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The WHO want your four year old to be taught about masturbation and gender identity

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GrabbyGabby · 14/05/2023 10:47

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/13/outrage-over-who-advice-on-sexuality-for-infants/

This is where queer theory gets you. Women have been sounding the alarm on the consequences of the promotion of queer theory in all realms of life. This is what it looks like when applies to sex ed for very young children.

So, before you dismiss people like me as modern day Mary Whitehouses, just take a read and ask yourself why? What problem is this solving? Why do very young children need to be taught about sex and sexual pleasure? Are they benefiting, if not, who is?

(article behind a paywall, but there is a trick that will allow you to read it. A quick google should tell you).

Outrage over WHO advice on sexuality for infants

Guide argues that ‘sexuality education starts from birth’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/13/outrage-over-who-advice-on-sexuality-for-infants

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Camillasfagwrinkles · 14/05/2023 11:19

I really don't think small children need to know about masturbation.

LakeTiticaca · 14/05/2023 11:15

I would be calling the police if I found out adults were teaching my 4 year old to masturbate.
Why the need to push this onto kiddies barely out of babyhood.
Are they not allowed to enjoy an innocent childhood anymore?

Didimum · 14/05/2023 11:14

I’m in favour of this. The Netherlands and Denmark have long introduced this level of sex education from the age of four, primarily in order to develop the skills to protect themselves against coercion, intimidation and abuse. The introduction to violent and extreme pornography available to children has been filtering lower and lower for a decade of more. Like it or not, children do start experiencing sexually charged scenarios from a very, very young age - I have two five year olds and I have no problem whatsoever in them being taught the building the blocks to understand this and themselves. The number of adults who do not even understand the basics of this subject is woeful - perhaps if they had been educated far earlier (and they didn’t even grow up with the internet) then we might have a society of more sexually confident, respectful and knowledgeable people.

scorpiogirly · 14/05/2023 11:11

I posted about this about a year ago. I was basically called a nutter and even a paedophile for not wanting my daughter to be taught this filth.

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GrabbyGabby · 14/05/2023 11:07

Going to spend some time reading the full guidance, as I agree, it is sensible to be cautious on this topic. But the quotes above are direct quotes.

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Littlefish · 14/05/2023 11:06

You are giving misinformation. 4 year olds will not be taught about any of the things you suggest.

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GrabbyGabby · 14/05/2023 11:05

I respect your caution. There has been so much alarmism. But this is not a drill.

The WHO guidance also says that children aged four and under should be taught about “enjoyment and pleasure when touching one’s own body, early childhood masturbation”

The advice proposes that four-to-six year olds should be taught to “talk about sexual matters” and “consolidate their gender identity”.

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Astralitzia · 14/05/2023 11:05

I have screenshot the 0-4 bit from the Telegraph. It doesn't mention masturbation or sexual pleasure.

The WHO want your four year old to be taught about masturbation and gender identity
EsmeSusanOgg · 14/05/2023 11:04

Astralitzia · 14/05/2023 11:01

The ages 0-4 table in the article doesn't contain any of that though. That preview image in your OP doesn't seem to be included in the telegraph's article at all in fact. So what ages is that for?

Bearing in mind this is the same telegraph that just the other day claimed a teacher was fired for not using pronouns (which was false, she was fired for breaching security and confidentiality) I am going to withhold judgement until I see more information.

Yeah... I'm in Wales and they recently made sex and relationship mandatory for all ages. There were a lot of alarmist headlines about children of 3 and 4 being taught about gender identity and gay sex.

They are not.

The lessons for my reception aged child are entirely age appropriate and are about being kind, making friends, and how to resolve conflict if you have a falling out in your friend group. There's nothing about sex until they are much, much older. There's a bit about families sometimes looking different (single parents, same sex parents, people being adopted, biracial families) next year. But it is all very reasonable and age appropriate.

Astralitzia · 14/05/2023 11:01

The ages 0-4 table in the article doesn't contain any of that though. That preview image in your OP doesn't seem to be included in the telegraph's article at all in fact. So what ages is that for?

Bearing in mind this is the same telegraph that just the other day claimed a teacher was fired for not using pronouns (which was false, she was fired for breaching security and confidentiality) I am going to withhold judgement until I see more information.

JamSandle · 14/05/2023 10:56

Disgusting.

SquirrelSoShiny · 14/05/2023 10:55

I agree with you fwiw.

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GrabbyGabby · 14/05/2023 10:54

I wasn't aware of the research. Will do a bit more digging into that.

And parents who object to this are being branded bigots and prudes.

It is all kinds of wrong.

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ResisterRex · 14/05/2023 10:50

This is very concerning because the "research" that makes these kinds of statements is based on sexual abuse of children, reported as though they were willing participants. The Kinsey files have not been released in full and they should be.

Moreover, Wales seems to have swallowed these lines and they seem to underpin RSE in Wales, where you cannot withdraw your child.

Very very worrying all round.

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