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Did the captain Tom foundation charity really use the money to build their own spa pool??

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Terryer · 05/07/2023 07:25

Just reading the paper this morning and see the family of Captain Tom have been ordered to pull down a building in their garden with a spa pool. I think it's a planning issue but the inference is that they used the money raised to build it. Did they really?

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Mrsjayy · 05/07/2023 09:15

BitOutOfPractice · 05/07/2023 08:41

I read it on the BBC news site yesterday. I never ever click a DM link. I don’t think this is a story the DM broke.

Exactly other news agency's are available. It's only on mumsnet Is it a thing If you read the daily mail or not !

Tidsleytiddy · 05/07/2023 09:14

Perhaps the newly built spa room will be for NHS employees ie hard-working doctors and nurses but I can’t see it can you

MadamWhiteleigh · 05/07/2023 09:13

What’s Rishi’s pool got to do with anything? It’s his money!

EctopicSpleen · 05/07/2023 09:08

HarrisJu · 05/07/2023 08:58

Well it’s his wife’s pool really.
In the event of a split Rishi would probably come out with less than Heather Mills did from Paul McCartney.
However he’s very comfortable in his own right.

Linda McCartney made ends meet selling meatless sausages. Perhaps he could also do a line of replacement products. hmmm, let's see, how about "I can't believe it's not healthcare" (100% compassion free).

Evenstar · 05/07/2023 09:07

The money Captain Tom raised for NHS Charities Together was definitely above board, I know staff at our local hospital definitely benefited with a garden and wellbeing space.

I think questions are rightly being asked about the money raised by the Captain Tom foundation which is entirely separate and seemingly was controlled by his family and it appears may not have been run in accordance with Charity Commission rules on financial governance.

Givemeallthepasta · 05/07/2023 09:02

The papers are implying that but from what I gather, the family was already quite wealthy but before Major Tom's charity walk. Also they may have inherited money from his estate too.

If there are blurry lines between family and charity money though, I'm sure the Charity Commission will get to the bottom of it. They take a dim view of anything that undermines the public trust in charities.

Frankola · 05/07/2023 08:58

I loved Sir Tom but his daughter has capitalised on his name before I believe? Didn't she get in trouble for "working for him" and giving herself a 100k annual pay?

The application for the latest building was done in the charities name. It was done under the guise of it being an office and it now has a pool and spa in there too...

HarrisJu · 05/07/2023 08:58

EctopicSpleen · 05/07/2023 08:46

It's terrible when people take British public for fools then get away with basking in unearned luxury.
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20612012.rishi-sunaks-huge-swimming-pool-north-yorkshire-pictured/

Well it’s his wife’s pool really.
In the event of a split Rishi would probably come out with less than Heather Mills did from Paul McCartney.
However he’s very comfortable in his own right.

Stressedafff · 05/07/2023 08:57

It did my head in at the time I was bloody sick of hearing about it
I remember BBC’s top story being that he’d completed his 100th lap. Thought it was a con from the get go

butterpuffed · 05/07/2023 08:56

Plbrookes · 05/07/2023 08:05

Unbelievable that there are people set against the idea of a charity making life a bit more pleasant for nurses and patients. Do people genuinely have no compassion?

It isn't about compassion , it's about the fact that they said they were building an office for charities when they clearly weren't .

Jongleterre · 05/07/2023 08:55

They're crooks.

AllIwantforChristmas22 · 05/07/2023 08:54

littleripper · 05/07/2023 07:42

It was a grift which was perfect - so perfect - an anxious public, the NHS, WW2.

100%

all the elements that move the British public to donate!

Yea2023 · 05/07/2023 08:54

Tidsleytiddy · 05/07/2023 08:51

Members of the public shouldn’t have to br raising money for the NHS. It needs to be properly funded by taxes

Or what ⬆️ succinctly said.

Staff well-being areas + tea coffe etc should be a standard supplied feature IMO.

Salacia · 05/07/2023 08:53

Witchinawell · 05/07/2023 08:41

I would never have said this at the time but I never liked the Man ! Something just seemed off. Felt validated when he wrote in his memoirs that he left his first wife as marriage was sexless & went off with a younger wife. Tells you everything you need to know really about this character.

I never quite bought into the kindly old gentleman persona when he was happy to broadcast to the world intimate details of his first marriage. Just didn’t see how it was a necessary or kind thing to do.

Yea2023 · 05/07/2023 08:53

Plbrookes · 05/07/2023 08:05

Unbelievable that there are people set against the idea of a charity making life a bit more pleasant for nurses and patients. Do people genuinely have no compassion?

I’m against quite a bit of charity (not the charity themselves mind but the need for it).

Staff comfort (or public services themselves) shouldn’t be at the mercy of donations/charity, it should be a feature of the service and embedded within the cost.

This ‘feel good’ was at a time when govt was coughing up £££ but not providing PPE and god knows what else.

Tidsleytiddy · 05/07/2023 08:51

EctopicSpleen · 05/07/2023 08:46

It's terrible when people take British public for fools then get away with basking in unearned luxury.
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20612012.rishi-sunaks-huge-swimming-pool-north-yorkshire-pictured/

Disgusting. Wtf does he know about the real world.

LaffTaff · 05/07/2023 08:51

I was sick of the sight of him, he's one of the prevailing faux facade's of the covid era - elderly chap enjoying his restriction induced spare time... In reality, the elderly were dying in their droves of restriction induced isolation and loneliness.

saraclara · 05/07/2023 08:51

User9753224 · 05/07/2023 07:47

I can’t help thinking if everything they’ve done is above board, how terrible and brutal for the family to read this stuff about themselves and be put under the spotlight.

These days I never know what to believe in our press.

The charity's trustees have said that they knew nothing about this build and would never have sanctioned using the organisation's funds for it if they had known about it.

I'm a trustee of a charity myself, and that they've come out and said this is absolutely damning. The trustees are ultimately legally and financially responsible for actions taken in its name. They must be appalled.

Tidsleytiddy · 05/07/2023 08:51

Members of the public shouldn’t have to br raising money for the NHS. It needs to be properly funded by taxes

toomuchlaundry · 05/07/2023 08:49

Wasn’t the money raised for the NHS charities separate to this?

Hdkatznahtw125sgh · 05/07/2023 08:47

Plbrookes · 05/07/2023 08:05

Unbelievable that there are people set against the idea of a charity making life a bit more pleasant for nurses and patients. Do people genuinely have no compassion?

The thing is lots of us in the nhs didn’t see any evidence of this . As an ITU nurse that worked through covid the public fixating on the feel good factor for themselves around this has neither benefitted patients or nursing staff. That isn’t all on what may or not have happened with the charity (the nhs is great at mismanaging money) but don’t use nurses or patients as a way to censor discussion.

It was a morale boost for the public in a lonely and difficult time, it’s difficult for many if it turns out there was/is corruption.

RosaGallica · 05/07/2023 08:46

@Dotjones i don’t think you can compare the “self interest” of those who genuinely want to see a better world for all with the corruption suggested, of one wealthy family using media and publicly donated funds to build a new stately family home!

I do agree that the shift in our society from the idea of a meritocratic public sector funding things for all to a model of wealthy inheriting families “donating” out of the goodness of their hearts, with big plaques to remind everyone of their benevolence, is shit. It was modelled on old imperial values and if it was not always intended to rebuild the mentality of old empires, it was obvious that that was what would happen.

I have always grieved for the shift, and the betrayal of the hope left to us by those who fought a war to stop empire building. We could have had something new.

It was also always bloody stupid given that empires always die and the unavoidable seeds of death for this one, climate and ecological change, were already there.

Tortiemiaw · 05/07/2023 08:46

I'm a bit baffled as to why they had no room in their house. I mean it was hardly a council flat was it?