To not get the Taylor swift hype?

Ooops zombie thread.

I agree.

I've actually seen her live (years ago) and I found her incredibly mediocre, she is a terribly awkward dancer and I found her interactions with the crowd awkward. She just seems a bit socially awkward. Her voice is very average. The sets and stage look incredible at her shows and I think that's what really makes it, rather than her performance. It's all fluffed up as she herself is very average.

Can't put my finger on it. But she comes across like a young teenager in love for the first time. Never understood the hype!

Fantastic poet / song writer though.

"Here’s a crazy suggestion, how about simply not writing down every single thought you have?"

Says person writing down her thoughts on a resurrected zombie thread therefore helping with said resurrection

Lovely to see Paul McCartney dancing with the crowd yesterday. What an inter-generational crossover.

She's a gimlet-eyed, ferret-faced, self-obsessed, manufactured bore. YMMV.

So are you saying the only two options are creating a thread on a topic that’s already been done to death or resurrecting an old thread so that you can add your two pence worth? Here’s a crazy suggestion, how about simply not writing down every single thought you have?

I think people tend to use MN as if this is Facebook or Twitter, a place where they can constantly voice their thoughts. If MN is a discussion forum, how can you comment on a thread that was made a year ago? What exactly is there to discuss when the conversation has very obviously come to a stop. I’m just trying to use my common sense and find the logic in that…

It’s a free world and I guess people can do what they want. However, there is a reason why MN have this written above the comment box of a zombie thread, ‘Heads up - this thread has not been posted on in a while. Why not start a new thread instead?’

God, you can’t bloody win in this place, can you? Start a new thread and you get rounded on for not noticing the other eleventy billion threads already in existence. Resurrect an old thread and you get criticised because someone spent 0.1% of their day reading it before they realised it was a zombie🙄

We paid three hundred and something for four tickets as did most others I know which is a fair price and similar to other events.

That wasn’t the price though - the normal tickets were fairly standard pricing, about double Niall Horan and half Paul McCartney (I’m using those for comparison because that’s what I’ve bought recently)

£300 is either VIP, or resale.., and again pretty much to be expected from any gig.

My tickets bought direct in the original presale were £95

My DP’s standard (not VIP, not particularly close) tickets to Paul McCartney are £185

I think she’s okay, but the hype and the 3 hour. Arena shows are WAY over the top and ridiculously priced. DD wanted to go, friend found tickets -£300 EACH!

When I told DD the price even she thought it wasn’t worth it!
Ridiculous hassle to get extortionate tickets and out even more pressure on parents…

I think her music is mediocre but sometimes even mediocre entertainers can put on amazing shows , however it's the level
Of hype I don't get

I've seen the Eras film.
I think she's a fantastic song writer but I thought a lot of her show was props and dancers. Her actual performances I thought were mediocre too. I think she has a very average voice, and some songs I've seen live and on TV, are very average to not so good.

I respect her as a good woman for youngsters to look up to. She has good values. She's just a bit too squeaky clean for me. I can't put my finger on it. But I think if you stripped back all the fluffiness lights props and dancers at her shows, it would be very very average.

My theory is that she needs all of that in her shows because her voice on its own probably isn't enough.

"her live performances from what I’ve seen on tv really mediocre"

Because you can really judge a live performance from clips on TV (rolls eyes forever)

The Eras live show is phenomenal...and I've only seen the film. Most stadium shows are four blokes on a stage down one end of the pitch. She pretty much uses the whole pitch with a vast stage and the show and effects are amazing.
I saw Simple Minds last week and god, they were dull (we went for the support band). Plodding 80s rock.

I’ve never understood the desire to attend any massive concert tbh. I hate crowds and queuing and what happens if you need the loo. Surely you can’t even here or see much just loads of people screaming.

That prissy comment “I don’t like her music I dont want to listen to it” is hilarious! So you are saying you dont like something you’ve never actually personally experienced?! Utter sheep like behaviour there.

Hahaha mumsnet police, that’s a good one. Maybe start your own thread? It’s annoying reading a post, going to comment and then realising that it’s a zombie thread that someone randomly resurrected….

Why carry on further then mums net police ? It popped up on my watching thread ! I also thought about her recent tour seeing as she's in uk - so on that basis relevant

I'm waiting to be inspired ...so a true fans you're not it ?

I know this comment is a year old but I agree!! I've seen Rammstein live before and the heat from the stage was insane!
They're one of the best bands I've seen live.

Why resurrect a thread that was started nearly a year ago?

I would say I am an anti fan, I don’t get the hype for someone so untalented or good live - I get her prolific songwriting but I find her singing mediocre and her live performances from what I’ve seen on tv really mediocre

I also think it has a lot to do with media hype and her recent struggles with the industry - which I respect her for but damn many black female artists have been talking about that for ages and it’s gone unnoticed

i much prefer Beyoncé and of the newer generation SzA , Ella mai etc - amazing vocalists and performers

I love that song too!

I also really love the history of The Last Great American Dynasty.

I just love all of it.

OP "I do like her new song cruel summer!"

that's 4 years old.

i'm a big fan and old enough to have been there from the start.

currently, I feel every word of Champagne Problems. And he's messaging me rn <cries> ready for me to drop his glass heart all over again.

incredible to be doing an Eras tour at 33. An extraordinary body of work.

Ronan is the song that makes me cry… even more so now that I have two little boys. I just can’t listen to it anymore. Incredible to think that she was only 21 when she wrote it.

Shake it off is to Taylor Swift as Yellow Submarine is to The Beatles, or Fat Bottomed Girls to Queen, or, I dunno… Hump de Bump to the Red Hot Chilli Peppers… well-known, memorable, but if it’s all you’ve heard and you think it is representative of the entire catalogue, or of the writer’s level of lyrical or compositional mastery, and so you’re not bothering to listen to anything else- then you’re missing out, and insisting to everyone else that it’s all crap based on that one example just makes you look a bit foolish.