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Another dog attack

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Unsure33 · 07/06/2023 19:04

There is a horrific video on twitter of a young woman being attacked in east London by three dogs

owner in hoodie , pit bull types .

I am a dog owner but also have ended up in hospital after a dog attack and it made me feel sick

honestly I think we need dog licences , dog wardens and more accountability because the current laws don’t seem to be deterring people letting dogs off their leads and having no control . If it prices some owners out I am sorry tough luck . Dogs are expensive and there needs to be some more incentive to keep them under control .

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RudsyFarmer · 07/06/2023 19:32

*few days ago.

RudsyFarmer · 07/06/2023 19:31

I agree. I listened to an expert talking on the radio a few years ago saying the XL bullies in particular are a very dangerous cross breed. They are being genetically altered all the time through select breeding to make them more muscular. They tend to go for the throat and will rip the windpipe out.

There is no way in absolute hell I’d be trusting those dogs around my kids. I’ve noticed the one that used to be tied outside the school gate in the morning is no longer in the school run. I don’t know if the owner decided it was best not to or if the school made that decision.

Elysiaxo · 07/06/2023 19:31

Supernova23 · 07/06/2023 19:28

Include the Staffie and English Bull Terrier on the dangerous dogs list 😂😂😂

Look at dog bite statistics. Cocker Spaniels, Dachshunds, not a Bull Terrier in sight.

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I understand what you're saying, but I think when people say 'dangerous' they're referring to the potential lethality of the dog, not the number of bites.

You can be attacked 100 times by a dachshund and come away with minor, surface injuries. However it only takes 1 attack by a bull terrier to kill.

ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood · 07/06/2023 19:30

Sunny egg.

Agree.

I googled the petition though and its didn come up unfortunately. If anyones can link it again please do.

But... This id a chat forum so our chats don't really achieve much no.

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Unsure33 · 07/06/2023 19:30

aloofflooty · 07/06/2023 19:27

God, this is SO true.

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Yes I agree . The money could pay for more dog wardens or to pay for criminal prosecutions of the owners . Dogs are not status symbols .

how do we start a gov petition or is there one going ?

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DogInATent · 07/06/2023 19:29

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 19:24

I signed a petition linked on here I’d recommend

Not sure I can link.

But google

Amend the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 by including more dog breeds to be bannedAmend current list of banned dog breeds (currently 4) by adding the following breeds: American Bully - all kinds (XL, Extreme, Pocket, Standard, Classic), Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier (incl. Miniature).

BSL is the problem, not the solution.

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 19:29

Fair enough. It doesn’t bother me about Staffys

But I’m for raising the general issue with a petition as these threads won’t do much

People can start a new one if not right

MinionsHooray · 07/06/2023 19:28

Son dogs should just be banned full stop.

Why the hell has he got 3?!

Supernova23 · 07/06/2023 19:28

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 19:24

I signed a petition linked on here I’d recommend

Not sure I can link.

But google

Amend the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 by including more dog breeds to be bannedAmend current list of banned dog breeds (currently 4) by adding the following breeds: American Bully - all kinds (XL, Extreme, Pocket, Standard, Classic), Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier (incl. Miniature).

Include the Staffie and English Bull Terrier on the dangerous dogs list 😂😂😂

Look at dog bite statistics. Cocker Spaniels, Dachshunds, not a Bull Terrier in sight.

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Unsure33 · 07/06/2023 19:27

Comedycook · 07/06/2023 19:22

Yanbu. Today I walked past an XL bully dog (pulling at its lead) being walked by a very small teenage girl....dog would have definitely weighed more than her. Its actually quite terrifying.

It is . I don’t let my dogs off the lead in public places and that’s because they are over friendly so technically I don’t fully have them under control off the lead but someone near me had a very nasty bite from a rescue Akita off the lead . They had only had the dog a week ? What were they thinking ?

i cant post the video atm as it was too triggering for me . If it had been a child I hate to think what would have been the result .

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aloofflooty · 07/06/2023 19:27

PuffinsRocks · 07/06/2023 19:24

It's not about hating dogs, it's about keeping people safe.
Honestly I've said it before but watching the British reaction to every new dog attack is like watching Americans every time they have another gun attack at a school. Everyone hand wrings and says it's so tragic and that something needs to be done and nothing gets done because fundamentally people see it as their right to have a dangerous dog.
People are not responsible enough to have dogs, dogs need licencing.

God, this is SO true.

ClusterFuckIt · 07/06/2023 19:27

I wouldn’t sign anything that included proper old school Staffys banned either tbh.

Justgorgeous · 07/06/2023 19:25

The video is horrific. Does anyone know if the woman is okay ?

Elevel · 07/06/2023 19:25

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 19:24

I signed a petition linked on here I’d recommend

Not sure I can link.

But google

Amend the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 by including more dog breeds to be bannedAmend current list of banned dog breeds (currently 4) by adding the following breeds: American Bully - all kinds (XL, Extreme, Pocket, Standard, Classic), Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier (incl. Miniature).

I wouldn't sign anything trying to get Staffies banned.

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 19:25

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

Just hide the threads. No one will mind

PuffinsRocks · 07/06/2023 19:24

It's not about hating dogs, it's about keeping people safe.
Honestly I've said it before but watching the British reaction to every new dog attack is like watching Americans every time they have another gun attack at a school. Everyone hand wrings and says it's so tragic and that something needs to be done and nothing gets done because fundamentally people see it as their right to have a dangerous dog.
People are not responsible enough to have dogs, dogs need licencing.

Allblackeverythingalways · 07/06/2023 19:24

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

I own and adore dogs and I agree with OP.
There needs to be some accountability. I'm fed up of dickheads letting their zero recall, badly trained status symbols off the lead and letting everyone else deal with the consequences.
I've seen that video, she must have been absolutely terrified. He had zero control. Those dogs should be destroyed and he should be banned from ever owning a dog again.

Elevel · 07/06/2023 19:24

I think it's the same poster under a name change. I have also noticed a spate of these threads in AIBU, when there's no "AIBU?" involved. The amount of irresponsible owners is awful, but I don't understand the need to point out every attack when the news is there for everyone to watch/read. Or at least put it in Chat.

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 19:24

I signed a petition linked on here I’d recommend

Not sure I can link.

But google

Amend the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 by including more dog breeds to be bannedAmend current list of banned dog breeds (currently 4) by adding the following breeds: American Bully - all kinds (XL, Extreme, Pocket, Standard, Classic), Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier (incl. Miniature).

GeraltsBathtub · 07/06/2023 19:24

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

Hmm it’s hardly being a ‘dog hater’ to express a wish to cut down on the increasing number of fatal dog attacks. If there weren’t as many useless owners attacks, you wouldn’t be seeing as many posts on this.
ClusterFuckIt · 07/06/2023 19:24

Elysiaxo · 07/06/2023 19:20

I don't think ALL dog breeds and owners should be punished, but I think all dogs originally bred for fighting should require licences and mandatory training to own.

Thinking ego bull breed dogs have no place in society does not make a person a dog hater. I’ve had dogs all my life, I love dogs!

Withnailandeye · 07/06/2023 19:23

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

I am an absolute avid dog lover, I own several and I fully support the OP, as would you if you were a responsible dog owner or had seen the footage. It’s fucking terrifying this happened, and it is becoming more frequent.

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Unsure33 · 07/06/2023 19:23

I am not a dog hater I am a dog lover , but these irresponsible owners are getting the rest of us a bad name something has to be done . Is that not what mumsnet is for to try and get things changed ? No licence dog taken , no insurance, dog taken , no chip dog taken .

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dudsville · 07/06/2023 19:22

It's not dog hating. I have and love dogs, as do many of my friends and family. These are animals in the wrong hands and something should be done about it.

ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood · 07/06/2023 19:22

@IsThereAnEchoInHere

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I don't hate dogs at all, i absolutely adore them. But I like dogs who are gentle breeds and if they did turn, they ain't kill or maim like these killer dogs.