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To not get the Taylor swift hype?

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StopBeingASquare · 15/07/2023 13:31

I have my hard hat on.
Probably going to get my arse handed to me on a plate.

I really don't get all this fuss about Taylor swift, I just find her utterly boring. All this fuss about midnight / album / preorders / codes to then try and attempt to get tickets in Scotland when you live on the cliffs of lands end. Threads and threads about it and people planning their outfits when the gig is a year away, I thought gig attire was jeans and a tour T shirt?! From various YouTube videos I've seen of her singing live I have to say I wasn't impressed at all. Mediocre voice, dodging high notes. I'm obviously a minority here as there's people willing to sell a kidney to just get a code to be in with a chance of getting a ticket.

I saw Pink in Hyde park a few weeks ago where she was singing live, doing incredible acts, dancing, acrobats etc and it was incredible. I'm not trying to compare, but I just find Taylor so average!

Can anyone tell me why there's all of this hype. I'm fully aware my username is rather fitting.

(I'll get my coat..)

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Jigslaw · 15/07/2023 15:43

SquashPenguin · 15/07/2023 15:34

This x 1,000,000

Im in Berlin now ready to see them tomorrow night. And I’m going to Paris next weekend to see them again 💪🏻💪🏻 Fuck Taylor Swift when you can see actual talent and decent music 🤣🤣🤣 The obsession with her on here is mental.

HIER KOMMT DIE SONNE 🔥🔥🔥

Lmao the same rammstein thousands have been calling to have their shows cancelled amid the numerous sexual assault allegations? Sounds like a great band to be stoked about seeing.

YourNextJobCouldBeInCyber · 15/07/2023 15:43

Well it isn’t a ridiculous comment, actually! It’s how you come across to me.

You have posted on here saying you don’t understand the hype, when it’s very simple to understand why people get excited about things they love. The only reason I can see for not understanding this is if you don’t know what it is like to be passionate about something.

Its totally fine to not be in to an artist, I’m not big into TS personally, but you surely can understand why people are excited, you’ve just come on here to try and bring other people down. 🤷🏻‍♀️

SquashPenguin · 15/07/2023 15:42

aSofaNearYou · 15/07/2023 15:37

@SquashPenguin Rammstein is just noise to me, and I find the people who are into music that sounds like "just noise" are generally the most snobbish about other genres.

I don't have any trouble respecting that others enjoy their sound though!

Ah well nothing like jumping to conclusions is there. Yes metal (and specifically Industrial) is my favourite genre, but I listen to just about everything bar rap/ grime/ garage. I love country music. But please, do go on about metalheads being ‘snobs’. Not everyone has to fall at the feet of Taylor Swift 🤣🤣🤣

AgathaSpencerGregson · 15/07/2023 15:42

nokidshere · 15/07/2023 15:39

No I wasn't around. I'm in my 20s.

Google beatlemania Australia 1964 on YouTube, or their return to Heathrow 1964. I'm pretty sure you will find lots of clips for major stars over the years but beatlemania was mind boggling

Have you read One Two Three Four by Craig brown? The details about how mad the Beatles lives got are mind blowing. I don’t know how they all stayed so sane (well alright John went a bit funny).
mad reactions to pop stars aren’t new.

Jigslaw · 15/07/2023 15:41

IfItAintBrokeBreakIt · 15/07/2023 15:32

@SayHi can you link to the recording where Taylor approves being called a bitch in the Kanye song? I don’t think you can.

She knew about the line about sex with her. That was in the recording. But the calling her a bitch?

Even Kim and kanye said Taylor wasn't told about the bitch line. Having her naked in the music video (obviously edited and not actually her naked) is vile, as is the footage from his concert of him getting thousands of mostly men to chant "fuck taylor swift". How anyone is defending him is so bloody bizarre.

Haveyoubrushedyourteeth · 15/07/2023 15:41

I'm not a fan especially, but I've got an 11 year old who is, and so I'll do the best I can to get her tickets. We went to see Harry last year, and I didn't "get it" beforehand, but after just wow! I guess she's the female equivalent of him so if we do get tickets (everything crossed) im sure I'll be converted.

YerAWizardHarry · 15/07/2023 15:40

SquashPenguin · 15/07/2023 15:34

This x 1,000,000

Im in Berlin now ready to see them tomorrow night. And I’m going to Paris next weekend to see them again 💪🏻💪🏻 Fuck Taylor Swift when you can see actual talent and decent music 🤣🤣🤣 The obsession with her on here is mental.

HIER KOMMT DIE SONNE 🔥🔥🔥

“Fuck Taylor Swift”? Think you need to grow up a bit there…

nokidshere · 15/07/2023 15:39

No I wasn't around. I'm in my 20s.

Google beatlemania Australia 1964 on YouTube, or their return to Heathrow 1964. I'm pretty sure you will find lots of clips for major stars over the years but beatlemania was mind boggling

Flammkuchen · 15/07/2023 15:38

All too well (10 min version) is also a great one to listen to. She tells a full story and captures what it is like to be dumped by someone you were in love with.

YerAWizardHarry · 15/07/2023 15:38

DeeCee77 · 15/07/2023 15:37

I plucked out one album of hers (first one I came across while scrolling Grammy Awards)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evermore_(Taylor_Swift_album)#Track_listing

She had five songwriters with her on that album, and only one song out of fifteen she wrote herself ("No Body no Crime").

From Freddie Mecury to Taylor Swiff, It's a shocking indictment of music today that such a derivative artist, nice pleasant girl that she is, is deemed among the best of the current acts today.

She wrote every single track on Speak Now…

aSofaNearYou · 15/07/2023 15:37

@SquashPenguin Rammstein is just noise to me, and I find the people who are into music that sounds like "just noise" are generally the most snobbish about other genres.

I don't have any trouble respecting that others enjoy their sound though!

YerAWizardHarry · 15/07/2023 15:37

She is quite simply the music industry right now. The biggest artist in the world by far. She’s an extremely talented songwriting and doesn’t have a voice for singing high notes but has a stunning alto voice. She also comes across as a very nice person and cares about her fans very much!

DeeCee77 · 15/07/2023 15:37

tabulahrasa · 15/07/2023 15:11

She writes her own songs.

It’s not just her producers etc that say so, every artist she’s collaborated with say so, even John Mayer who would absolutely say if she didn’t given he’s complained publicly about the song she wrote about him.

I plucked out one album of hers (first one I came across while scrolling Grammy Awards)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evermore_(Taylor_Swift_album)#Track_listing

She had five songwriters with her on that album, and only one song out of fifteen she wrote herself ("No Body no Crime").

From Freddie Mecury to Taylor Swiff, It's a shocking indictment of music today that such a derivative artist, nice pleasant girl that she is, is deemed among the best of the current acts today.

Evermore (Taylor Swift album) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evermore_(Taylor_Swift_album)#Track_listing

StopBeingASquare · 15/07/2023 15:37

YourNextJobCouldBeInCyber · 15/07/2023 15:34

Is there nothing that you feel excited and passionate about?? You really can’t understand why fans of something/someone might seek to connect with other fans?

Well yes there is. Of course there is. What a ridiculous comment.

Just because I don't like TS I don't have any joys or get any passion out of life.

Aye okay Grin

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Flammkuchen · 15/07/2023 15:37

The other amazing thing about Taylor is different people give different favourite songs. They are rarely the no. 1 hits but the album tracks. There is so much depth in her work.

Flammkuchen · 15/07/2023 15:35

OP - As a recently converted 50 year old Swiftie, let me try and explain.

For Taylor - it is all about the lyrics. Forget her voice. There are better singers and better stage performers (though she is amazing live).

But what she does better than anyone, is capture a feeling. Capture a moment. Paint a picture. Her song ‘Fifteen’ captures what it feels like to be 15. ‘The Best Day’ captures what it’s like to be 13 and have your mum as your only friend.

Her best lyrics are so insightful. They capture feelings that feel very personal, but at the same time others can relate to.

She is also an amazing role model for resilience. Her song ‘Blank Space’ was written as she got all this press criticism portraying her as some sort of insane man eater. So she writes a song imagining what it would be like to be that person. Just brilliant.

Folklore is the best album. At first I found it samey, but then I found myself becoming obsessed with each song in turn.

And she also has the fun stuff - Style - Wildest Dreams - just brilliant

StopBeingASquare · 15/07/2023 15:35

Clarista · 15/07/2023 15:34

It’s a perfectly fine question to ask OP, since it’s a massively hyped tour that resulted in Ticketmaster going to court. From the outside people are always going to question it, and I get that even as a fan.

The reason you get such emotional responses is because people who don’t ‘get’ Taylor see her as a blonde bubblegum pop princess and decide she is awful and talentless despite not knowing her music. This is turn pisses off the fans who know she writes her own music and is exceptionally talented, so they clap back. The truth is that she’s popular because she’s currently the best song writer out there, can create quiet introspective poetry, yet she also knows how to throw out a banger and get the radio hits.

If you’re interested in checking out her lyrics I’d suggest the following songs:

All Too Well
The Archer
Peace
Would've Could’ve Should’ve
Maroon
Dear John
Last Kiss

This is really helpful, thank you!

I'll listen to those as well as the other 2 suggested below by PP.

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tabulahrasa · 15/07/2023 15:35

CountFoscoHasMiceInHisPocket · 15/07/2023 15:27

I’d rather my daughter want to go see someone like taylor though than Cardi B or something

I do find this element of the Taylor Swift fandom interesting. Her music is so mum and dad approved. Previously that would have been the kiss of death to a young artist.

It’s also weird because her songs are not all child friendly.

Her early stuff, sure, but not after that.

ghostyslovesheets · 15/07/2023 15:35

IfItAintBrokeBreakIt · 15/07/2023 14:32

I also love Coldplay

Me too. I like Taylor, Ed and Coldplay....is there no hope for me? It’s me, hi, I’m the problem it’s me. 🙋🏻‍♀️😂

HA! Love that song! I have Coldplay on my Spotify - along with TS/Pink/Gaga - no Ed though

For all the music snobs I also have The Transplants, Hole, FF, The Cranberries, Mary Black, Bob Dylan, Crowded House, the album from Oh Brother Where Art Thou and Dave!

YourNextJobCouldBeInCyber · 15/07/2023 15:34

Is there nothing that you feel excited and passionate about?? You really can’t understand why fans of something/someone might seek to connect with other fans?

SquashPenguin · 15/07/2023 15:34

Kindofcrunchy · 15/07/2023 13:40

I'd much rather see Rammstein and have my eyebrows burnt off.

This x 1,000,000

Im in Berlin now ready to see them tomorrow night. And I’m going to Paris next weekend to see them again 💪🏻💪🏻 Fuck Taylor Swift when you can see actual talent and decent music 🤣🤣🤣 The obsession with her on here is mental.

HIER KOMMT DIE SONNE 🔥🔥🔥

StopBeingASquare · 15/07/2023 15:34

This. ^ Lots of jealousy towards Taylor on here. Beautiful, talented, gifted, successful, rich etc... It's understandable, but people are embarrassing themselves with their clear and obvious irrational hatred for her.

@FadeAwayAndRadiate

The only one being irrational here is yourself. You said this thread is making you nauseous. I'm sorry that just because some people don't like Taylor swift it makes you nauseous.

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Clarista · 15/07/2023 15:34

It’s a perfectly fine question to ask OP, since it’s a massively hyped tour that resulted in Ticketmaster going to court. From the outside people are always going to question it, and I get that even as a fan.

The reason you get such emotional responses is because people who don’t ‘get’ Taylor see her as a blonde bubblegum pop princess and decide she is awful and talentless despite not knowing her music. This is turn pisses off the fans who know she writes her own music and is exceptionally talented, so they clap back. The truth is that she’s popular because she’s currently the best song writer out there, can create quiet introspective poetry, yet she also knows how to throw out a banger and get the radio hits.

If you’re interested in checking out her lyrics I’d suggest the following songs:

All Too Well
The Archer
Peace
Would've Could’ve Should’ve
Maroon
Dear John
Last Kiss

Anniejameslastcallanniejames · 15/07/2023 15:32

StopBeingASquare · 15/07/2023 13:31

I have my hard hat on.
Probably going to get my arse handed to me on a plate.

I really don't get all this fuss about Taylor swift, I just find her utterly boring. All this fuss about midnight / album / preorders / codes to then try and attempt to get tickets in Scotland when you live on the cliffs of lands end. Threads and threads about it and people planning their outfits when the gig is a year away, I thought gig attire was jeans and a tour T shirt?! From various YouTube videos I've seen of her singing live I have to say I wasn't impressed at all. Mediocre voice, dodging high notes. I'm obviously a minority here as there's people willing to sell a kidney to just get a code to be in with a chance of getting a ticket.

I saw Pink in Hyde park a few weeks ago where she was singing live, doing incredible acts, dancing, acrobats etc and it was incredible. I'm not trying to compare, but I just find Taylor so average!

Can anyone tell me why there's all of this hype. I'm fully aware my username is rather fitting.

(I'll get my coat..)

I cant stand her! She seems utterly miserable and not that great of a singer

IfItAintBrokeBreakIt · 15/07/2023 15:32

@SayHi can you link to the recording where Taylor approves being called a bitch in the Kanye song? I don’t think you can.

She knew about the line about sex with her. That was in the recording. But the calling her a bitch?

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