To not get the Taylor swift hype?

I also don't understand the hype. To me personally she is very blah

She is, on any scale you want to measure that, NOT average. She’s a talented beautiful megastar who can afford her own private jet. You’re average.

I think she is average. But my teen daughter worships her so I made the effort to get tickets.

Lots of stuff gets hyped up that I am not interested it. I just accept we all like different stuff. I don’t do the faux-confused thing.

The ticket buying seems a quite protracted procedure, I hope it doesn't spread to other artists.

I too am mystified OP. Colleagues on staff to WhatsApp boring on about tickets and I just can’t see why it’s so special

I don't really know what she sings beyond shake it off. But I was able to buy a pair of tickets for each of the wembley dates so I have lots of happy friends!

Balls, it didn't link directly to it. You can find it there though.

http://imogenheap.com/home.php

The Imogen Heap blog. Bring familiar with her work, I totally understand why Taylor wanted her type of sound on Clean. The song is incredible.

I’ve seen Ed sheeran play a stadium, it’s literally him and his guitar and loop pedal, with some graphics on a screen.

I mean I enjoyed it because I quite like him, but it’s pretty basic.

She has already said that her voice is just a means of getting her lyrics out and that she's not a belter but can hold a note. She said if she didn't write her own songs she wouldn't sing.

Watch her miss Americana doc. I can see why people like her.

Also the way she turned around the whole Kim/Kanye thing.. used it and made reputation. That is a real power move and a great lesson to young girls especially.

The way she handled her sexual assault case was great too.

You could also see her "making of a song" videos on YouTube. You can hear/see her write her own songs. She is also very generous with writing credits. Many collaborators have said so.

I don't understand why there has to be codes and waitlists, with every other artist the tickets go on sale at a particular time and you either get one or you don't so the same outcome but a lot less palaver.

It’s clearly not about people liking different things.

It’s why the HUGE HYPE?

I was coming on to agree with you OP - I don’t understand the hype either. The only song of hers I can think of is Shake it Off.

Having read the thread though, I’ve learnt a lot.

But … no-one expects Ed Sheeran to dance, or criticises him for not! And clearly she does have amazing stage presence.

Why are you so determined to hate on her? Yes she came from money, which definitely would be an advantage but her incredible talent is what has sustained and increased her popularity to make her the biggest artist in the world right now. The songs she WRITES (yes others contribute but it's mostly Taylor) speak to so many people. Her back catalogue is huge and varied. She's incredibly smart and articulate.

You should honestly read some of the comments/articles that people who have actually worked with her have said. One of the best songs on 1989 is Clean, which she wrote with Imogen Heap who then blogged about it.

She's not a powerhouse vocalist but to me, her voice is stunning. I also like that she doesn't have an overly sexualised image, unlike so many female performers. I said on another thread that yes, she sings about sex at times but not in a vulgar way, which again has become a thing with many artists.

There were earlier comments on her appearance, how she naturally pretty. Again this is something I totally respect about her. So many women now are fillered to within an inch of their lives, everyone looks the same, while Taylor is in the corner looking utterly gorgeous and unique. She doesn't have talon nails because being able to play guitar is more important to her.

He bought (not brought) a 3% stake in a record label she was already signed to. She doesn't claim she didn't have a headstart or that she grew up in poverty and lifted herself out with no support, but she's still worked ridiculously hard to get where she is. She has written or co-written every single one of her songs, which is an unusual feat. Again it's fine if you dislike her it's the way people try to go out of their way to prove how she has no talent or whatever.

DD has ASD and Taylor Swift is one of her obsessions so she plays her albums constantly and could easily andwer any question about her. She can't go to any of her concerts so I don't have the ticket fever in my house.
Her lyrics are beautifully written. I wouldn't call myself a big fan but having listened to all her songs ( on repeat for years) her grasp of creating images and feelings and memories is rare.

Her Dad BROUGHT a record label. She’s in the top 1% from birth. And plenty with rich parents DO make it (Ed Sheeran, Ariana Grande, Lana Del Ray, Lady GaGa). It does make your chances of success 1000x higher. She’s a limited vocalist. I’m sure she can write lyrics but she cowrites most of her songs and has the best producers.

I just can't abide Pink but l really like TS. Same as no doubt you love some foods/movies/clothes that others hate and vice versa. It's called personal taste. Do you really need to ask?

I think it's that lots are really keen to say she's shit instead of just saying I don't like her stuff. I mean I'm not a fan of beyonces music, but I can still appreciate she's a very talented performer and understand why she has so many fans.

I was teased throughout school and people still make comments because I am black but like a lot of white artists' stuff. There does seem to be bigger divides forming in recent years which is sad. People still making tonnes of comments comparing Beyonce and Taylor and bringing other artists like Lizzo into it- boring.

She comes from money, her Dad pretty much brought the first label she was signed to (owned 90% of it) so she’s had a very easy ride.

Plenty of children and adults with rich parents and connections try to make it big, few do. Regardless of whether she had doors opened for her at the start it's ridiculous to say she's had a very easy ride, it still takes a huge amount of work to gain the level of success she has and to sustain it.

She is fine as a vocalist and dancer. If I think her fans are more interested in hearing the actual songs and don't need her to be the best singer or dancer anyway.

I remember the 80s when barriers between black and white music were coming down constantly, and how vibrant and dynamic music was as a result.
sad we seem to be going backwards.