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Partner's ex wife upset over boundaries being introduced

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Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 00:25

New here so please bear with me. I came to search confirmation that I am not completely mad for what I have done/seek unbiased opinion. Apologies for long post, I felt that context and reasonable detail was needed so that people can inform their view.

I have two young kids with my partner, and his two older kids from previous marriage stay with us for half a week. The marriage broke down due to partner's ex wife's infidelity; she went on to marry the man she cheated on my partner with, no further kids born in that relationship.
When I moved in with my partner, I sort of 'jumped onto the running train' of established routine of my partner's ex featuring heavily in his life through constant messaging, but also physical presence, dropping off the kids and inviting herself in and ordering my partner to make her a cup of tea, dropping in to get stuff while we were not in the house, that kind of stuff. The infidelity and divorce upset my partner, but he's a man who's able to forgive so over time their relationship has become reasonably amicable and allowing for the above, but definitely not romantic (from his side anyway). As a newcomer, I was putting up with all that, though knew that this level of intrusion and presence from his ex was definitely not normal. To maintain the peace I tolerated the situation. Me and her would get on ok, and I get on well with the kids; she said numerous times how lucky her kids are to have me in their lives.

Me and my partner then had our first child who she would see when dropping off or collecting the kids, she would take the child in her arms etc etc. Some time after we had our child, things started to change for me, particularly after some information reached me related to her current husband (relationship not going too well) and our child (her having a bit of an obsession with the child, like the child was hers).

I have then suggested to my partner that it was time to put some boundaries in place as there should be, and put a bit more distance between her and us. This was supported by my partner, though he wasn't overly keen to introduce all these changes as he did not want to 'rock the boat'. The boundaries mostly revolved around her presence in our place (no longer invited in, kids being dropped off/collected by their dad from her place). Nothing, I believe, that should be a problem for a former partner to respect and accept as their ex partner has moved on and started a family with someone else. The boundaries also include as little contact of my children with her as possible; she's of no relation to them, other than being a mother of their siblings.

It's been about a year now since the boundaries have been introduced and it didn't go down well with her, and it is actually getting worse. I have been name called by her, all of a sudden it's not kids are lucky to have me in their life but poor kids to have to endure me while staying with their dad.. the latest being that if I don't want her to be involved in my kids' lives then she doesn't want me to be involved in her kids' lives either.... completely ignoring the fact that she's comparing apples with pears; her kids are part of our household and my life for half a week each week, whereas my kids have nothing to do with her.

It's wearing, it's frustrating, it's upsetting and I don't know where it will end. It's also putting a strain onto my relationship with my partner as he is caught in the middle of it. It's all been fine for as long as it was on her terms. When the terms changed, I have been made the bad one, for asking nothing more than to be given space and peace for our family life.

For those who managed to read until the end, I would appreciate your views, AIBU?

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Cantstandbullshitanymore · 07/06/2023 12:12

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 11:42

Nah the problem is OP is a coward, instead of being assertive to begin with she pretended all was fine until she got her feet under the table. Now she's given birth she feels her position is more secure so she can start throwing her weight around .She should have said many years ago about how she really felt. It will feel like a shock to the SC suddenly their mum is banned from even pickups. It's pathetic.

Actually OPs husband is the coward who should have put reasonable boundaries in place. It’s difficult for OP to come in and immediately start putting boundaries in place as she will be seen as the evil one and this goes on until OP can’t rake it no more and has to insist.

As she said her husband agreed with the boundaries but was still worried about backlash. He’s the cause of all this and as another PP said this is a situation where one ex does what he or she wants the other goes along with it unwillingly die to fear or rocking the boat.

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 12:10

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I'm not an ex my dh has no exes I'm saying how I see it. This is what has happened. OP was uncomfortable with it from the beginning but lacked the assertiveness to say her feelings and only felt comfortable when she gained more power. That's it really.

Confusedmumannoyedson · 07/06/2023 12:10

Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 01:12

I am sorry that i have come across as hideous. There's seeing my children and there's cuddling and kissing my children. Would you be happy with that for your children?

You haven't come across as hideous @Stickytofpud . You wand and need boundaries and she wants control and your partner/husband goes for the easy option with his ex.

She is not related to your child and has no say but for peace coming in for a cup of tea etc would be maybe worth tolerating. She shouldn't just take your child from you though.

I think she likes her own way, has messed up with her infidelity and maybe yearns for the life she once had and you now have. Pity her.

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 12:08

Olive19741205 · 07/06/2023 11:50

Oh is that right? So you'd give your DHs ex a key to your house would you? Let her come and go even when you're out. Liar😂

I'm not an ex my DH doesn't have exes but I would never would have continued the relationship with a man if his ex had a key to his house. OP was pretending to be fine with it when she wasn't and only felt confident to say anything when she felt she had more power and had secured her position. It's a bit sneaky and underhanded spend years pretending to be OK with it then hit the nuclear option of banning her. She should have laid the boundaries at the beginning.

nats2010 · 07/06/2023 12:07

Hi OP. I have shared custody with my exH. Have been doing so for the past 6 years. We are amicable for the sake of the kids. I do not go into his (our marital home) and he does not come into mine. There is absolutely no need.
I have a new baby with partner of 4 years. My exH has seen her and opened my car door to peek in and say hello but that is as far as it goes.
I would not wish to go into his home as I feel it is no longer my place, nor would I invite him into mine. The kids are dropped on doorsteps. My kids have a bigger issue that that live out of their bags all of the time. As long as we remain amicable for them, that's all they need. I agree with PPs that you probably should have set some boundaries earlier, however you need to gauge how happy the kids are and work from there. Wishing you luck.

gogohmm · 07/06/2023 12:03

It sounds like the issues go both ways, you need to relax a bit too. Having her into your home occasionally really helps family cohesion in step situations, also why does it matter if she she's or cuddles your child, having extra adults to love them is a good thing. I'm getting vibes that you don't trust her not to be after your partner?

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/06/2023 12:00

And while she is still mum to their kids and certainly while kids are still young it makes sense to keep co-parenting smooth, the ex lost all her moral high ground and continued "access all areas at all time" privilege when she shagged someone who wasn't her husband. Although he does sound a bit of a doormat tbh

SweetiePi3 · 07/06/2023 11:59

I'm with you OP, it's your home and your boundaries. Perhaps discuss them one by one with her and explain how her actions affect you.

Intriguedbythis · 07/06/2023 11:59

@Olive19741205 wow chill out, I’m not a liar 😆.

I am not in a step family situation but i would also never have children with a man who had kids if I was not able to be friendly and Mature and respect his other kids/ their mother like a reasonable adult…

MinionsHooray · 07/06/2023 11:58

Nordicrain · 07/06/2023 09:36

It's very unfriendly.

So?

beachcitygirl · 07/06/2023 11:53

Ah just realised. She's not the wife. Just the girlfriend. Thus the insecurity. Understandable.

Lobelia123 · 07/06/2023 11:50

To be fair, I wouldn't like my husband's ex-wife walking into our shared home as if it were still hers. That is definitely a boundary that's being overstepped. Its one thing to welcome her in and offer her tea or a glass of wine, quite another to come home and find she's let herself in with the kids and made herself at home. How would she feel if the positions were reversed, and you started acting the same way? She really should have the sensitivity to know that that's a step too far. She should most definitely NOT be letting herself in without your invitation or knowledge and when you are not there, even if it's to collect something for the kids. Its not her house anymore. I get the point people are making about the good co-parenting relationship thats always existed and the fact that husband is no longer interested in her etc etc - all the more reason to set some boundaries....good fences make good neighbours.

Olive19741205 · 07/06/2023 11:50

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 11:42

Nah the problem is OP is a coward, instead of being assertive to begin with she pretended all was fine until she got her feet under the table. Now she's given birth she feels her position is more secure so she can start throwing her weight around .She should have said many years ago about how she really felt. It will feel like a shock to the SC suddenly their mum is banned from even pickups. It's pathetic.

Oh is that right? So you'd give your DHs ex a key to your house would you? Let her come and go even when you're out. Liar😂

Yousee · 07/06/2023 11:48

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 11:42

Nah the problem is OP is a coward, instead of being assertive to begin with she pretended all was fine until she got her feet under the table. Now she's given birth she feels her position is more secure so she can start throwing her weight around .She should have said many years ago about how she really felt. It will feel like a shock to the SC suddenly their mum is banned from even pickups. It's pathetic.

Or alternatively, maybe now she's his wife and also mother to his children (not just a current girlfriend or an ex wife) OP feels she deserves a bit more respect and say in what goes on in hers and her childrens home?

Olive19741205 · 07/06/2023 11:47

Intriguedbythis · 07/06/2023 11:06

Also, as a step mother you do actually have real duties to your step children. You did them a great disservice by making their mother go from having a friendly cuppa and fuss of your kids ( their siblings !) to being banished outside…

I would imagine your partner must be pretty disappointed that you went from a healthy co parenting situation to this mess borne by insecurity / being bored of playing along as a willing step mum now you had your ‘real kids’.

I never understand this way of thinking. You're bashing a mother because she has her own kids? Literally. My step-kids are in no way "my kids". They have 2 parents who make all decisions for them. When they're here, I might cook for them but that's about the height of my 'responsibilities' for them.

I certainly would not allow another woman to come and go as she pleases into my home, I don't care who she is or whose mother she is. You're either a liar, pretending you'd be ok with this and taking this opportunity to bash step-mothers or you're a complete and utter wimp if you'd allow this.

dutysuite · 07/06/2023 11:43

You sound jealous and threatened by you partners ex.

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 11:42

Olive19741205 · 07/06/2023 11:35

Exactly. They're pretending they'd be ok with it just as an excuse to bash a step-mother. I've seen people on here complaining about their own mothers letting themselves into their house 😂and the advice was to take the key back.

Nah the problem is OP is a coward, instead of being assertive to begin with she pretended all was fine until she got her feet under the table. Now she's given birth she feels her position is more secure so she can start throwing her weight around .She should have said many years ago about how she really felt. It will feel like a shock to the SC suddenly their mum is banned from even pickups. It's pathetic.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/06/2023 11:39

Now I have to wrestle to get a cuddle Grin

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/06/2023 11:38

Married with one DD 15 actually. Family and friends littleies would shower her with kisses as a baby and that's all good. In the same way I would my baby nieces and nephews.

I just wouldn't have wanted others to kiss her. Hardly makes her starved of love.

Each to their own though, I get that

Olive19741205 · 07/06/2023 11:35

Tekkentime · 07/06/2023 11:01

I know! Who would actually tolerate this in real life?😂

Exactly. They're pretending they'd be ok with it just as an excuse to bash a step-mother. I've seen people on here complaining about their own mothers letting themselves into their house 😂and the advice was to take the key back.

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 11:34

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/06/2023 11:32

I would also not be happy her kissing my baby.

Why are you a never married person with no past or a FTM? As long as baby has had jabs and isn't a newborn It's jealousy more affection never did a baby any harm, in fact it's positive for baby.

zingally · 07/06/2023 11:34

She's annoyed that you've put in boundaries.

Either she'll get over it in time, or she won't. Either way, carry on as normally as possible. Continue with the kids as you always have done, and leave any direct involvement with her to your partner. She's allowed to have feelings about the changes, as much as you are allowed to make them.

Either way, it'll be the kids who will ultimately decide/say who has acted well, and who hasn't. And they'll show that with actions and time spent as they become adults.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/06/2023 11:32

I would also not be happy her kissing my baby.

Sunshine0x · 07/06/2023 11:31

sourcorn · 07/06/2023 11:26

I'd argue the ex wife is insecure here otherwise she wouldn't give a crap that she's not allowed in her ex husbands house and to see her children's sibling. Surely she has enough going on in her own life to not be bothered by this.

I personally wouldn't care about the offspring if my DH remarried remarried someone else. I'd be more worried about the impact on my DDs inheritance and stepmother taking all the cash. The ex is a better person than me, I'd never say it out loud but yeah I wouldn't want anything to do with it. I still love my DH dearly so perhaps that's the reason but no I wouldn't want to be lavishing attention on any half siblings of my DDs.
The ex is a good person to even give the half siblings the time of day.