful / pointless / bad…. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Bbq1 · 02/10/2023 00:15

She's massively overrated and sold herself out. She was a country singer originally wasn't she? Harry Styles is, also massively overrated. At least TS arguably has some talent, Styles has none. You could pay me to see either of them but bizarrely both are v popular.

JMSA · 01/10/2023 22:08

Jongleterre · 15/07/2023 13:54

She's absolutely dreadful. Mine are adults but if they had liked her 'songs' when they were children I would have failed as a parent.

wondering7777 · 01/10/2023 21:31

People seem surprised that there are some posters who don’t know any TS songs. I genuinely know one (Shake it off) and that’s it! Plus the only bit of that song that I know is the chorus - I couldn’t tell you how the rest goes. I’m spectacularly out of touch 😳

Pugfin · 01/10/2023 21:00

I really adore her music and feel really lucky to have tickets for next year, but damn she's taking the whole media oversaturation to emulate her 1989 era far too serious! Sick of hearing about her- all over social media, adverts and even the news lol!

Jigslaw · 17/07/2023 20:44

Motheranddaughter · 17/07/2023 20:02

My DD and her BFF love her and have tickets for 2 venues and are so excited
Am so pleased for them
They ,like all their cohort,have missed so much

Love this, hope they enjoy (I'm sure they will :D )

TheaBrandt · 17/07/2023 20:36

I have gone back to Lover. Enjoying Cornelia Street, The Archer and Miss Americana and The Man

loverofbono · 17/07/2023 20:33

heldinadream · 17/07/2023 20:15

@loverofbono (ha ha - me too - unless you're being ironic!) thank you for this, I'll definitely listen to them. I'm quite excited by her. Such a lovely feeling and I wasn't expecting it at all, for some reason I thought I would be immune to whatever charms she might have. But I'm not. I think she's quite something.

I have listened to those two albums on repeat since they came out, every song is amazing. There are three on Folklore that are linked, August, Betty and Cardigan. The same story all told from a different person's perspective, so the girlfriend, boyfriend and the other woman. Unreal

heldinadream · 17/07/2023 20:15

@loverofbono (ha ha - me too - unless you're being ironic!) thank you for this, I'll definitely listen to them. I'm quite excited by her. Such a lovely feeling and I wasn't expecting it at all, for some reason I thought I would be immune to whatever charms she might have. But I'm not. I think she's quite something.

loverofbono · 17/07/2023 20:03

heldinadream · 17/07/2023 13:06

Well, hello thread on Taylor Swift. I'm looking for this.
I'm old. (I mean that.) I'd never knowingly heard a TS song until....yesterday! For some reason I just decided it was time I tried her out. So I went along to Youtube and tried one (sorry can't remember which one!) and I LOVE HER INSTANTLY. Now I've listened/watched five and loved three two meh.
So any advice on how to proceed from here would be amazing.
What MUST I listen to? I haven't RTFT yet, I'm only just through the first 100 posts. Just thought I'd ask!
Also she's really gorgeous to watch, very sassy and interesting. And yes great words. Impressed with her intelligence. God I might go all fangirl.
Big fan of Joni Mitchell, back in the day.

You must listen to folklore and evermore. Both amazing

Motheranddaughter · 17/07/2023 20:02

My DD and her BFF love her and have tickets for 2 venues and are so excited
Am so pleased for them
They ,like all their cohort,have missed so much

beguilingeyes · 17/07/2023 20:00

tabulahrasa · 17/07/2023 19:59

If they were marketing fir her, they’re a bit late.. you had to pre-register 3 weeks ago to be even in with a chance to try and buy tickets in the general sale.

and it looks like most of the tickets went on the album pre-sales last week anyway.

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Are they marketing in France too? They had to shut the Paris queue down when it collapsed with a million people in it.

beguilingeyes · 17/07/2023 19:59

WomblingTree86 · 17/07/2023 19:28

She is the sole writer on many of her songs and makes a major contribution to those she co writes as stated by her cowriters who strongly defended her when Damon Albarn tried to discredit her by saying pretty much what you just said.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/24/taylor-swift-damon-albarn-write-own-songs

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I wasn't implying that she doesn't. Quite the opposite. I meant that just because various randoms have a credit, it doesn't mean they actually contributed anything. I think she's fantastic.

tabulahrasa · 17/07/2023 19:59

venusandmars · 17/07/2023 19:48

@StopBeingASquare I agree. There was whole section on radio 4 about people getting tickets! Christ, how much marketing arre BBC doing for her?

If they were marketing fir her, they’re a bit late.. you had to pre-register 3 weeks ago to be even in with a chance to try and buy tickets in the general sale.

and it looks like most of the tickets went on the album pre-sales last week anyway.

WomblingTree86 · 17/07/2023 19:54

venusandmars · 17/07/2023 19:48

@StopBeingASquare I agree. There was whole section on radio 4 about people getting tickets! Christ, how much marketing arre BBC doing for her?

I don't think she needs anyone to market for her!!

venusandmars · 17/07/2023 19:48

@StopBeingASquare I agree. There was whole section on radio 4 about people getting tickets! Christ, how much marketing arre BBC doing for her?

WomblingTree86 · 17/07/2023 19:28

beguilingeyes · 17/07/2023 17:46

The co-songwriting credit thing doesn't necessarily mean a collaboration.
A friend of mine had a song covered by a very famous DJ. He wanted 60% of the publishing! I don't think he got that much but he's now listed as one of the songwriters.
I've heard that Simon Cowell insists on a publishing credit on things that he works on because that's where the money is.

She is the sole writer on many of her songs and makes a major contribution to those she co writes as stated by her cowriters who strongly defended her when Damon Albarn tried to discredit her by saying pretty much what you just said.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/24/taylor-swift-damon-albarn-write-own-songs

Taylor Swift criticises Damon Albarn for saying she doesn’t write her own songs

The Blur and Gorillaz frontman apologised to Swift, claiming that a ‘conversation about songwriting’ in the LA Times was ‘reduced to clickbait’

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/24/taylor-swift-damon-albarn-write-own-songs

namitynamechange · 17/07/2023 18:31

Taylor swift is extremely popular and very good live so of course there's interest in tickets

But also, i think this is a feature of everyone being post covid and very keen to see live music again/appreciative of the opportunity. You see it with other musicians-beyonce, Springsteen, etc

tabulahrasa · 17/07/2023 18:25

beguilingeyes · 17/07/2023 17:46

The co-songwriting credit thing doesn't necessarily mean a collaboration.
A friend of mine had a song covered by a very famous DJ. He wanted 60% of the publishing! I don't think he got that much but he's now listed as one of the songwriters.
I've heard that Simon Cowell insists on a publishing credit on things that he works on because that's where the money is.

There are loads of people who have songwriters who basically write them songs but get credit for adding a word or similar amounts.

Jennifer Lopez has writing credits on songs it’s rumoured she didn’t even sing on never mind write.

So it’s not that writing credits mean everyone listed really wrote a song, but Taylor does write her songs and everyone who’s worked with her says she does... but is constantly accused of lying about it.

beguilingeyes · 17/07/2023 17:46

The co-songwriting credit thing doesn't necessarily mean a collaboration.
A friend of mine had a song covered by a very famous DJ. He wanted 60% of the publishing! I don't think he got that much but he's now listed as one of the songwriters.
I've heard that Simon Cowell insists on a publishing credit on things that he works on because that's where the money is.