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Another dog attack

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Unsure33 · 07/06/2023 19:04

There is a horrific video on twitter of a young woman being attacked in east London by three dogs

owner in hoodie , pit bull types .

I am a dog owner but also have ended up in hospital after a dog attack and it made me feel sick

honestly I think we need dog licences , dog wardens and more accountability because the current laws don’t seem to be deterring people letting dogs off their leads and having no control . If it prices some owners out I am sorry tough luck . Dogs are expensive and there needs to be some more incentive to keep them under control .

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ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood · 07/06/2023 21:04

@Crunchymum I'm not site how to but I can try and bump it on aibu.

Yes crunch mum some people suggested walking around with marigolds lube and going for it's bum mid attack for which I would also need a kneeling pad and glasses, 🤣.

Some said walk around with a vet and gp whilst sedated.
However some cheap and light tips also on there like this high pitched noise thing, with led light that could stop it or distract it. Also a k9 spray sold on amazon.

Others said that squeeze lemon juice thing, a brake stick which you lodge into it's mouth and I'm not sure if it's a joke but something called a wolf stick.

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WhisperingAutistic · 07/06/2023 21:04

The Daily Mirror is running a campaign at the moment

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mum-jack-lis-10-killed-30161638.amp

Oysterbabe · 07/06/2023 20:58

It's a miracle that woman survived. There's a moment when one jumps and snaps at her throat, if it had got her she'd be dead.
Horrific and terrifying and why I'm afraid for my children going to the park.

kethuphouse · 07/06/2023 20:55

These dogs are used as weapons. Trying to get the owners to use their 'weapon' responsibly is just not realistic. They do not see their dogs as just pets so you cannot appeal to their sense of responsibility for the general public. They do not care about the general public, or their dog.

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:54

TheoTheopolis23 · 07/06/2023 20:52

I skim read the thread .... But anyway; it probably needs said 3 times.

And youll probably have a fourth and fifth time ....

What is MN if not pedantic... I mean, if it makes anyone feel better to keep posting it, glad to be of service!

kethuphouse · 07/06/2023 20:53

AMonthOfSundaes · 07/06/2023 20:06

Repeal the current Dangerous Dogs Act and replace with new framework

This is a much better petition. It specifically calls out that targetting breed has not worked and wants the laws doing so repealled in favour of better methods...

"We want the Government to repeal the Dangerous Dogs Act and replace it with legislation that focuses on early intervention to prevent dog bites and tackle dog-related issues regardless of breed or type, based solely on their behaviour.

The Government commissioned a steering group to provide advice on policies aimed at reducing dog attacks and promoting responsible ownership of dogs. However, their report is not due until next year.

In view of shocking and tragic events that continue to result from the current legislation, urgent action is required NOW, in the interest of public safety and the welfare of dogs. Organisations involved in the Government's steering group oppose Breed Specific Legislation and agree breed is not a prediction of aggressive behaviour. We believe the current legislation is enabling more fatalities and failing to prevent the dog attack trend. It needs repeal immediately."

What early intervention are the chavs that own these dogs going to engage with ? None is the answer.

BlowDryRat · 07/06/2023 20:52

PuffinsRocks · 07/06/2023 19:24

It's not about hating dogs, it's about keeping people safe.
Honestly I've said it before but watching the British reaction to every new dog attack is like watching Americans every time they have another gun attack at a school. Everyone hand wrings and says it's so tragic and that something needs to be done and nothing gets done because fundamentally people see it as their right to have a dangerous dog.
People are not responsible enough to have dogs, dogs need licencing.

This is spot on.

TheoTheopolis23 · 07/06/2023 20:52

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:50

I think you're the third poster to say that now. I get it. 😁

I skim read the thread .... But anyway; it probably needs said 3 times.

And youll probably have a fourth and fifth time ....

Wildflowersinthemeadow · 07/06/2023 20:50

I think I’m more tolerant towards dogs than most on MN. I don’t really care if a dog jumps up at me or approaches me.

However, the fact fatal dog attacks are rising is a source of concern to me. And I do think it is the breed.

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:50

TheoTheopolis23 · 07/06/2023 20:47

Humans are not descended from apes. We share a common ancestor with apes.

I think you're the third poster to say that now. I get it. 😁

strawberrywhisk · 07/06/2023 20:49

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

Zero empathy for the young woman who was attacked, just thoughts for the inconvenience to yourself?

TheoTheopolis23 · 07/06/2023 20:48

And fwiw human behaviour is pretty fkg ape like when it comes down to it.

Likewise dogs retain a lot of wolf instincts and behaviour.

TheoTheopolis23 · 07/06/2023 20:47

Elevel · 07/06/2023 19:49

All humans are descended from apes... 🤷‍♀️ We all have ancestors.

Humans are not descended from apes. We share a common ancestor with apes.

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 20:47

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:46

There is a vocal majority on certain threads. I would think most posters (myself included until now) ignore the millions of "another dog attack" threads. There is literally at least one with that exact title every week.

People don’t have to be vocal to show how they think they can just vote

And the large majority is yanbu

And yes they are every other week, they don’t do much, so all those posts could be petitions instead

funinthesun19 · 07/06/2023 20:47

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

You are part of the problem. It’s nothing to do with hating dogs. Why are you so offended? People should be freely able to talk about it and share their horror and dismay about it without some dog lovers piping up about how much they don’t want to hear about it.

You should be listening loud and clear.

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:46

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 20:41

Going by threads on here they are. Maybe another forum would get a different result for that poster if that’s what they’re after.

There is a vocal majority on certain threads. I would think most posters (myself included until now) ignore the millions of "another dog attack" threads. There is literally at least one with that exact title every week.

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:43

Crunchymum · 07/06/2023 20:41

@ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood

Could you link the "what to do in a dog attack" thread.

It's getting to the point I'm feeling that I genuinely need to know this survival skill.

I wouldn't bother. Most of the suggestions are ridiculous and would just make the situation worse.

Crunchymum · 07/06/2023 20:41

ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood · 07/06/2023 19:21

Wow I've just seen it.

I had a thread yesterday about what to do in a dog attack.

You can see one dog gets a hold of her arm.

I'm just not sure how she could have got it off.

We need urgent emergency law now to stop these attacks. Im absolutely disgusted.

@ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood

Could you link the "what to do in a dog attack" thread.

It's getting to the point I'm feeling that I genuinely need to know this survival skill.

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 20:41

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:39

I don't think they're in the minority at all.

Going by threads on here they are. Maybe another forum would get a different result for that poster if that’s what they’re after.

dudsville · 07/06/2023 20:41

I've just signed the petition mentioned upthread. Criminally inclined folks will continue doing their thing, but tighter laws would help. And it would make the other owners who just don't know better and aren't aware how to raise and care for these dogs think twice.

Elevel · 07/06/2023 20:39

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 20:32

As you wish. It must be hard if you’re in the minority but people aren’t with you on this one

I don't think they're in the minority at all.

SnoringPains · 07/06/2023 20:37

I’m a staffy owner so I will defend them til
the end of time, but XL bullies frighten the life out of me. There’s one that walks in our local park and I won’t go in now if I see it when I’m out, it ran over to my toddler a few months ago and I’ve never felt panic like it. I’m sure it was only being friendly but I was so glad when the owners (eventually) noticed that I’d picked my son up and was trying to get there and shouted it back. I’ve also got a friend who has one, not the “typical” owner described here, a perfectly lovely and normal family with two young children and it really unnerves me that they have that dog around their babies. From their point of view he’s the best dog ever
and they can’t understand why I won’t take my kids over to play. They’re just too big and too capable of doing immense amounts of harm, I know I’d stand absolutely no chance if one went for me. In reality, the only dog attack I’ve ever been involved in was when a Cockerpoo attacked my dog, who thankfully did not retaliate or that Cockerpoo might not have lived to see another day. I avoid Cockerpoos now as well.

As much as dog licensing seems to make sense, the people who own aggressive,
poorly trained and out of control dogs won’t give a shit about getting a license, and the police are already at breaking point so are unlikely to make checking dog licences a priority. I don’t know what the solution is, for now I will just keep on avoiding our local XL bully, and of course any cockerpoos!

SunnyEgg · 07/06/2023 20:32

AlwaysGinPlease · 07/06/2023 20:27

This. Sick of it. Yes, let's post about car crashes. Every single one.

As you wish. It must be hard if you’re in the minority but people aren’t with you on this one

70sTomboy · 07/06/2023 20:28

Withnailandeye · 07/06/2023 20:18

The breed isn’t the problem.

Let’s focus on the sort of bad bastards who have them - categorically all scumbags into all manner of crime. I don’t think that’s unfair either, they all the same type of scrote hoodie wearing dosser. Why don’t we address the elephant in the room and sort that problem out and the XL bullies will probs sort themselves out at the same time…

That was a quicker, more succinct version of my rambling 😁

AlwaysGinPlease · 07/06/2023 20:27

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 07/06/2023 19:20

Seriously, can’t MN make a special dog haters page, so the rest of us don’t have see these miserable, now multiple starts per day, threads.

This. Sick of it. Yes, let's post about car crashes. Every single one.