Another dog attack

It's been said many times that these dogs are, in general, owned by a certain type of person. It's not Mrs Fforbes-Hamilton in her barbour jacket walking her dogs through the woods, but TJay in grey joggers with his hand shoved down the front.
He also won't give a shiny shit about laws. These types will find another breed or even another animal to look 'hard' or 'cool'.
There are no guns in this country, so it's dogs. Get rid of that, and they will find something else. like knives/crossbows although knife crime suggests maybe too late
I would also hazard a guess that in most cases, these families are already under the eye of various authorities, but being judgmental about lifestyles is against policy.

The people who would willingly obey laws to stop these statistics are also those who spend time and money on training and enrichment. I know people who have adopted bull breeds who have health or behaviour problems and spend huge amounts of time, energy, and money to ensure their dogs are not a statistic at the moment.

I'm an owner of an Akita, and we are at various classes, clubs, and workshops every week. She is a very people oriented dog and being trained in rescue techniques.

Oh my god that video is terrifying. I hope those filming called the police or tried to distract the dogs. They were totally out of control. I hope she's ok.

I live near Alexandra Palace and I'm tempted to stop walking my dog (tiny) there as there's a few XL Bully's. They scare the shit out of me. You will not survive an attack.

@ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood i totally agree that XL bullies should be immediately banned. I’m sure I’m over cautious but I usually drive to somewhere that I can almost guarantee there will be no horrible dogs. I avoid all city parks.

I don’t necessarily agree that all dogs are unpredictable though. I’ve got one that’s completely predictable who I direct any enthusiastic children towards. He’s a bugger for having nightmares and waking up in a real temper though….if he was an XL bully I wouldn’t be alive! I wonder if that’s sometimes the cause of them ‘turning’. Anyway, not to worry as he’s a very small bichon.

The breed isn’t the problem.

Let’s focus on the sort of bad bastards who have them - categorically all scumbags into all manner of crime. I don’t think that’s unfair either, they all the same type of scrote hoodie wearing dosser. Why don’t we address the elephant in the room and sort that problem out and the XL bullies will probs sort themselves out at the same time…

It's all right. I was thinking it too. I can do the full half hour on common lines of ancestry over the past 500,000 years.

Just signed 👍

One hopes she is OK. I imagine she would tire before then dog. Maybe people standing there watching could call police and ambulance.

It'll be a tall order to get the RSPCA on board, I think. They are very vocial about opposing BSL.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/getinvolved/campaign/bsl

Ban the breed, make it a campaign, get rspca on board, hefty fines for people who flout it, anonymous phone in encourage it

We want the Government to repeal the Dangerous Dogs Act and replace it with legislation that focuses on early intervention to prevent dog bites

It’ll be interesting to see what this would be.

I don’t mind if people disagree on breed banning, I’m glad that petitions are being signed. If we want change it needs to be evident beyond chat

No responsible dog owner will tell you their dog isn’t capable of attacking - I’d trust my dogs 100% but I don’t trust them enough to put my children’s lives in danger which is the crux of it. People who mince about with dogs with no recall or training are just bad bastards.

Oh thank d this is there closed kne, any new one a?

Is she okay? It looked like the guy was keeping hold of two of them, to give her a fighting chance with the one locked onto her arm or sleeve, because his two were trying to join in. One of his dogs briefly got free as he tried to pull the attacking dog from her, and it immediately jumped up towards her throat/face, fortunately missing her. The guy seems to get hold of it again, and the video ends.

I really hope it was her sleeve, and that she's okay. She was on the ground at one point and did well to quickly jump up again.

@RipWheelersHat of course they are not and probably already used to evading they authorities and living away from the law.

The UK has so few banned breeds compared to the US and most European countries. 🤔

Sorry yeah - it was the one OP linked a few posts before mine. I was just repdonded to that post.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/624876

Because of the sheer amount of deluded entitled dog owners who think dogs take precedent over humans.

@AMonthOfSundaes can you link it to please

Repeal the current Dangerous Dogs Act and replace with new framework

This is a much better petition. It specifically calls out that targetting breed has not worked and wants the laws doing so repealled in favour of better methods...

"We want the Government to repeal the Dangerous Dogs Act and replace it with legislation that focuses on early intervention to prevent dog bites and tackle dog-related issues regardless of breed or type, based solely on their behaviour.

The Government commissioned a steering group to provide advice on policies aimed at reducing dog attacks and promoting responsible ownership of dogs. However, their report is not due until next year.

In view of shocking and tragic events that continue to result from the current legislation, urgent action is required NOW, in the interest of public safety and the welfare of dogs. Organisations involved in the Government's steering group oppose Breed Specific Legislation and agree breed is not a prediction of aggressive behaviour. We believe the current legislation is enabling more fatalities and failing to prevent the dog attack trend. It needs repeal immediately."

Too dangerous.

The kind of people who own these dogs are not the kind of people who are going to pay for or adhere to a licence with any rules. There will just be more backyard breeders breeding them and people finding other ways to get hold of them