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Did the captain Tom foundation charity really use the money to build their own spa pool??

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Terryer · 05/07/2023 07:25

Just reading the paper this morning and see the family of Captain Tom have been ordered to pull down a building in their garden with a spa pool. I think it's a planning issue but the inference is that they used the money raised to build it. Did they really?

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FriedEggEverywhere · 09/07/2023 07:27

MargaretThursday · 08/07/2023 22:23

I think this slightly highlights one of the problems with the "Go fund me" charity fundraising.
Before the internet, you'd have asked friends and family. You might have got a little article in the local newspaper (ours always described anyone doing that as "big-hearted" and I remember assuming it meant they were ill because I knew a swollen heart was not a good thing🤣 ) but you were basically asking people who knew you so you had some form of accountability to them.

Now you get one that takes off, like his, and I'll put bets there were similar things going on all over the country, but didn't get the national coverage.

Not really - most people doing local fundraisers/sponsored activities are raising money for large national charities and are in no way personally accountable for how that money got spent. One Captain Tom is not really any different from thousands of individuals doing Race for Life.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 08/07/2023 22:32

Perhaps they didn't actually have pictures of his face on the bottles...

MargaretThursday · 08/07/2023 22:23

I think this slightly highlights one of the problems with the "Go fund me" charity fundraising.
Before the internet, you'd have asked friends and family. You might have got a little article in the local newspaper (ours always described anyone doing that as "big-hearted" and I remember assuming it meant they were ill because I knew a swollen heart was not a good thing🤣 ) but you were basically asking people who knew you so you had some form of accountability to them.

Now you get one that takes off, like his, and I'll put bets there were similar things going on all over the country, but didn't get the national coverage.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 08/07/2023 22:06

Why do they have to be Captain Tom chilly bottles, that's like a form of promotion! Instead of, you know, just chilly bottles.

thenightsky · 08/07/2023 22:03

Our Trust just got given Capt Tom chilly bottles. But only nursing staff.

Swrigh1234 · 08/07/2023 15:54

FixTheBone · 06/07/2023 22:36

Don't diss it. My goody bag with a pair of weird fish socks, 2 teabags and a can of Adidas sport antiperspirant was a godsend on one of the nights I got stuck in covering for covid sickness...

Is this what happens with charity fundraising in the name of the NHS? Crazy. It’s so pathetic you couldn’t make it up.

Samcro · 08/07/2023 11:29

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 05/07/2023 15:54

Watch the GMB Pride of Britain YouTube video if you really want to feel nauseous. The whole thing was hideous and it still shocks me how fast celebs are to jump on a bandwagon and how the public lap it up in droves.

so glad im not the only one who hates that

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 08/07/2023 11:09

Livingtothefull · 08/07/2023 11:06

J'accuzzi.

Nice one 😀

Livingtothefull · 08/07/2023 11:06

J'accuzzi.

drpet49 · 07/07/2023 17:55

Theonlyreason · 06/07/2023 13:05

I never bought it even back during covid. They all looked smug. So what? An old guy doing a few laps in his garden. It never warmed my heart.

Me too.

FriedEggEverywhere · 07/07/2023 12:10

CrazyLadie · 06/07/2023 21:48

Nitvsure about the recruitment company but she either ran or was director of the NHS charity the money went to supposedly to be distributed to support NHS workers

That’s not the case at all.

The original fundraiser was for a pre-existing NHS charity. The same as if you or I did a sponsored walk for Cancer Research or something. All the money went to that charity. To be fair I can imagine suddenly receiving £38m they weren’t expecting created some headaches for the charity so it doesn’t surprise me if it ended up in weird goody bags. That’s a bit by-the-by.

AFTER that original fundraising they set up a charitable foundation in his name with the purpose of raising funds themselves and distributing them via grants to other existing good causes. This not a particularly unusual thing - it’s not uncommon for example for bereaved parents to set up a charitable trust in their child’s name to raise money for causes close to their heart.

What IS unusual is the apparent grifting, financial irregularities at the foundation and capitalising on the name of the charity for personal gain.

FixTheBone · 06/07/2023 22:36

DeliciouslyDecadent · 05/07/2023 09:45

My understanding was that the money was being used for 'goody bags' for nurses, or things like refreshments for them. All very well but I don't think this is what people donated for. They assumed it might be for more staff, scanners, etc.

Don't diss it. My goody bag with a pair of weird fish socks, 2 teabags and a can of Adidas sport antiperspirant was a godsend on one of the nights I got stuck in covering for covid sickness...

Skodacool · 06/07/2023 22:25

Tidsleytiddy · 05/07/2023 08:51

Members of the public shouldn’t have to br raising money for the NHS. It needs to be properly funded by taxes

It was not raised to fund the NHS it was raised to provide extras to make life a bit more pleasant for the staff.

ahunf · 06/07/2023 22:13

Fanofbrianbilston · 06/07/2023 19:34

The whole thing was hysteria fuelled by nationalism and obsession with the military. We shouldn’t have to rely on charity, we have taxes for a reason! Stop it going into private pockets instead of public services.

Strange comment. No one gives a shit about our soldiers. It's a crap life for the families and we are left to get on with it.

CrazyLadie · 06/07/2023 21:48

AgnesNaismith · 05/07/2023 07:45

it was evident from the start, no? Tom wasn’t organising all of that media but was a useful money maker for the family. Remember the children also wrote some sort of book? Didn’t she run a recruitment company? Hmmm.

Nitvsure about the recruitment company but she either ran or was director of the NHS charity the money went to supposedly to be distributed to support NHS workers

ginghamstarfish · 06/07/2023 20:39

Sadly yes it seems some charities are more of an exercise in profit making for the founder's benefit. Another one was that woman (real name Marlene something?) in the Buckingham Palace row, where she was wearing African dress with a made up African name etc... Her complaint drew attention to her charity which also appeared dodgy and was investigated.

HuckingFellHire · 06/07/2023 20:21

The whole thing was absolute cringe

Toomuchtrouble4me · 06/07/2023 20:18

Whatever it was, it killed him. He was out doing interviews when he should have shielding. But I think he died happy.

ILoveMontyDon · 06/07/2023 20:15

There's absolutely no chance I will give money to another 'charity' again. It's not just the fraud that is awful - but the exploitation of feelings of a nation. She should be in jail. But as Mome is still using this earth as her playgrund, I don't hold out much hope. What an absolute bitch.

FriedEggEverywhere · 06/07/2023 20:02

The initial fundraising was for an established NHS charity - really no different from when anyone does a sponsored activity for charity. And let’s face it, most people who, for example, run the London marathon for charity are cashing in by getting a free guaranteed marathon place in exchange for their fundraising.

What happened here was that this got seized upon as a feel-good story at a time when everyone was desperate to unite around something positive. Maybe some canny PR gave it a kick start but I don’t think anyone can have anticipated it becoming a huge as it did.

What is much more shady is what has happened since - with them setting up a charitable foundation themselves with suggestion that it they are benefiting directly or indirectly from that charity. They have certainly capitalised on that initial fundraising effort - the extent to which it’s for legitimate charitable causes vs their own gain remains to be seen.

MeinKraft · 06/07/2023 19:54

Fanofbrianbilston · 06/07/2023 19:34

The whole thing was hysteria fuelled by nationalism and obsession with the military. We shouldn’t have to rely on charity, we have taxes for a reason! Stop it going into private pockets instead of public services.

Also, it was a distraction when there wasn't much else to do except worry.

MeinKraft · 06/07/2023 19:39

MummyJ36 · 05/07/2023 08:07

It was when they took the poor guy to Barbados of all places when he was in his 90s and clearly got in the best health on what was clearly a freebie holiday! They dressed it up like “he’s always wanted to come here!!” Yeah sure!!!

That's when I stopped admiring the whole thing and started thinking wtf. Weren't there still travel restrictions at that time?

Fanofbrianbilston · 06/07/2023 19:34

The whole thing was hysteria fuelled by nationalism and obsession with the military. We shouldn’t have to rely on charity, we have taxes for a reason! Stop it going into private pockets instead of public services.