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Punching boy at school

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BackAgain2023 · 21/06/2023 10:46

Looking for some advice... there's a boy in 6yo DS class who keeps hitting him (and another couple of children) and calling him names. It's been going on off and on since the start of the year. DS tells the teacher each time and has been trying to stay away from him. Previously the teachers had been encouraging everyone to include him but I've given DS permission to not play with him as he won't stop hitting him.
I know the child and his parents well unfortunately so it's quite awkward. I've spoken to the school and I don't feel they're taking it seriously tbh.
DS friends parents have given their wee boy permission to now punch the boy back and they'll deal with any trouble from the school. My husband thinks we should tell DS to do the same thing and that it's just self defence and if the school won't do anything then DS needs to protect himself.
It feels so wrong telling my child to punch someone but maybe this is the only way the boy will leave him alone?
For further info, the boy has no known special needs but has a bit of a chaotic household and siblings with special needs. He seems like a very angry child which is sad but I need to protect my child from being assaulted on a near daily basis.

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VashtaNerada · 29/07/2024 04:05

The best option is to push away and say, “Stop it X!” so an adult can hear. Keep a diary at home of when it happens as well. This can be very helpful to the school, especially if you include what’s happened immediately before and after the child is hitting people. You say there’s no known SEN but it’s relatively rare to get a diagnosis at that age, there may well be one further down the line. There may also be consequences for the child that others aren’t aware of so it’s not certain that he’s getting away with it.
Interesting how many people are referring to the child as a bully. Bullying has a very specific definition which isn’t really being met here. The behaviour is clearly unacceptable but requires something different to the bullying policy.

LondonQueen · 29/07/2024 03:20

As a teacher. tell him to punch back.

Redgreenfroggy · 29/07/2024 02:47

I punched my bully in the nose when I was in year six after she cornered me and started hitting me. She left me alone after that. Wish I had done it four years earlier.

MeouwCat · 29/07/2024 00:20

*Teach him how to box.

umar123 · 29/07/2024 00:19

@ButterCrackers
''The bully’s parents can pay for your babysitting costs''
That's a funny idea lol

umar123 · 28/07/2024 23:50

I love all the posts saying for the child to hit the bully back instead of reporting it to a member of staff🤣

umar123 · 28/07/2024 23:31

EvilElsa · 21/06/2023 11:32

My DS (asd) had this when he was about 8. Boy in his class would repeatedly kick him in the back during floor time. DS would move away, boy would follow and continue. One day DS just had enough, turned around and punched him in the face. When I was told I backed DS all the way. Boy never did it again. Problem solved. DS is now late teens and the most gentle soul, has never ever hit again or even had an argument. Everyone has their breaking point.

What a move from an 8 year old

AllyCart · 23/06/2023 23:51

Soapyspuds · 23/06/2023 22:44

Primary school children are not going to kill another child by punching them

The punch is not the problem. A subsequent falling and hitting your head as a result most cetainly can.

Far more likely to fall and hit their head from being forcefully pushed which is what many are advocating as the way to deal with the bully.

A punch in the face from a young child is extremely unlikely to have enough force to floor the bully but would hopefully bust their lip or smash their nose, etc.

Soapyspuds · 23/06/2023 22:44

Primary school children are not going to kill another child by punching them

The punch is not the problem. A subsequent falling and hitting your head as a result most cetainly can.

Soapyspuds · 23/06/2023 22:41

The boy quite badly hurt another child yesterday. No doctors required but an ice pack and had to be collected from school early. After that he still had the chance to kick my son and to try and punch him

This is sounding really serious. I would be looking at forming an action group and getting a group of people in front of the head teacher. It is only a matter of time before he hits somebody that falls badly and gets seriously hurt.

Do they have facilities to get this kid on solitary confinement?

Lachimolala · 23/06/2023 14:45

BackAgain2023 · 23/06/2023 13:36

The boy quite badly hurt another child yesterday. No doctors required but an ice pack and had to be collected from school early. After that he still had the chance to kick my son and to try and punch him.

I’m the very opposite of combative and confrontational. I’m actually a bit wet and people pleasey, but the way I would blow up at the school for allowing this to continue would be one of epic proportions. This is just not okay, your child has a right to be safe in his school and it’s the schools job to safeguard their students! They’re failing at that evidently.

This child clearly isn’t going to stop so I think you’d need to really kick off or take it further. I’m unsure where you could turn to if there’s no governor’s though? That makes it very difficult. Maybe you and the other hurt child’s parents could work together to make the complaint?

BackAgain2023 · 23/06/2023 13:36

The boy quite badly hurt another child yesterday. No doctors required but an ice pack and had to be collected from school early. After that he still had the chance to kick my son and to try and punch him.

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AllyCart · 22/06/2023 11:51

After years of bullying , one of my DS's thumped the bully in the head and literally nearly killed him. It is easy to cause horrific injury by punching someone.

  1. Primary school children are not going to kill another child by punching them.
  2. It's a risky business being a bully. Live by the sword, etc...
SlippySarah · 21/06/2023 23:51

DS couldn't have effectively hit back as he was a lot smaller and lighter and would not have been confident to do it. The only choice I had was to blow up at the school. It helps that I'm a confident professional able to assert myself with headteachers, I realise not everyone wants to do that.

Didicat · 21/06/2023 23:48

We’ve had similar and the way to get the teachers/TA any adults notice is to touch that safeguarding butto in their heads. No need to shout but need to be a clear direct loud voice - “Stop It, Don’t touch me, I don’t like it » you need a phrase that gets the teacher to spin round and draw attention to that child. Normally children do not want an adults negative attention- but the teachers capturing the moment rather than a he said she said is so much more powerful.

SlippySarah · 21/06/2023 23:46

My DS was punched hard on a few occasions by the same boy in year 2. DS is quite small and this other boy was a bit of a thug overall. Each time I came down hard on the school - speaking to the teacher, sending emails, demanding that my son was kept safe in school. Threatening to report to ofsted as a safeguarding concern. On one of the occasions he split my sons lip. The school took it seriously and it stopped.

SoShallINever · 21/06/2023 23:42

AllyCart · 21/06/2023 18:08

On the contrary. Hitting a violent bully is the best way to deal with them.

Do you not care about the long term effects on the victim's mental state from repeated bullying? There are so many adults out there whose whole lives have been blighted by childhood bullying which completely ruined their confidence and mental health.

I will bet you any amount that there are far, far more people out there who dearly wish they'd been encouraged to fight back against childhood bullies than who wish they hadn't.

No, no, no, please be very careful with this approach.
After years of bullying , one of my DS's thumped the bully in the head and literally nearly killed him. It is easy to cause horrific injury by punching someone.
I think the right thing to do is to shout loudly and push them away.

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 21/06/2023 23:36

SoupDragon · 21/06/2023 14:57

Teaching them to hit back is reinforcing that hitting someone is OK.

Pushing them away and shouting is a better option and absolutely doesn't teach them that the bully is more important and it isn't "appeasing" the bully.

no good ever comes from hitting someone.

I think many PPs on this thread would disagree. Me included.

PimmsandCucumbers · 21/06/2023 23:34

Just read your last update - if the school can’t/won’t - you honestly need to change schools.

PimmsandCucumbers · 21/06/2023 23:33

You need to escalate this!

Teacher, Deputy Head, Head and if no joy the Board of Governors and everything else. Communicate formally in writing, get back up. Be all over it.

I don’t think telling a kid to hit back is the answer, although in self defence I wouldn’t blame you or a kid but in reality this isn’t the way to sort it. By its very nature aggression is chaotic and causes harm - so he could end up being punched back or god knows.

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 21/06/2023 23:28

This happened to my son a few years ago. A boy kept kicking him on purpose when playing football. I told him next time push him to the ground. He did and it stopped immediately. They're mates now.

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 21/06/2023 23:28

This happened to my son a few years ago. A boy kept kicking him on purpose when playing football. I told him next time push him to the ground. He did and it stopped immediately. They're mates now.

Soapyspuds · 21/06/2023 23:11

we practiced him pushing me away and shouting. We'll keep practicing every day

Sorry but pushing is not effective. It is neither a surprise or painful and as somebody above said can result in a scrap.

BackAgain2023 · 21/06/2023 22:35

I have already told DS he's to stay away from him.
The boy kicked DS again today and really hurt another boy.
we practiced him pushing me away and shouting. We'll keep practicing every day.

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BackAgain2023 · 21/06/2023 22:33

strawberry2017 · 21/06/2023 20:42

If your friendly with the parents then you need to speak to them. I get it's awkward but your son comes first and you need to tell them it needs sorting otherwise you will be telling your son to steer clear of him.

Theres honestly no point in speaking to them. They know he hits kids. It's very chaotic, I won't go into detail but they won't / can't do anything about it.

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