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To want my son to go to a higher achieving Uni?

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Namingchangeagain · 15/05/2023 13:59

My son now has A star AA at A-level and is on his year out. He has four unconditional offers from universities (going this September) and three of those unis are considered ‘top’ - Bristol, Durham and Leeds. However, he wants to go Aberystwyth - who have also offered him a place. We think he is aiming too low (most students on the course will have BBB whereas our son has A star AA). AIBU?

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Namingchangeagain · 15/05/2023 22:04

DS is full of surprises - not only did he firm Aber last week but he chose his halls too and signed up for a free Open University course to learn very basic Welsh! He knows Welsh is not required but thought it would be respectful to be able to speak a tiny bit before he goes. My boy has grown up over his gap year and I hadn’t appreciated just how much! He has still got to learn to cook though 😂

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Scottishskifun · 15/05/2023 22:01

@Namingchangeagain that's PJM Pentre Jane Morgan great accommodation 2 bathrooms shared between 6 and a huge kitchen space

MidlifeWhatNow · 15/05/2023 22:00

Ahhh, Pentre Jane Morgan is lovely; I lived there in my 3rd year when it was first built.

Good for you, OP. Honestly, it's a fantastic place. You won't regret supporting him, and I hope he has a wonderful time.

Namingchangeagain · 15/05/2023 21:52

@Scottishskifun he has selected Jane Morgan or something like that? Self-catered. Don’t think he has been allocated yet though

@RockGirl that’s great! My DS has surprised me by his excellent decision-making as it turns out!

@Piggywaspushed he does indeed know his onions! Time for me to well and truly cut the apron strings now - he’s clearly got this!

@MaybeWednesday i am super proud of him now tbh. He knows his own mind and is more well-informed than me. Thank you. I will step back now and just cheer him on from the sidelines!

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Scottishskifun · 15/05/2023 21:41

Namingchangeagain · 15/05/2023 20:49

Update - I am BU. Have taken all the above on board and particularly those about Aber being birthplace of IR and great for languages. My son has made a brilliant choice it seems - am fully behind him now and rather proud. Thank you all very much. Oh - and son has just told me that he firmed Aber, unbeknown to us, last week 😂 so it is a done deal anyway!

Next is his halls decision!

The catered accommodation you had to remove your stuff at Xmas and Easter so he might want the self catering and you can get a food card if he's a terrible cook!

I loved living in PJM halls as it was little houses rather then flats and lots of green space to sit out on.

RockGirl · 15/05/2023 21:35

Aber is a really decent uni. It just won two coveted awards at the 2023 Whatuni Student Choice Awards (WUSCA).

Aberystwyth picked up awards for Lecturers and Teaching Quality and Student Life. They also came in third overall in the University of the Year category, the highest placed Welsh university.

Mirabai · 15/05/2023 21:21

ChocChipHandbag · 15/05/2023 21:06

@Mirabai Aberystwyth University doesn't interview candidates.
You might as well be imagining a conversation with a Unicorn.

“Notional” 😂 Are you this pedantic in real life?

Piggywaspushed · 15/05/2023 21:19

Oh, I see he's chosen. Good lad.

Piggywaspushed · 15/05/2023 21:18

I was waiting for the subject. He knows his onions. Aberystwyth for IR.

IheartNiles · 15/05/2023 21:06

Maybe try and unpick what it is that is influencing his decision, list pros and cons together.

did you say the rural idyll was a part of it and that Exeter was also an option? That might be a happy compromise in los of ways.

ChocChipHandbag · 15/05/2023 21:06

@Mirabai Aberystwyth University doesn't interview candidates.
You might as well be imagining a conversation with a Unicorn.

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 21:05

eggsbenedict23 · 15/05/2023 20:46

Yes that was I was thinking. The people who are driven and want to earn loads choose LSE. Instead of LSE creating people who have the earning power. (Though I assume LSE helps a bit)

Thinking about it though LSE is a bit of a special case in that it has a lot of alumni in desirable roles. Who are not only willing, but able to come and give talks etc because it's based in London. Which also allows you to do things like part-time work with a lot of employers in a 'subsidiary' role and meet people actually in the business. As opposed to those chosen as 'ambassadors' in outreach talks or whatever.

Internationally it has an excellent reputation. I went straight to the final round of interviews (such as investment bank and other financial institutions) for internships (and jobs) in my home country and a couple of others. From speaking to my peers this doesn't really happen for anybody else except for Oxbridge and Imperial (if we're talking British universities).

Of course there is also the case that it has a lot of well-connected people..

This thread isn't about LSE, and the OP has updated us as to the very happy outcome. But university choice is very interesting.

There are so many variables as to someone's personality, academic ability, type of role etc that it is impossible to give blanket advice. It's not true that 'RG' is the best (in fact can anybody name all 24 members?). It's also not true that the university has no impact on your future career.

Ultimately I think choosing with an understanding of your personality, and goals is important.

MaybeWednesday · 15/05/2023 21:05

@Namingchangeagain your update post made me cry!

What a wonderful mum you sound. Took all the opinions onboard, reflected and agreed with your son.

You should be tremendously proud of your son and of yourself for bringing up an intelligent independent young man.

Here's to the update in 3 years time saying he's graduated!

mumwon · 15/05/2023 21:04

But at the end of the day...its his choice

mumwon · 15/05/2023 21:03

with one of my dc they were unsure which to choose.. so i did a list with them and suggested they mark each university for what they considered was important --- aka course, accommodation, cost, etc get him to look up how the university is marked for the respective course by student feedback
Some redbrick universities are renown for certain subjects. Oceanography at Aber and geography too if I remember rightly amongst others. Accountancy too.

MakesMeFeelSad · 15/05/2023 21:01

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 20:54

Wow you are getting more angry, maybe have a cup of tea and calm down

🤣🤣 angry .
You are quite amusing . You obviously don't cope well with other people's opinions, resorting to petty put downs . Your opinion isn't any more valid than than other people's you know.

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 20:54

MakesMeFeelSad · 15/05/2023 20:52

Why would I have had a nerve hit? I'm not the one posting sad faces because my son has a different opinion on unis to me

He's not a child, he's 19. Maybe he knows his own mind! Why should his mum had the final stamp of approval?

Op hasn't said he is being held back by fear you're projecting there!

Wow you are getting more angry, maybe have a cup of tea and calm down

MakesMeFeelSad · 15/05/2023 20:52

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 20:41

No, it's you who's had a nerve hit by the OP.
All she has said was she thinks her son is 'aiming lower'.
There's a lot of room between leaving it completely up to them and having the final stamp of approval.

Trust parents to know their own child. As much as there are people going 'I went to an RG and hated it' there are also many who held back for fear of not being good enough, and later wish they had gone for it.

Why would I have had a nerve hit? I'm not the one posting sad faces because my son has a different opinion on unis to me

He's not a child, he's 19. Maybe he knows his own mind! Why should his mum had the final stamp of approval?

Op hasn't said he is being held back by fear you're projecting there!

Gilead · 15/05/2023 20:50

Dd went to Aber, loved it (She had threeA* and an A. She is still friends with lecturers and students she was with. She has an extremely good, well paid job.
It’s a good uni with excellent pastoral care (yes I’ve seen the papers but we found it good). It’s a pleasant living environment too.

Namingchangeagain · 15/05/2023 20:49

Update - I am BU. Have taken all the above on board and particularly those about Aber being birthplace of IR and great for languages. My son has made a brilliant choice it seems - am fully behind him now and rather proud. Thank you all very much. Oh - and son has just told me that he firmed Aber, unbeknown to us, last week 😂 so it is a done deal anyway!

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eggsbenedict23 · 15/05/2023 20:46

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 20:44

Well because the sort of people who choose LSE economics are the sort who are after the money.
Of course, there are other factors like being in London etc but the reputation of a university makes the cohort select themselves.
When I was there it was full of spring week applications before Fresher's week had even started!

Yes that was I was thinking. The people who are driven and want to earn loads choose LSE. Instead of LSE creating people who have the earning power. (Though I assume LSE helps a bit)

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 20:44

eggsbenedict23 · 15/05/2023 20:28

Well my son showed me the LSE economics open day recordings which showed LSE graduates top the earnings. But in the video the professor said "take this with a pinch of salt".

Well because the sort of people who choose LSE economics are the sort who are after the money.
Of course, there are other factors like being in London etc but the reputation of a university makes the cohort select themselves.
When I was there it was full of spring week applications before Fresher's week had even started!

AllegraWalterJones · 15/05/2023 20:41

MakesMeFeelSad · 15/05/2023 19:56

Hit a nerve did I?

No one, I've never had parents who would use money to try and control me

No, it's you who's had a nerve hit by the OP.
All she has said was she thinks her son is 'aiming lower'.
There's a lot of room between leaving it completely up to them and having the final stamp of approval.

Trust parents to know their own child. As much as there are people going 'I went to an RG and hated it' there are also many who held back for fear of not being good enough, and later wish they had gone for it.

SmartHome · 15/05/2023 20:40

Dorisbonson · 15/05/2023 20:34

I hire people into my team in roles of a £150k+ a year. Aberystwyth is fine but not exactly academically rigourous and wouldn't mark your child out from the crowd.

A top university will always carry a degree of prestige and whilst it a low priority it's reassuring and also highlights brighter graduates. Having said that Aberystwyth wouldn't stop me from hiring someone but it's not exactly an advantage and two people I am about to hire for salaries of circa £120k and £170k don't have degrees at all. They both came through specialist recruiters and might have been filtered out by AI if they had applied through the website.

Are these graduate roles?

lupinlapain · 15/05/2023 20:39

Aberystwyth:

Small town
Great scenery
Beach and mountains within east reach
Good reputation for IR
One of the few places in the UK where you can live in a bi-lingual setting.
Lots of international students
Students around all week. (No empty halls at weekends)
Beautiful train journey to get there.
Town and campus all within walking distance
Small enough to ensure personal attention.

There are so many positives about Aber which explains why student satisfaction is so high.

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