The WHO want your four year old to be taught about masturbation and gender identity

I'd like them to come on and comment about something that isn't happening too.

Agree with you. Very worrying that Labour might win in the autumn; they see no problem with this.

WRONG.

Childhood masturbation is normal childhood development and not an indicator of sexual abuse.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Sexual-Behaviors-Young-Children.aspx

https://learning.nspcc.org.uk/child-health-development/sexual-behaviour#article-top -

Why are so many people here not reading the thread and just jumping on to talk nonsense?

It's often considered a sign of sexual abuse, that a child has been abused and 'shown' how to do it. At least if it is overt and excessive, along with other sexualised behaviours.

One of the problems with this is that paedophiles, and paedophile adjacent people, are very, very practised at choosing their wording.

It's designed to result in plausible deniability, if questioned. To the extent that it can make people feel uncomfortable if they do question it. It can make them feel they are overreacting.

The next layer of that is to tell them they are pearl clutching, hysterical, etc.

Well, firstly, I want to people who analyse what my children are learning to start from a position of deep suspicion and take it from there. What's the safeguarding alternative?

And secondly, people like Safe Schools Alliance are exactly that. They know all the code words that are used to spread paedophilia. They know the twists and turns used in language to get things rubberstamped by the naive. They know exactly how operating in plain sight works, how it is facilitated, and why it's deliberately made quite difficult to challenge it.

I'm bloody glad they exist, and I want them to crack on. I've tagged them and hopefully they'll come on and comment.

The employees own legal counsel say she was fired for breaching confidentiality etc. It is only the media which are reporting she was fired for not using pronouns.

If you have any genuine cases of someone being fired for not using pronouns that would be very interesting.

IT IS NOT A WHO DOCUMENT.

READ THE THREAD.

I hadn't heard that case you mention but given the amount of staff/employees in places who are fired over not using pronouns, I would trust the employee on this, not the school who are more than likely lying to cover their backsides.

They already know about masturbation because they all do it.
Nobody is teaching them.
And they do need to learn about boundaries.

Yes coming across as bot from a particular country happy to sow the seeds of paranoia…

I'm not sure you understand that precocious understanding of sexuality in children is a sign of SEXUAL ABUSE. So if any child knew about masturbation and pleasure at that age, investigations would go on to find out who taught them about this. Teaching children that young is called GROOMING and is a sign of abuse or molestation. That's how doctors, child psychologists and social workers/services know a child has been abused. So if those 2 countries you mentioned allow this to occur, then if a child is actually sexually abused there is no way to tell.

The paper says 'this is not a curriculum nor does it provide detailed recommendations for operationalizing child sexual education at a country level'.

It's global advice for a diverse world on a framework that countries may or may not decide to implement.

It also explicitly says sex education isn't just about schools but also healthcare providers and non -stat organisations.

Literally NOWHERE is the WHO suggesting that any school in anywhere in the world teach what you quoted.

For younger children "enjoying your body" covers things like looking at how our bodies are put together such as joints, muscles, nerves, etc. and appreciating it as a well-engineered machine (for want of a better word). It also covers looking at what we're good at, for example football, climbing, running. It covers how to keep our bodies healthy so we can carry on enjoying those things.

"Physical enjoyment and excitement" would be focused on emotional literacy - e.g., how do we know when someone is happy or excited? They might smile, they might look relaxed, they could be laughing, they could be jumping up and down, etc.

"Physical closeness to others" would look at positive contact with others such as sitting together and sharing a space or activity and sharing physical affection such as holding hands or hugging. Alongside that it would also look at respecting personal space and boundaries, who it is appropriate to be physically affectionate with and when, where it's okay to touch, respecting when people don't want to be touched, PANTS rules, and so on.

Five year olds absolutely do need to know it and not all parents teach it which is part of the reason it is covered in schools.

A winner of my voice of reason for today.

Funny how some skip straight to s.e.x. (the fucking kind).

It literally mentions teaching 0-4 year olds about masturbation and reproduction in the WHO’s sex ed document. It is available to view online. This is not age appropriate. Children don’t need to learn about sex and reproduction until they learn about puberty further up primary school (I’d say 8+). They definitely don’t need to know about masturbation.

For younger children "enjoying your body" covers things like looking at how our bodies are put together such as joints, muscles, nerves, etc. and appreciating it as a well-engineered machine (for want of a better word). It also covers looking at what we're good at, for example football, climbing, running. It covers how to keep our bodies healthy so we can carry on enjoying those things.

"Physical enjoyment and excitement" would be focused on emotional literacy - e.g., how do we know when someone is happy or excited? They might smile, they might look relaxed, they could be laughing, they could be jumping up and down, etc.

"Physical closeness to others" would look at positive contact with others such as sitting together and sharing a space or activity and sharing physical affection such as holding hands or hugging. Alongside that it would also look at respecting personal space and boundaries, who it is appropriate to be physically affectionate with and when, where it's okay to touch, respecting when people don't want to be touched, PANTS rules, and so on.

Five year olds absolutely do need to know it and not all parents teach it which is part of the reason it is covered in schools.

Did I say Russian troll?

Indeed. And anyone saying there's nothing to see here, quite so vehemently, is, to me, suspicious in itself.

If there is genuinely nothing to see then holding the entire organisation to account, getting it all on the table, and taking a good look, can only be a good thing.

I can't think of a single legitimate reason why anyone would object to that.

Does the WHO have some sort of web alert/bat signal thing going on?

You can also ask questions about vaccines supported by WHO during the COVId and other actions but...don't be surprised to be chased by police later, losing your job and getting your bank account canceled not following the agenda and asking too much questions

Dangerous misinformation.

MN should really have a better hold on deleting shit like this.

This!!

the ok was directed to the tin foil hat post above

OK ...

I’ve found the number of people downplaying this sinister stuff on the first few pages and accusing OP/Telegraph of hysteria is erm….. worrying.

And, for the record, of course WHO is, in the main, a highly respected and valuable health organisation vital to today’s globalised world. That does not mean it’s work should not be carefully examined and held accountable. Like all institutions, it’s also political and vulnerable to institutional capture.

It’s not a matter of WHO = good or WHO = bad.