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To wonder how I'll sell my house (neighbours)

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Hudhud35 · 11/06/2023 16:29

We want to move - however we cannot afford the £300k price tag of a new build (so we cannot sell to them) nor can we afford to do a 'we buy any house' thing.

Our house is an decent sized 3 (double) bed semi detached in a cheap (poor) area of town. Houses up and down the street sell ok - however our house is next to some really scummy people.

They're currently on the front garden, drinking, with cans of beer and rubbish strewn all over the garden and their back garden would put Steptoe to shame. They don't work so there always there - smoking weed, swearing and generally being antisocial. I'm also pretty sure someone is living on the front garden.

Last year we had an issue with their kids (preteen and 20 something) playing loud music but that seems to have stopped (for now) after numerous complaints from multiple neigbours (so we have to declare a dispute).

I will say they very much keep themselves to themselves but they just look a complete state but they really dont care about the disgusting state they live in.

I for one would never have purchased the house if they lived here when I purchased but the council evicted the tenants before and brought these in.

How am I going to sell it? Would someone buy it - maybe who hasn't got the budget for a nice area but needs a bigger family home?

Not interested in hearing 'I wouldn't buy it' as neither would I! But will someone?

OP posts:
Upwiththelark76 · 11/06/2023 19:00

Firstly report them for anti social behaviour and keep reporting.
Report the state of the garden .
complain to your local councillors .
We had similar scenerio and they ended up getting evicted .

SparkyBlue · 11/06/2023 18:55

OP put it up for sale and then see how it goes. Someone from the area might buy it and not be not be bothered about the neighbours (this often happens in my mums estate)

Skodacool · 11/06/2023 18:52

Complain to the council. If they evicted the previous tenants they could surely evict these.

JusthereforXmas · 11/06/2023 18:43

To be honest if I liked the house and it was a good price I wouldn't care.

What stood out to me is the phrase 'they keep themselves to themselves' and thats EXACTLY what I like in a neighbor.

I dont care about their landscaping skills, their career path or such... the only thing that would put me off from what you said is noise (I have young kids who go to bed at 8).

Frankly the best neighbors I have had weren't too far off what you describe (unemployed childless partiers who sat on the step drinking and smoking all day but where always respectful, generous and friendly to us for the whole 3 years we lived there).

The worst neighbor I ever had was a 'successful career & family man' who was an utter sexist psycho control freak, who thought because I'm a little lady he could force me to live under his 'rules' as if I was a child (and you should have heard the way he spoke to his wife & kids, thin walls I could hear it all).

Books covers rarely tell the whole story.

unsync · 11/06/2023 18:43

If it's Council / Housing Assoc tenants, can you approach them to see if they would want to buy your half? From a portfolio point of view, owning both halves of a semi makes good sense with regard to maintenance etc.

Greentree1 · 11/06/2023 18:39

Are you sure you couldn't do a we buy any house type thing, you won't get top price but you're not going to anyway, have you got any quotes? As said above try in the winter when neighbours won't be so visible and it should go through quickly. Or sell as a potential BTL or as a potential HMO.

Lifeomars · 11/06/2023 18:37

Fluffyhoglets · 11/06/2023 17:54

Sell it to a landlord if possible.
The council won't be able to evict them easily anyway so if you want to leave dont report it and start a dispute.
Ask again if they will buy it back- some councils are using the right to buy money to buy back ex council housing.

Contact estate agents who have to let signs up on the estate as they will have the landlords on the books.

BTL has destroyed the area I live in, of course a landlord will buy it and you can escape, I wish I could.

Beseen22 · 11/06/2023 18:34

You just have to put it on the market priced to sell. We had this, I spent hours scrubbing the close, painting the external door (that my neighbour kicked in everytime she forgot her keys), powerwashing the garden and laying gravel and making the shared garden look nice. Had to move a neighbours crack pipe and dispose of a few needles in the process. It took 4 months and only had 2 viewings but a young single guy bought it and to be fair it was a beautiful flat before we had kids...the neighbours kept themselves to themselves but didn't want to be taking my DS out to nursery and bumping into neighbours 'clients' on the way out anymore.

Lifeomars · 11/06/2023 18:31

YoSof · 11/06/2023 18:18

This. You catch more flies with honey….

This sounds fine in theory, wouldn't work with my neighbours, they cannot speak English and live in a very different way. I have a friend who has horrendous neighbours, they deal drugs, shout and yell til the early hours, burn rubbish regularly. Her polite requests asking them to keep the noise down had just resulted in them making even more noise and they mock her and things are now even worse. Just be aware that some people simply are not reasonable and think that when they are at home they can do exactly as they please and not care about the effect on others. It's worth a try but I hope it doesn't backfire

whynotwhatknot · 11/06/2023 18:30

dont bother with the council my friend complained abut the noise nextdoor to her various times they gave her something to record sound-eventually they turned in down but then started letting their dog shit in the communal garden

nothing was done about that and an extra person was living there who wasnt supposed to be they done bugger all

Lifeomars · 11/06/2023 18:26

This is my problem too, the house next to me is a BTL and now an unofficial HMO with at least 10 adults crammed in a two up two down, they make money by collecting and selling scrap, the noise and the mess has nearly caused me to have a breakdown, council are investigating now. The only way I could sell my house is to another BTL landlord and anyway I cannot afford to move to ab better area. I have learnt a very hard lesson as to the extent that problem neighbours can affect your life and you have my sympathy. I think the advice about waiting until the dark nights arrive again is good, at least your neighbours should be inside more. I had a high fence put up, it really makes a difference, the mess is now not visible from my home and that is a small mercy

Stayeduptoolateagain · 11/06/2023 18:19

S72 · 11/06/2023 17:16

The council tenants will have terms within their tenancy agreement. If they are breaking those terms, you need to make a complaint to the council/housing management company. Record every incident of anti-social behaviour and report it. Hopefully the council will start to take action.

We are the same situation with our neighbours. I have considered doing this. However, I thought that when you sell, you have to declare any problems with neighbours, including complaints made to landlords, to the seller. Am I incorrect?

YoSof · 11/06/2023 18:18

3girls1boy1puppy · 11/06/2023 18:11

Go next door, be super polite and explain your situation. Offer to pay for a gardener to tidy up their front and back garden, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t say no to a freebie. Then depending on how reasonable they are - you could ask them if you could let them know when viewings are happening and ask if they could not be in the front garden when viewings take place. If they do it the first time make sure you take round a bottle of wine and hope that they keep it up.
As others have said start getting it marketed at the end of summer ready for autumn/winter.

This. You catch more flies with honey….

3girls1boy1puppy · 11/06/2023 18:11

Go next door, be super polite and explain your situation. Offer to pay for a gardener to tidy up their front and back garden, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t say no to a freebie. Then depending on how reasonable they are - you could ask them if you could let them know when viewings are happening and ask if they could not be in the front garden when viewings take place. If they do it the first time make sure you take round a bottle of wine and hope that they keep it up.
As others have said start getting it marketed at the end of summer ready for autumn/winter.

Nowwheresmykeys · 11/06/2023 18:10

I had an aunt with awful anti social neighbour's, never thought she'd sell..eventually a buy to rent landlord purchased it at below market price, stating he had ways and means of dealing with people like Aunts neighbour's, and was fairly confident he and his 'business partners' could persuade them to shape up or leave.

You'll sell OP, some investors like the challenge of dealing with this kind of thing if the price is right.

kittensinthekitchen · 11/06/2023 18:07

Spamlla · 11/06/2023 16:46

Someone will buy it for cheap but the price will reflect the bad neighbours. This situation is always a risk when you buy next to a council house unfortunately.

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BirdChirp · 11/06/2023 18:06

BirdChirp · 11/06/2023 17:51

Agree with offering to pay to clear their garden, and selling in autumn / winter.

I lived next to hellish neighbours and when selling really wondered how low I would have to go. They had the flat above me - the smell of smoke and dog shit seeped out of it, the shared alley way to the gardens was a mess (they wouldn't let me get rid of the pile of rotting wood and rusty bbq they had). Worst of all was they had 2 large dogs that thundered up and down barking for 20 minutes when anyone knocked on my door, it was like they were in my flat.

I had 2 offers, who both dropped out, then a 3rd offer that went through. I probably lost 10% of the value I could have had but it was absolutely worth it to move on.

Forgot part of my post. I asked the neighbours to keep the dog noise down while I did viewings. She shrugged and said nothing she could do (they never walked them). I was fuming. Regardless, the week after, nice as pie, I went around with a bunch of flowers to 'thank them for trying with the dogs the last week, I could hear the difference'. They did make some effort after that - they were just inclined to oppose anything I 'demanded' but being warm worked better. Completely fake as it was.

Strawberrydelight78 · 11/06/2023 18:01

They can make them clean up they're garden though. It should be part of they're tenancy it is mine. They don't work so no excuse not to.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 11/06/2023 18:00

Fallulah · 11/06/2023 17:44

If you’ve already had a genuine dispute that you will have to declare (any complaint you’ve made to them in writing or any complaint to an authority) then I would just go the whole hog and keep reporting them to their housing association, especially if the garden is attracting rats or there is someone living in the garden.

You're going to have to declare it anyway, you might as well get them forced to clear it up. Then you can list it later in the year when it’s colder and they aren’t outside and say, yes we did make a complaint, it was about their unkempt garden which is now sorted.

We’re buying a house (or trying to) at the moment, and we drive by at all times of day to try and get a feel for an area. More fool any buyers of yours if they don’t do this.

My DM is looking to do a purchase and then rent it out on a council house near where we live, she’s driven past a lot and I’ve walked/driven through the area a few times to get a feel for the street and houses. Luckily on the whole it seems really nice!

FrostyFifi · 11/06/2023 18:00

Maybe just try and get the timing right, so put it on the market late autumn so you have a good few months to conclude a sale. It's a long winter we have in the UK so fingers crossed that'll be enough time.

EffortlessDesmond · 11/06/2023 17:59

The new EPC rules for landlords are a deathknell for BTL deals. They aren't active yet, but prohibiting letting anything below a C rating is going to bring a lot of BTL property back for sale, Basically, only owner-occupiers are going to be allowed to live in energy sub-standard buildings.

Clymene · 11/06/2023 17:57

Buy to let

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 11/06/2023 17:57

A friend of a friend of mine was trying to sell her council house with nightmare neighbours, various disputes and she hated them including their 3 large dogs!

In the end after having a few viewings where buyers noticed the neighbours she spoke to the mother of the house, explained she really wanted to move, was sorry for all the bad blood in the past but that buyers were being put off and therefore not offering on the house. Miraculously the family upped their game, behaved and kept dogs quieter and even she did same as other poster here, said she was getting garden tidied and did they want theirs doing which they accepted. One of the next families/people who viewed were buying as a BTL anyway but put in an offer. The sickening thing is that the original nightmare family moved a year later anyway!

SongThrushFeather · 11/06/2023 17:57

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Please don’t do this OP - it would be really unfair on the people who are looking to buy. They have a right to know what the neighbours are like.

PrinceHaz · 11/06/2023 17:55

Namechangedforthis2244 · 11/06/2023 17:27

I’d knock on the door before it goes on the market and say to them “we’ve got a gardner coming next week to do our garden because we’re putting the house up for sale. Would you like him to do your garden for free?”

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Do their garden up in September then start marketing so you’ve got till May before they sit out again.

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