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Partner's ex wife upset over boundaries being introduced

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Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 00:25

New here so please bear with me. I came to search confirmation that I am not completely mad for what I have done/seek unbiased opinion. Apologies for long post, I felt that context and reasonable detail was needed so that people can inform their view.

I have two young kids with my partner, and his two older kids from previous marriage stay with us for half a week. The marriage broke down due to partner's ex wife's infidelity; she went on to marry the man she cheated on my partner with, no further kids born in that relationship.
When I moved in with my partner, I sort of 'jumped onto the running train' of established routine of my partner's ex featuring heavily in his life through constant messaging, but also physical presence, dropping off the kids and inviting herself in and ordering my partner to make her a cup of tea, dropping in to get stuff while we were not in the house, that kind of stuff. The infidelity and divorce upset my partner, but he's a man who's able to forgive so over time their relationship has become reasonably amicable and allowing for the above, but definitely not romantic (from his side anyway). As a newcomer, I was putting up with all that, though knew that this level of intrusion and presence from his ex was definitely not normal. To maintain the peace I tolerated the situation. Me and her would get on ok, and I get on well with the kids; she said numerous times how lucky her kids are to have me in their lives.

Me and my partner then had our first child who she would see when dropping off or collecting the kids, she would take the child in her arms etc etc. Some time after we had our child, things started to change for me, particularly after some information reached me related to her current husband (relationship not going too well) and our child (her having a bit of an obsession with the child, like the child was hers).

I have then suggested to my partner that it was time to put some boundaries in place as there should be, and put a bit more distance between her and us. This was supported by my partner, though he wasn't overly keen to introduce all these changes as he did not want to 'rock the boat'. The boundaries mostly revolved around her presence in our place (no longer invited in, kids being dropped off/collected by their dad from her place). Nothing, I believe, that should be a problem for a former partner to respect and accept as their ex partner has moved on and started a family with someone else. The boundaries also include as little contact of my children with her as possible; she's of no relation to them, other than being a mother of their siblings.

It's been about a year now since the boundaries have been introduced and it didn't go down well with her, and it is actually getting worse. I have been name called by her, all of a sudden it's not kids are lucky to have me in their life but poor kids to have to endure me while staying with their dad.. the latest being that if I don't want her to be involved in my kids' lives then she doesn't want me to be involved in her kids' lives either.... completely ignoring the fact that she's comparing apples with pears; her kids are part of our household and my life for half a week each week, whereas my kids have nothing to do with her.

It's wearing, it's frustrating, it's upsetting and I don't know where it will end. It's also putting a strain onto my relationship with my partner as he is caught in the middle of it. It's all been fine for as long as it was on her terms. When the terms changed, I have been made the bad one, for asking nothing more than to be given space and peace for our family life.

For those who managed to read until the end, I would appreciate your views, AIBU?

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ImustLearn2Cook · 07/06/2023 02:31

Also, just wanted to add that of course it is not ok for her to enter your home without anyone being there to invite her in. And of course it’s reasonable to want to have space and time for yourselves.

Instead of a complete ban of her entering not just your home but your husband’s home and your step children’s home and your baby’s home, couldn’t you create some healthy boundaries of when you choose to invite her in?

It’s not just your home though. When sharing a house the other occupants are allowed to have guests.

You said that your husband feels caught in the middle. That’s not healthy for him.

Think about how to establish boundaries that don’t override his healthy boundaries and the children’s healthy boundaries.

Everybody’s boundaries are going to be a bit different but we still need to respect each other’s boundaries.

MrsLiu1981 · 07/06/2023 02:23

Sorry, thought I was on Reddit for a moment 🤣 *YABU

MrsLiu1981 · 07/06/2023 02:21

It sounds like they had a healthy co-parenting situation set up and now you've come along and crapped all over it. YTA, sorry.

MCOut · 07/06/2023 02:19

You are being so so unreasonable. Admittedly some of what you have written would make me a bit insecure too. I’d hate someone just letting themselves in. However, instigating the deterioration of a good coparent set up because of it, was not ok. Her marriage is not your business, and I know it’s easier said than done when someone you love has been hurt, but it’s for your DH to manage how their past impacts their current relationship.

You are assuming that her actions regarding your children were self-motivated. It sounds like she was doing her best to embrace you and your children. This might have been to signal to hers that they should love and treat you all well, given that dynamics in blended families can be fraught. The restrictions you put in place were quite extreme and were not in the best interest of the children. Your DH can’t put all of the responsibility for this on you though. He was reluctant for a reason, and he should not have agreed to bulldoze a dynamic that had been working for years.

I think if you want to repair the coparent relationship, the first thing you’re going to have to do is think of it from her point of view. She might feel that she did her best to be kind to you for years and in return you banished her from your house and from interacting with your children like a criminal. I’ll probably get slated for suggesting this, but sometimes you just have to apologise. After that just keep it civil, focus on what’s best for the kids and don’t listen to gossip. It’s highly unlikely, she will want to rebuild a relationship or spend any time in your house or around your children after this, so I don’t think you have anything to lose.

Divorcedalongtime · 07/06/2023 02:17

You are unreasonable tk not want her in the house, you sound jealous and controlling. Maybe you should think about your DH’s children in all of this and not just about yourself. Also yojr DH is clearly a coward

Guavafish1 · 07/06/2023 02:13

She sounds like a nightmare

Your partner needs to support you with the new changes. Ignore as much as possible.

How old are the older children?

Exesexwassuchapita · 07/06/2023 02:07

OP, I understand where you’re coming from, I had almost exactly the same situation. His ex wanted control, she wanted to know everything that went on in our home. We had the turning up, walking in —- I never went to her house, husband had never been inside it, always spoke on her doorstep.
All I can suggest is you and DH put on a united front. To the children present it as a that’s life shrugged shoulders type of thing. Be firm with the ex wife but don’t involve the children.
One thing you might consider is moving just a bit further away. Something about an unfamiliar house, different neighbourhood def put the ex wife off visiting.

ImustLearn2Cook · 07/06/2023 02:05

This explains it better than me:

Boundaries that don’t work

While it’s a good idea to set some boundaries, some don’t work and can ultimately have a negative effect on one or both partners.

These tend to be founded in control, when one person tries to restrict or command the actions of the other — and there are some definite red flags to look out for.

“Anything that limits a person’s options” is an unhealthy boundary, Preece explains. “It could be around time, the way they act, even the way they dress.” Crossing these lines, he adds, “can be dangerous.”

This is something Gabb agrees with.
“We shouldn’t confuse boundaries and control —– they’re not the same thing,” she says. “If someone feels a partner is putting up boundaries in a controlling way — ‘These are my boundaries, and this is what you must do’ — then there’s a problem with communication around boundaries being established.”

psychcentral.com/blog/why-healthy-relationships-always-have-boundaries-how-to-set-boundaries-in-yours#ineffective-boundaries

ImustLearn2Cook · 07/06/2023 02:02

@Stickytofpud Having healthy boundaries is really important.

But I do think that sometimes people confuse boundaries with control.

Healthy boundaries are about you choosing how you want to be treated, you making decisions for yourself, you choosing to value and respect yourself and equally valuing and respecting others.

They are not about controlling situations, controlling other people, changing another person or dictating what they can and can’t do.

This is about your partner’s co parenting relationship with his ex. It is up to him, not you, how he wants to facilitate the co parenting relationship he has with his ex.

I am sorry but I do think that you are being unreasonable.

If a woman posted on Mumsnet saying that her partner would not allow her children’s father in the house for similar reasons that you gave, I would be saying that he is being controlling and that it was a red flag.

Lachimolala · 07/06/2023 01:56

You’re getting pummelled because it sounds like you walked into a healthy and happy, very established co-parenting relationship and just obliterated it.

In principle I kind of agree with the gist of what you mean, but you’ve gone about thing’s completely wrong. Honestly you’re the type of woman/step-mum I dread my ex meeting and the kids having.

Remaker · 07/06/2023 01:45

I think that the absolute best situation for all the children (including yours) was what was happening before and you’ve just bulldozed right through that, for seemingly quite petty reasons. Why would you want to create a situation where the parents weren’t getting along, what have you gained out of this apart from the feeling that you have more power than her?

And no it would not worry me in the slightest if she was holding or kissing one of my children. What did you think she was going to do - kidnap them?

My brother’s children have had to endure acrimony between their parents and a step mother who has never laid eyes on their mother. They would have given anything to have the kind of setup you had. This post has really upset me.

AngelAurora · 07/06/2023 01:44

Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 01:12

I am sorry that i have come across as hideous. There's seeing my children and there's cuddling and kissing my children. Would you be happy with that for your children?

Grow up, be glad she cares and the kids are happy. You are very controlling

Breezy1985 · 07/06/2023 01:35

I think you're being Abu. Maybe I'm just strange though, I always got one with my kids SM and also am close to ex and hers son, to the point I've had him stay for weekends. They've since broken up, he doesn't see any of the children but we have maintained a good friendship and they even come over on Christmas day. Our children are siblings at the end of the day.

ClaraBourne · 07/06/2023 01:34

She sounds far too familiar but when you say about her and your kids;

she's of no relation to them, other than being a mother of their siblings.

That's quite a big deal if you ask me.

oviraptor21 · 07/06/2023 01:26

Please ignore those suggesting you are hideous or jealous - both are ridiculous inferences to make.

You are right to have boundaries. Some of her behaviours should have been stamped out a long time ago - coming into your house when you're not there is totally unacceptable. And trying to have a relationship with your child given the hurt she caused your dh is not something I would tolerate either.

Maybe a softening of allowing her to drop off and collect her DC from yours but not inviting in would be OK but the rest, reading between the lines, I'd keep her as far away as possible.

Honeychickpea · 07/06/2023 01:25

Frogger8395 · 07/06/2023 00:48

Who is telling you that she’s saying this?

Indeed, I too was wondering who is doing the stirring.

WandaWonder · 07/06/2023 01:24

Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 01:12

I am sorry that i have come across as hideous. There's seeing my children and there's cuddling and kissing my children. Would you be happy with that for your children?

If my child is fine with it nothing to do with me

Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 01:22

I am getting fair pummeled here, not sure I can take any more for one night. But I asked for unbiased opinions so that's what I got so I have some thinking to do. I do think though that some of the posters did jump into conclusions a bit too fast; there's only so much one can say in one post without making it too long (which i did already), the small nuances, which are important do get lost.

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CallieQ · 07/06/2023 01:22

Agree with PPs YABU

Toomuchmarking · 07/06/2023 01:21

Well 60% of the votes are that YANBU and I'm one of them so I'd take that and run before the nasty people come back 😀

bananamum13 · 07/06/2023 01:21

Crikey - my DM is so close to her XH 2nd wife - she was a great SM to my DSis and to me (absolutely no blood relation), DM was happy that my DSis was very much loved while in her care.
My SM on the other hand - as soon as she had her own DC, her attitude towards me completely changed and I was just always in the way. Her oldest child is now 31 and she will still barely speak to me.

CherryPosset · 07/06/2023 01:19

what women allow men to do to them,
Shock

Coyoacan · 07/06/2023 01:16

I don't really see the problem with her making a fuss of your children. They are children's siblings and a bit more love never did any child any harm

Stickytofpud · 07/06/2023 01:12

I am sorry that i have come across as hideous. There's seeing my children and there's cuddling and kissing my children. Would you be happy with that for your children?

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