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Selfish husband?

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PomPomQueen1 · 13/06/2023 21:34

Life with my husband and daughter was great and he’s a very hands on Dad but being an only child myself, I was desperate to give daughter a sibling. My husband felt strongly against it saying he didn’t want to disrupt our happy life but after many tense conversations and me promising to do everything with the baby, he agreed to it.

Second daughter was born when first daughter was 3 years.
He idolises our first daughter but has held me to our promise and has extremely little to do with our second baby daughter.

Baby daughter who is very happy and chilled is now 8 months and in that time I have done every single feed and gone to every single cry. I have left him to look after baby only a handful of times for a maximum of an hour.
He has not had one disrupted nights sleep. She wakes up for a formula bottle feed twice a night.

He says he can’t mentally cope with the baby so goes to the gym and out for a drink with friends approx. 4 times a week.

He is still very hands on with our first daughter. I cannot fault this relationship.

I work Mon-Fri (30 hours a week) and love my job. I put both children to bed each night and get both ready for nursery in the morning.
Husband is good around the house and always cooks for me when he’s in.

Tonight we had an argument. He asked me what was wrong and I said I’m knackered, I’m doing all the hard jobs. He doesn’t agree and is refusing to talk to me. I feel like after several other arguments, we’re on the brink of divorce. He always ends the argument with… ‘You’re the one who did this to us. You wanted the baby’.

Am I being unreasonable as I begged for a second and promised to do everything with the baby?
He says he loves baby but it seems like he resents her which makes me so sad.

I’m trying to stick to my promise and put his feelings and mental health first for the sake of keeping our family unit together but he feels I’m doing the opposite. I feel so unsupported. Why doesn’t he want to support me when he can see I’m low. I just can’t help but feel he’s being extremely selfish!

We have no family close to us (6 hours away) which doesn’t help. We never have a babysitter and I never have ‘me time’.

Not sure what I’m expecting from posting this but feels good to vent.

OP posts:
ironorchids · 15/06/2023 19:22

You should sit down with DH and ask him, if he really loves DD1 then what behaviour do you think he is modelling for her?
What blueprint are you and he setting out for her for her future relationships?

She's three, so she will see mum doing all the work with the baby while dad goes out, dad doting on the 3 year old while ignoring the baby and letting his partner suffer.

If he really really loves your first daughter, he needs to consider very carefully how this upbringing will affect her future relationships with men and how they can treat her in a relationship. He is in a fantasist dreamland if he thinks it will have no effect and he needs this to be pointed out to him.

No matter how he feels about the first child, he is causing a lot of damage to the first child that he supposedly is a good father too by willingly ignoring the other child and her mother's burden of all the work.

BurbageBrook · 15/06/2023 19:21

He's an arsehole. It doesn't matter if you pressured him into it, the fact is the baby is here and he is punishing an innocent child.

Oliotya · 15/06/2023 19:12

He needs to grow up. Who "wanted" the baby is irrelevant, he knowingly created it and so is responsible for it.
If he doesn't step up, you need to leave. Your child can't grow up in that environment.

3AndStopping · 15/06/2023 19:11

I think your DP is being a selfish twat, personally. Does he have no compassion/emotion? Fine he relented and agreed but he still agreed to another baby.

We had 2 young DC’s, I then got unexpectedly pregnant with our third. DP was adamant he didn’t want another baby (I didn’t either really) but after much soul searching I couldn’t abort her. She’s here now & 2. DH loves her just as much as the other 2 & is as involved as he was with the ‘planned’ children. I’d think a lot less of him as a person if he’d been a big baby about it.

Life happens, we adapt. He needs to stop being selfish and put his child’s needs before his own.

3luckystars · 15/06/2023 19:05

A few of my friends cut a similar deal with their husband for the last baby. You would think the dad would melt when they see the baby and help, but no.

how long did you say you would do everything until, 18 months or 18 years?

you need a counsellor, you both feel shafted and are not seeing the other side. Communication breakdown and resentment which is understandable. Get counselling.
Good luck. I wish you well.

Tigofigo · 15/06/2023 19:04

He's being a stubborn tit and needs to sort his shit out because he has two daughters and a wife he should be caring about.

But you created this situation. So ultimately, YABU.

JudgeRudy · 15/06/2023 18:59

Well you're unreasonable having a child with someone whobdidnt want one and thinking somehow it'll all be OK. He's unreasonable for giving in to your stupid demands.
He's kept his deal, you've kept yours but now because you and the baby are loosing out you've changed your mind.
He's right, you did this.

NotEverORNever · 15/06/2023 18:58

This is such a sad situation. You were crazy to have had a second child with him but I understand just how powerful the urge to have babies is. Look at all the Mumsnet threads where women have babies with terrible partners or where there are other reasons that it's a really dumb decision.

The situation is what it is, it's hard to say what's the best thing to do. Whatever you do you need to put your kids first. I don't think arguing over your second daughter or criticising his behaviour is going to help him bond with her though. I'm going to get crucified for this suggestion but what about stopping making any negative comments about his behaviour around the baby and riding things out until she is older and more interesting to him?
From a feminist point of view that will feel like a shit thing to do but maybe it would be in your daughters best interest? It's not unusual to struggle to bond with babies. I'd be hopeful he will come around when she is older. I don't know though.

If he continues to not bond with her then you will have to leave him. I can't see any other option.

cushioncovers · 15/06/2023 18:56

Wow what a sad situation all around op. there is no magic answer in my mind. You have just got to keep going and hope that he warms to your other daughter and if he doesn't then you'll need to end the marriage before it damages your second child life.

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 15/06/2023 18:55

Jesus Christ. Both of you are ridiculous.

I just feel sorry for the second kid who's going to have a dad that doesn't love them! Very stupid of you to have a baby with someone who didn't want another though.

lechatnoir · 15/06/2023 18:48

Sounds like a brilliant excuse for him to do nothing and will be thrown back in your face forever more. Couples therapy or split for the sake of your 2nd child because they WILL notice and it WILL fuck them up.

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:44

PaigeMatthews · 15/06/2023 18:36

How do men get a woman pregnant and not have a say in whether a woman gets pregnant?

Men may not wish to have a child but once their sexual partner is pregnant they no longer have a say about whether the pregnancy becomes a living child, is that more clear?
I think posters are rather missing the point of the comparison I was drawing. It's not about supporting feckless dads that's for sure!

Debini · 15/06/2023 18:41

You are both selfish, you for pushing him into something he didn’t want and him for not stepping up and doing the right thing by this child.

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 15/06/2023 18:37

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:28

Many men don't want to have a child, but due to getting a woman pregnant they don't have a say in this. Is it ok for them to not give a damn about the child that results, because they didn't want it in the first place? And if not, what's different about this case?

The men should wear a condom or abstain from sex or get the snip then shouldn't they.

PaigeMatthews · 15/06/2023 18:36

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:28

Many men don't want to have a child, but due to getting a woman pregnant they don't have a say in this. Is it ok for them to not give a damn about the child that results, because they didn't want it in the first place? And if not, what's different about this case?

How do men get a woman pregnant and not have a say in whether a woman gets pregnant?

PaigeMatthews · 15/06/2023 18:35

Ash099 · 13/06/2023 22:05

I just dont think many men have the baby maternal urges that we do. Some of them are just incapable of being around a baby but can happily deal with older baby/ toddler.

What utter sexist shit.

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:35

Are we talking at cross purposes? If a woman is pg, she doesn't have to give the father of the child any part in her decision to keep/not keep the baby. She might choose to, but she certainly doesn't have to!
We would still judge a man who had a baby in these circumstances for not being a loving father to his child.

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 15/06/2023 18:33

I think this will work out fine when she's older. But in the meantime you're going to have to suck it up and stick to the deal you made and yeah, it's gonna be very hard graft, but you knew that when you said you wanted to do it.

Funnily enough I knew a couple who made the same deal and they stuck to it into the daughter's 20s. He had a great relationship with both girls but he didn't help with any of work involved even when they were young adults.

Daffodil92 · 15/06/2023 18:32

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:28

Many men don't want to have a child, but due to getting a woman pregnant they don't have a say in this. Is it ok for them to not give a damn about the child that results, because they didn't want it in the first place? And if not, what's different about this case?

Don’t be ridiculous, men always have a say.

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:28

Many men don't want to have a child, but due to getting a woman pregnant they don't have a say in this. Is it ok for them to not give a damn about the child that results, because they didn't want it in the first place? And if not, what's different about this case?

Daffodil92 · 15/06/2023 18:27

If he was SO against it, he should have never agreed to a second. What he’s done is fucking cruel. Of course you’d assume he would naturally love a second child. I feel so sorry for your youngest daughter. What a cunt he is.

MoreCoffeeAndCake · 15/06/2023 18:24

You are where you are, not how I (or most of the posters here) would have dealt with having a second DC.

Why don't you have a babysitter? Give yourself a break and book one, get some time to yourself and recharge.

When you're feeling more rested, think about your future and how to bring up both your DC in a happy home.

It's not just your youngest being damaged if you all carry on as you are - your eldest is too. She can see dad doesn't want to spend time with the baby. She'll sub-consciously realise her dad doesn't like her sister. You will be over compensating with the youngest, whether you realise you're doing it or not, you'll be doing it.

ATeamsvan · 15/06/2023 18:22

How he treats you is one thing. But to not show love and care to his own child is a dick move

Quitelikeit · 15/06/2023 18:20

I think it is pathetic and childish how this man is punishing you.

It is appalling how he lacks interest in your new daughter.

Resentment is like drinking your own poison and oh boy does he like poison.

Working 30 hours a week with two young children is very taxing even without the night feeds.

Im not sure I could hold it together the way you are managing to. He needs to do some more jobs around the house and we’ll going out four times a week!!

grrrr that is a disgrace an absolute disgrace. Where is he going?

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