To not get the Taylor swift hype?

I don’t think it’s about how well she sings (although she’s definitely not a bad singer!), I think it’s because she is a very good writer but more importantly she’s made herself relatable - I think she’s presented herself in a way and written songs that make people feel comfortable and as if they know her/could be like her and she seems ‘normal’ and likeable. She’s pretty but in a very non fake way and she tells a lot about her anxiety/insecurities. Her songs were a big part of a lot of people’s teenage years and maybe helped them through ? Or just pure nostalgia ?

My DDs are adults (25 and 30) and they adore TS. They have managed to score tickets to see her. Even though her music is not for me I feel very proud that my DDs follow someone who, like them, is a confident and hard working young woman. They tell me her songs speak to them in a way no other songs do and really seem to represent what they think and the attitude they have to life.

She's not a patch on Iron Maiden 😆

I’m not quite sure why you didn’t expect anyone to call you on on the oh but I was only trying to be funny comments in your OP?

Rammstein are on another level to Swift in terms of spectacle.

There's nothing today remotely close to the level of a Freddie Mecury, Michael Jackson or Prince in terms of electric performers today, but these guys are quite possibly the best of the current bunch. This opening song (2 minutes in) in the way each member is introduced is epic:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DXqYh8FkVW8&pp=ygUdUmFubXN0ZWluIDIwMTggcnVzc2lhIGNvbmNlcnQ%3D

She’s a fantastic song writer and story teller

Thats her country music roots. A great genre for story telling through songs. 🤠

She's talented, beautiful and knocks out some right bangers.

People like different things. Primarily she’s a songwriter, I don’t expect songwriters I love to have the most amazing voices in the world. They can have a nice voice that appeals to me in some way (Bob Dylan, Elliott Smith, Brendan Benson are singers I love who aren’t amazing but they move me). She can sing though, and she works hard and her voice has matured in a really nice way.

My primary love is Lana Del Rey and while I don’t think Taylor is at that level (Lana is an artist for the ages for me) I think she’s great. Midnights is a really strong album. Folklore and Evermore were a huge step forward, but I think people like to keep artists in a certain box sometimes and would never admit if they liked it.

I don't know any of her songs but I'm sure she is quite pleasant to listen to, like Harry Styles and Ed Sheeran and others, I don't know any of their songs either but they always sound ok when I see them on the telly.

I don’t know why people assume if you don’t like someone something that is popular it’s because you’re trying to be cool, is there a rule that we all have to like certain artists?

I don’t consider myself cool at all, but I’m not keen on Ed Sheeran or TS, I think being constantly bombarded with music that you don’t particularly enjoy can definitely turn you off someone, if I never heard another Ed Sheeran song again I would be happy, not because I think he’s awful or his songs are terrible, but because I’ve heard enough of his music (which to me is fairly pleasant, but dull) to last me a lifetime.

She’s a fantastic song writer and story teller and has been from a really young age. Her live performances are incredible and have all the content you listed in your op.
She is a strong role model for women-check out her history with spotify and with her own material. She’s a very shrewd business woman who managed to royally screw over those who tried to screw her over with her release of all her old hits.

But yes the current madness and hype is a weird phenomenon. Driven by mainstream and social media and buying in to the band wagon jumping trendy vibe times we live in.

Check out After Glow from Lover as your starter before you dismiss her song writing talent completely 😉

Couldn't name a song of hers at gunpoint so I've no idea whether she's good, bad or indifferent. My tastes tend to run to rock, alternative and classical. But this woman certainly seems very successful and people like what she does, so good luck to her and them.

This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever read on here even though it's your attempt at humour I'm sure.

I couldn't name a single TS song if my life depended on it. Or Beyonce or other big stars.

Pop culture of the last 20 years has passed me by. 🤣

Depends what you mean by average - she’s got a good range, a lot of her most recent albums are very low, lower than some female singers can hit at all.

Her singles don’t really showcase her voice to be fair. Her singles are in fact a pretty bad representation of her work in general... that’s a whole thing though 🤣

But yeah the songwriting is definitely her draw for most people.

And she does do her shows as a whole performance, it’s not just watch her sing.

The other artists that have been mentioned here as "better artists" - Pink, Lady Gaga etc are all talented and put on a great show live, but they don't write songs that speak to me. I can't think of a single lyric of theirs that jumps out at me and makes me think "wow, that really moved me", even though I enjoy them. Taylor is great at that, on a broad range of topics, and as such she touches a lot of different people.

She's also very hardworking, putting out far more content than most of her peers and keeping the hype alive, and she puts a lot of effort into making her fans feel special to her so they stick around.

I don't get it either, but I appreciate that millions can't be wrong. I'm waiting for the penny drop moment.

Tbh I thought that about Harry Styles until DD insisted we go-& dress up etc. He was completely and utterly fucking fabulous and the most entertaining concert I have ever been to. And I am now obsessed 🫣