Another dog attack

@Prescottdanni123 I don't know if you meant to tag me, but I agree with you. I've mostly owned Staffies which is why I said I wouldn't sign a petition aiming to ban them.
I do think the majority (at least) of dog attacks are the fault of the owner. I know more than one pitbull owner and would never dream of reporting them! The dogs are lovely, I've come across more aggressive terriers.
I would happily own many banned breeds if it wasn't illegal, most make brilliant family dogs if trained and handled properly.

All dogs are descend from wolves.

@Unsure33 the law already says dogs must be chipped. They must be under control in public. If a person feels they could be injured by a dog then it’s deemed dangerous and can be taken.
The law is there. But it isn’t working.
@ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood dogs aren’t wolves.

You do know it is not the dog's fault? I'd happily see the stocks being brought back and the owners put in them

Might not be the dog's "fault" in the sense of human intent but they're the ones doing the biting, and the ones that will continue to pose a danger until they are destroyed.

There's no point targeting ALL dog owners and breeds though. It would never go through parliament and would be impossible to police.

Specific breeds should be targeted with licences and mandatory training.

I think the breeding and sale of
dogs needs to be controlled. Breeders need to homecheck and ensure the potential owners can meet the needs of that dog. Owners need to be educated on the law and their responsibility as owners. Training should be mandatory.

@FrostyFifi

You do know it is not the dog's fault? I'd happily see the stocks being brought back and the owners put in them.

@CombatBarbie
So... Dogs are cute and cuddly and that's why were call them man's best friend.

Yes even the xl bully loves cuddles, and can be cute an loyal and soppy.

The difference between them and another one dog Is that all dogs are wolves.
They all have something called "instincts" these are what they are breed with and born with.

Even in fhe see text little poodle, one of day that cute cuddly poodle could turn kne bad day and bite their usually beloved play mate child.

They unpredictable. Then difference between the usual dogs and these bully dogs is that they can do tremendous damage and kill in moments.

Dog haters? Seriously? That's really not the case.
A dog is an animal. It's not their fault. Bad and irresponsible human owner hate is what it is. You can't hate an animal for being an animal. You can find irresponsible owners repugnant and want things to be changed to force them to take responsibility for their animals.

I wonder if we'll ever see a time when mandatory insurance on dogs that someone they attack can claim against is introduced. I would expect if such a thing was introduced, premiums would be breed dependent with discounts for evidence of training and stuff like that and failure to have the insurance would result in fines or the dog being taken away.

That video is really distressing, that poor woman. It would have delighted me to see those horrible dogs shot.

@Elevel

The vast majority of staffies are huge softies. If we ban these breeds, what do we do with the ones who are well looked after by loving owners and are kept under control, that have nice temperaments? Do you want them wretched away from their owners and put down. Because as a dog owner, I would never get over something like that happening.

I've just looked at gum tree. I'm absolutely gob smacked by the look it those xl bullies. Absolutely disgusting theses dogs a re readily for sale.

One does say good with children!!

I help out in a boarding kennels, we had an xl bully brought in as dad was working away and "mum" didn't trust him (dog was prior to this relationship) she brought him in, made out he was dangerous. We had to be extra cautious..... Turns out he was the softest thing in the world who just loved cuddles and attention. He would cry when I closed the main door on lock up.

"mum" didn't look happy when we all said he was adorable etc etc.

My point is, it's not the dogs, it's the owners!!!

It’s easy to start a petition without those ones

I didn’t start it but saw it on here

It’s only just begun by the looks of it so anyone could do one with different breeds

Totally agree with Puffins. The problem isn’t dogs. It’s owners. But sadly the irresponsible arses who have dogs like this don’t give a shite about the law.
I love dogs. I have giant dogs. They are trained and under control in public. Always. They aren’t allowed to approach people they don’t know and I always move them out of the way of cyclists, runners or anyone who looks concerned by them.

Why include Staffies and English bull terriers on the list for that petition? I own soppy Labradors but am aware that neither of those dog breeds are implicated. Lots of them are absolutely lovely.

Some owners of them of course are utter knobs. Maybe some more culpability for the dog owner as opposed to an outright ban is better?

What can be done about these people who raise dogs to behave this way and then parade them as status symbols?

Let’s face it; there are not many of these wandering unleashed in posh Hampstead. They are owned by people who generally are not wealthy. Is it part of a wider socioeconomic issue? If we eradicated poverty (never going to happen) would these attacks stop?

I dislike dogs but am thinking about it from another angle. Licensing won’t work. So it’s about making ownership not seem aspirational. Maybe Rishi Sunak should get one. Reduce the street cred of these dogs overnight.

tbh I don’t really care

These threads go round in circles

Everyone outraged and nothing changes

I’m sure someone will be along soon to say it’s the owners, not the breed…