The WHO want your four year old to be taught about masturbation and gender identity

I guess if people think 'teaching children about masturbation' = 'teaching children how to masturbate' like some posters on this thread have jumped to then 'teaching children about oral sex' = 'teaching children how to apply condoms orally' isnt that great a leap of logic.

When you add in the various posts about how awful things are happening in welsh schools which are not in fact happening (mostly im guessing by non welsh posters) at a time when labour are leading wales and we are coming up to a general election with a weak conservative government it all makes total sense.

There are concerning things happening in the world and in the UK. But some of these posts around the shock and horror of teaching kids sex ed have a wiff of puritaism to them

If a 14 year old had reported a teacher taught them at school to give blow jobs then it would be investigated.

That's not what's happened here. Here, an anonymous person online claimed they had an anonymous niece that 5 years ago was taught to give BJs in an anonymous school.

Do you not see the difference?

No-ones accusing a 14 year of lying, they're accusing an anonymous poster online of talking bullshit.

Yes it is.
Just because you havent seen it, it doesnt mean its nor normal or doesnt happen.
Parents tend to tell kids to not touch themselves in public. And from a certain age, they understand that.
But all my friends who have boys have reported this kind of behaviour.
And my nephew is still a bit too young to understand, so he did play with his penis at the beach, and then didnt want it covered.

They are not hypersexualised. They are the normal kind of sexualised.

The childs parents, absolutely they could have done something about it

Random unrelated posters absolutely not, its perfectly fine to question it and apply critical thinking

No one is telling the child they are lying, unless the aunt randomly decides to pass that information on in the unlikely case any of this is true and not exaggerated, and if she did that would be on the aunt not the other posters.

The only people posing the risk are posters telling people to believe everything they read on the internet and an aunt who apparently did nothing to encourage the adults in the nieces life to do anything about it and just posts about it online instead.

Schools still have to adhere to a curriculum and national standards you fool.

They can't just go 'off piste' and decide they want teachers to teach blow jobs.

They're publicly funded institutions and as such, can't just do what the hell they like.

Why you are so desperate to believe adult teachers are getting teenage pupils to simulate blow jobs is suggesting you have a problem. Not that it is actually happening.

Use your common sense. No teacher is going to teach safe sex by suggesting sticking a condom in your mouth, where your teeth might damage it, as a method of putting it on a penis.

In a thread about safeguarding, shouldn't we tell adults to believe children like the OP's niece and not accuse them of lying?

Again, you cannot possibly know it didn't happen because all schools are DIFFERENT. Just because it's not actually officially in the curriculum does not mean teachers don't utilise various teaching methods to teach what is in the curriculum.

Yes, masturbation in children is normal, but this level of obsession and hyper-sexualised behaviour in this: but 4 year old boys will NOT leave their penises alone! They are obsessed! Of course they know how to masturbate, even if they dont know what it is.
My nearly 3 year old nephew had a meltdown the other day, as, after being naked for a bit at the beach, he didnt want a diaper put on, as he wanted to play with his penis...

is NOT normal!

So in a thread about safeguarding the message you seem to want to be pushing is that people are bad if they dont automatically believe that posters on social media are who they say they are and should always be believed?

Yes. This is most likely the explanation.

Teachers aren't getting teachers to simulate a blow job on a banana in class.

Yes. This is most likely the explanation.

Yes I call people liars when they're lying.

She is lying. It didn't happen. It is not part of the UK sex Ed curriculum and isn't happening and hasn't happened 5 years ago.

It's not about 'personal experience' it's about knowledge of schools, curriculum and people talking complete bollocks on the Internet.

When people come on here saying that their kid said this and that about school posters always remind them that kids arent always the most reliable narrators

But suddenly we are supposed to fall over ourselves to believe that a 14 year old was made to use their mouth to put a condom on a banana, and that the teacher had deliberately bought in flavours condoms to do so. And that after telling their family members about it the grown ups all laughed merrily and did nothing, including that poster who is apparently now up in arms about it?

This sounds rather too much like my sisters husbands aunt saw aliens so they must exist

At 14, our class had the 'putting condoms on bananas' lesson - at least two kids did indeed then do it with their mouths, behind the teachers back, to get a rise out of the rest of the class.

Both were typical class clowns, no teacher TOLD them to and when one was caught they were sent out for being a twat.

I can absolutely see someone going home and either for shits and giggles, shock value or because they hadn't understood the context, repeating this to a parent.

None of that disregards what she said originally. She said her niece told her, so I think we can all take it as read that the poster wasn't there. But her niece was. And her niece told her.

Do you usually go around calling people liars just because you personally don't have experience that something happened, so you automatically assume it didn't happen? Is that what you normally do? Accuse people of liars/accuse their relative of lying?

So if you bother to read current WHO guidance on their website - which is not directed for implementation in specific countries, it covers gender in the context of gender stereotyping, tackling gender based violence and empowering women and girls. In steps broken down by age group

Yes. As well as challenging early marriage, early pregnancy and supporting sexual and reproductive health.

Some part of me believes it's to normalize relationships where no one has a child, identity of self be that furry,queer, everything else, being a responsible adult and having a family is looking like be very vanilla and niche in the future.
Reduced population= less resource and climate issues

hopefully a very small part with the bigger bit being more rational.

So if you bother to read current WHO guidance on their website - which is not directed for implementation in specific countries, it covers gender in the context of gender stereotyping, tackling gender based violence and empowering women and girls. In steps broken down by age group.

Please read the actual document as there’s so much misinformation on the thread.

Some part of me believes it's to normalize relationships where no one has a child, identity of self be that furry,queer, everything else, being a responsible adult and having a family is looking like be very vanilla and niche in the future.
Reduced population= less resource and climate issues.

Teachers are not teaching teenagers to put condoms on with their mouth.

You need to provide evidence that that is part of UK sex Ed

She said:

"Happened indeed. Well, I wasn't there but the 14yo was. A school in Kent.
We were gobsmacked but the actual family found it somewhat amusing"

"And Strangely (not really) enough, Kent is just the sort of sex-positive, liberal county where the banana+condom would happen. I actually hope it didn't but the teen was convincingly shocked, blushing and weirded-out whilst telling me about it"

So Queen Camilla was acknowledging she wasn't there, having a bizarre idea that it COULD happen in Kent and hoped it didn't happen.

Which is acknowledging it might not have been true.

Do you think 14 year olds were being taught to give a blow job to a banana in school and her family found it amusing? And this wasn't raised as an issue by any teachers or parents and didn't make it's way into the press? That non-curriculum blow job sex Ed was happening in Kent? As a 'sex-positive Liberal county' that would somehow not be subject to national sex Ed curriculum?

You think it's likely that this was happening with no-one mentioning it? But that it's more likely that an anonymous poster on MN 5 years after the alleged incident suggests it happened and her family thought it was funny?

Do you not know how people evaluate evidence? And conclude if something is likely to be true or not?

Do you believe everything anonymous people on the Internet say even if it goes against all actual evidence to the contrary?

It seems unlikely that ALL the children I meet are hypersexualised, and are abnormal.
However, as I remember from being a child who played Doctor in kindergarden, we didnt do it in front of adults.
So maybe youve repressed your memories form that time, and as an adult dont get to see the evidence of what is happening right in front of you. Or maybe you have very little contact with small children.

Also, ask a pediatrician if it is normal for young children to masturbate and theyll tell you it is not unusual at all!
just because you dont believe it/see it, it doesnt make it not true!

The obsession part seems over stated ime

Or maybe we've been around normal children and you've been around hyper-sexualised children. So you automatically assume that's normal for children.