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To think reborn dolls are disturbing?

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Hazel2323 · 18/05/2023 14:04

I've just ended up down a rabbit hole on Facebook of people into reborn dolls. What the hell. Ive heard of them before but never knew just how many people are into them and the extent the obsession goes to. Dressing them, doing newborn photo shoots. They are the creepiest thing I've seen in a long time and I just can't understand why anyone would have one. Some say it's a hobby. Some have it after baby loss. Either way it's bizarre and not healthy.
I also don't like that these people are buying baby clothes to dress a doll in and toys/blankets/cots/bottles etc that real families could actually use. It seems terribly wasteful.

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Worriedmotheroftwo · 18/05/2023 22:49

OP, you sound really nasty.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 18/05/2023 22:48

davegrohll · 18/05/2023 15:51

Do you know what dementia is ?

You need to educate yourself about dementia as you clearly have no idea about it.

VWHoliday · 18/05/2023 22:12

Tellmeimcrazy · 18/05/2023 22:06

Of course they aren't safe for YOUNG children. However, if you have always been into dolls and carried on as you got older then these may be an evolution. I was trying to delve deeper into a previous comment that was referring to regular dolls and these dolls.

I have actually learnt a lot from this thread about dementia and child loss. Very sad.

I personally don't like them. People can't help how they feel about things.

If they help people it's brilliant.

Tellmeimcrazy · 18/05/2023 22:06

VWHoliday · 18/05/2023 16:16

They aren't safe for children though. Adults only.

I've seen quite a lot on TikTok. There was this young woman with a much older Husband and they had two.

Of course they aren't safe for YOUNG children. However, if you have always been into dolls and carried on as you got older then these may be an evolution. I was trying to delve deeper into a previous comment that was referring to regular dolls and these dolls.

LT2 · 18/05/2023 21:09

It's not something I'm into and likely will never own but I don't judge those that do. I've never lost a child so i can't say I wouldn't want one if it happened. No one can judge if they haven't lived that life. I do find the dolls fascinating rather than creepy though. There are talented people out there! If only I was talented like that!

elliejjtiny · 18/05/2023 20:52

I don't have any feelings about other people having them but I wouldn't get one myself because they remind me of how my youngest looked when he was born, all floppy and not breathing.

Comedycook · 18/05/2023 20:43

CombatBarbie · 18/05/2023 19:45

My daughter had 2, I was a bit weirded out at first but my daughter used it like a doll. However from the true likeness, weight etc and ours was eyes closed sleeping, I'm sure you can imagine the incidents we had when out and out with a doll buggy and dd picking it up with one arm etc 🙈🙄😂

Ha! My DD used to have a life size doll...size of a toddler...not a reborn one. Once we were in the playground and I was pushing my DD on the swing...when I went to lift her out of it, I dropped the doll onto the ground so I could use both hands. A woman from afar audibly gasped and looked horrified and I had to shout across the playground, don't worry it's a doll!

PurpleSky09 · 18/05/2023 20:35

It doesn't bother me at all and I don't find it weird. If it makes them happy so what, they aren't harming anyone.

CombatBarbie · 18/05/2023 19:45

My daughter had 2, I was a bit weirded out at first but my daughter used it like a doll. However from the true likeness, weight etc and ours was eyes closed sleeping, I'm sure you can imagine the incidents we had when out and out with a doll buggy and dd picking it up with one arm etc 🙈🙄😂

TheoTheopolis23 · 18/05/2023 19:30

WhoWants2Know · 18/05/2023 17:39

For people with dementia, (I'm mainly talking about Alzheimer's but it can happen in other types too) short term memory is one of the first things to go.

So if a person has progressed to the stage where they are looking for their baby (who is now grown), they won't really be retaining events enough to process that the baby is always sleeping. And yes, the same conversation can happen repeatedly, almost on a loop.

But ideally the process of making the cup of tea will re-focus the person's attention for a few minutes and then you can move on to a new activity when they have finished the tea.

Thank you for answering - diplomatically and informatively - unlike one poster.

All.I can say is that I have the greatest respect for people who care for people with dementia.

Comedycook · 18/05/2023 18:53

Evasmissingletter · 18/05/2023 16:55

My mum had one of these when she had dementia and loved him. She thought it was her baby son, my elder brother, and she spent hours cuddling and chatting to him. He bought her much joy in the last year of her life. She had lost all her short term memory and I do feel she thought he was real and just asleep. I find the OPs comments quite upsetting, lacking empathy and judgemental. Just because people find joy or comfort in things the OP thinks are weird doesn’t mean they have Mental Health issues.

Quite moved reading this. Bless her, who are we to judge?

YeahYouDo · 18/05/2023 18:15

I think the odd thing is that this bothers you so much that you make a thread about it.

The fake bs reason of the ‘waste’. Of all the ‘eco’ causes to worry about, this is tiny. Instead I think this is just a dig at those that have these dolls, and when you know people say they find them helpful after losing a child, it’s very nasty to post this. You know that though.

I’ve seen women on tiktok with them, they often seem vulnerable, have gone through something traumatic, are infertile or have mental health issues and people like you post your ‘I don’t understand’ bollocks. Are you one of those mean girls?

Are you going to start threads on all the things you don’t ‘understaaaaaaand’? 🙄

IrregularChoiceFan · 18/05/2023 18:06

Stella123456 · 18/05/2023 16:00

Right. I’m off to find this pronto.

Try and find the pictures of the birth, even got a dr doll for the occasion and a hospital room set up. It really is something to see!

Op, why you would want to shit over the feelings of a woman who has lost her baby is beyond me but each to their own I guess. I find that far odder behaviour than someone seeking comfort in a realistic doll.

AlwaysGinPlease · 18/05/2023 17:56

SirenSays · 18/05/2023 15:58

I think they can be a bit uncanny valley but I'm not surprised they're good for dementia. My grandfather had a little scottie dog Teddy that brought him so much joy and stopped him pining for a real dog he could never have cared for.

@SirenSays Oh that made me cry, how sweet. Also @Evasmissingletter your post did too.

I think it's a thing people like and find comfort in, that doesn't hurt or affect anyone else. Some very judgy people here.

BarelyLiterate · 18/05/2023 17:53

I find these dolls bizarre, weird & creepy, but I’m never going to own one.

My understanding is that many of the women who do own them are either unable to have children or have suffered miscarriage(s) and / or child bereavement. They apparently find the dolls helpful in dealing with the resulting mental health issues, so who am I to judge?

SlashBeef · 18/05/2023 17:46

I find them a bit scary especially the very realistic ones. A bit too uncanny valley for me but I know they can help some people. The only thing I truly take issue with is using real formula for them.

WhoWants2Know · 18/05/2023 17:43

SirenSays · 18/05/2023 15:58

I think they can be a bit uncanny valley but I'm not surprised they're good for dementia. My grandfather had a little scottie dog Teddy that brought him so much joy and stopped him pining for a real dog he could never have cared for.

I don't know this will feel any less creepy, but there are also sleeping dogs and cats for people with dementia. They make all different breeds and their chests rise and fall as they breathe. 😁

WhoWants2Know · 18/05/2023 17:39

TheoTheopolis23 · 18/05/2023 15:46

The person who said they're used for women with dementia to reassure them and stop the panicked distressing searching for their baby whom they feel they should be looking after - this is a genuine question - don't they notice they're not real, don't they notice they don't wake up, are you saying they repeatedly return to one moment where the carer says "your baby is here sleeping, let's gave a cup of tea" on repeat and never get past that moment?

For people with dementia, (I'm mainly talking about Alzheimer's but it can happen in other types too) short term memory is one of the first things to go.

So if a person has progressed to the stage where they are looking for their baby (who is now grown), they won't really be retaining events enough to process that the baby is always sleeping. And yes, the same conversation can happen repeatedly, almost on a loop.

But ideally the process of making the cup of tea will re-focus the person's attention for a few minutes and then you can move on to a new activity when they have finished the tea.

JadeSkies · 18/05/2023 17:36

Like others on this thread, I’ve have had to endure the agony of going home without my babies. I don’t have a reborn doll but I understand why they might provide a tiny bit of comfort.

The mere existence of these dolls doesn’t affect you one bit. Be thankful that you don’t know what it feels like to suffer the loss of a child rather than merrily passing judgement on people who have been through unimaginable (to you) pain

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 18/05/2023 17:36

I wonder how much of OP's prejudice is against the dolls and how much is against people struggling with their mental health, and in her eyes "not getting proper help".

cannaecookrisotto · 18/05/2023 17:26

I find the extent you give a shit about people owning dolls, weirder than said dolls 🤷🏼‍♀️.

RobertaFirmino · 18/05/2023 17:03

Something else has just occurred to me - some people really do seem to find comfort in these dolls. I expect these people might have turned to the NHS or Social Services otherwise (or not needed their help any longer). It would be fair to say (IMO) that they have the potential to lessen the strain on these services. Even if it's only a tiny bit. That's definitely not something to be slated.

Tandora · 18/05/2023 16:59

Hazel2323 · 18/05/2023 14:23

@Kanaloa oh my, that is so strange!

I don't even understand the baby loss reason. If I lost a baby the last thing I would want is a doll?!

These people need psychological help. If my husband died and I wanted a life size doll to replace him people wouldn't be so accepting of it!

And the wasteful comment is because I'm quite eco conscious and these plastic dolls, abundance of clothes etc is unnecessary. That's my opinion.

Since you have never lost a baby, it’s intolerable that you feel qualified to comment on that tbh.

and your comments about waste are ridiculous. People spend money on all kinds of things.

fajitaaa · 18/05/2023 16:57

Evasmissingletter · 18/05/2023 16:55

My mum had one of these when she had dementia and loved him. She thought it was her baby son, my elder brother, and she spent hours cuddling and chatting to him. He bought her much joy in the last year of her life. She had lost all her short term memory and I do feel she thought he was real and just asleep. I find the OPs comments quite upsetting, lacking empathy and judgemental. Just because people find joy or comfort in things the OP thinks are weird doesn’t mean they have Mental Health issues.

I also think it diminishes those who do have mental health issues and find them helpful.

Evasmissingletter · 18/05/2023 16:55

My mum had one of these when she had dementia and loved him. She thought it was her baby son, my elder brother, and she spent hours cuddling and chatting to him. He bought her much joy in the last year of her life. She had lost all her short term memory and I do feel she thought he was real and just asleep. I find the OPs comments quite upsetting, lacking empathy and judgemental. Just because people find joy or comfort in things the OP thinks are weird doesn’t mean they have Mental Health issues.