The WHO want your four year old to be taught about masturbation and gender identity

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It would be the same with pushing a religion. Except this religion comes with glitter, rainbows, and "be kind" admonishments followed by swift public takedown and excommunication for non-believers.

It's nothing to do with LGB, who've been hijacked for the purposes of queer theory and a patriarchal agenda.

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A beautiful example of what I meant right there.
Get a life.

To clarify, my response was aimed at the OP.

I've not read any replies, as the mother of a trans child I don't want to potentially get sucked in to a discussion that may make me see red.

Pushing gender identity and sexuality on children is degenerate and pure social engineering.

Great, and?

My four year old has a trans older sibling so is already aware of gender identity.
Guess what? She isn't scarred or mentally damaged by it.

Stop clutching your pearls, grow up and try living in the real world. Jesus, it's ridiculous that there are people that are still this 'delicate' over everyday things.

Grow up.

Oh I've just read the rest of the thread and realised posters have already pointed out about small children having their hands down their pants and needing to be told not to. That's basically it. Just because it's sexual for adults doesn't mean it's inherently sexual for kids. It's just a sensation in their body that they are learning about through experimentation.

I don't get the stress about "early childhood masturbation". Some children do explore their bodies, and find out that what adults call "masturbation" feels good. In a non-sexual way. Feels rather daft to put it on here, but I was doing a rudimentary form of over the clothes "masturbation" from when I was a small child, no sexual abuse, it's just that I found out that it was a nice sensation and it helped me to get to sleep. Of course, I had to be taught that it was okay to touch my crotch area when I was somewhere private, such as in bed or in the bathroom, but that it was not okay to do it in front of other people. I suspect that's what the note on "early childhood masturbation" is referring to. It's just a part of childhood development, for some children. They're not saying "teach children how to masturbate", they're saying "teach children that some activities [including this particular developmental stage for some kids] are private". The sexual link doesn't come until much much later.

Read = thread

Currently the poll is 20% YABU, 80%YANBU, yet the posters on the read seem to be the reverse.

Some posters are trying to say that teaching safe sex and about bodily consent is because people are pedophiles.

I would imagine that actually for pedophiles it much better to advocate for no sex education and children to be unaware of their rights to bodily consent.

Please do point out the posts where there are sick peverse attitudes?

Except for the posts where people are adamant that teachers must be teaching children how to masturbate and how to perform oral sex and that a boy even touching his penis is because hes being abused. Because that says more about their attitudes and interests than it does anything else.

It's a fact-based section of the curriculum, as in "here are the facts about sex, including oral sex". Factual, unambiguous information alongside teaching about safe sex, healthy relationships and the legalities (e.g., consent).

There is no practical segment of the sex education curriculum. We do not ask the class to demonstrate what they've learned or send them off to practice it.

Informative sex education reduces teen pregnancy, reduces STIs, reduces abusive relationships and promotes health.

Why wouldn't you want teens to know that? If you think there aren't 14yr olds out there having sex then you're deluded, better they have the knowledge to do it safely than bumble along uninformed.

When I was at school oral sex was on the curriculum so they could teach us that some stds can be transmitted via oral sex and therefore we should still use condoms

Is that what you are advocating to take off the curriculum?

Same as sexual intercourse education is on the curriculum but teachers aren't fucking in front of the class or getting pupils to have sex with each other.

You're a pervert, you've made it obvious why you're so invested in this thread.

Reported.

If oral sex is on the curriculum, why would it not be taught?

You're the one who is weirdly desperate to deny it's happening and I don't know why.

This is very misleading. People looking for an excuse to be outraged as per usual.

Is education about oral sex part of the curriculum? Yes.

Is it that teachers are teaching pupils to give BJs? Or put on condoms with their mouth? No. Absolutely not.

You have a weird obsession that you think things are happening in schools that are not.

You're the weirdo here obsessing about teenage sexuality and desperately wanting teachers to be doing things they're not.

Sounds like you're getting a thrill out of it to be honest since you keep ignoring every sensible poster giving facts and evidence while you go back to weird ideas teachers are teaching blow jobs.

But posted 5 years later that it might or might not have happened.

Where did she say that?

As I've given links to earlier in this thread, "excessive" masturbation can be a sign of sexual abuse. The link I provided show this. That poster said boys will NOT leave their penises alone!

They are obsessed!

And then said their nephew had a meltdown at not being able to touch his penis anymore.

There language was rather extreme. Masturbating in children is normal. But excessive masturbation is not.

Oh and apparently Queen Camilla had a 14 year old report to them that they were being taught to give BJs at school and Queen Camilla did nothing about it and other family members thought it was 'amusing'.

But posted 5 years later that it might or might not have happened.

If you're going to talk about safeguarding then Queen Camilla was the one that failed to do that.

No-one else here is saying that if a 14 year old told them they were being taught to put a condom on with their mouth at school would accuse them of being a liar, I think everyone here would report that as a safeguarding concern.

But Queen Camilla apparently did not. And that's one of many reasons why she is being accused of lying.

No-one is saying they would tell a 14 year old reporting that to them, that they were a liar. So you can drop your nonsense about 'children not being believed'.

"If a 14 year old had reported a teacher taught them at school to give blow jobs then it would be investigated."

I doubt it would be. Oral sex is part of the curriculum.

Schools can teach oral sex to teenagers like 14 year olds it's in the curriculum. So teaching how to put a condom on a banana with your mouth would be part of that, a teaching style that fits with the curriculum.

Why are you so desperate to be naive and call everyone else liars because you're naive and assume if you haven't it of it, it therefore doesn't exist?

*My nearly 3 year old nephew had a meltdown the other day, as, after being naked for a bit at the beach, he didnt want a diaper put on, as he wanted to play with his penis...

is NOT normal!*

You are the one making that sexual. If penises arent sexual for 3 year olds then how is that any different to them taking their socks off all the time to play with their feet/toes?