To think that all smoking AND vaping should be illegal in public

I have a bigger issue with smoking in back gardens, you can't get away from that. At a previous house they were smoking cannabis every weekend too, police not interested

I was n a pub last week where vaping is “banned” so I was puffing my vape by stealth. The woman sitting next to us but facing away was doing a fake cough whilst taking food off her plate and chucking it on the pub floor for the dog. Tell me who’s the bigger pest

As the parent of DCs including teens I think what should be banned is all the sweetie flavours and colours of vapes. Just like the alcohol industry and alcopops, sweetie flavours, designs and pricing of vapes are designed by the tobacco industry to deliberately target children and young people and get them hooked. It's working. How many of them would take up vaping if all vapes were just tobacco flavoured and looked dull? I also think they should be as expensive as cigarettes and be plastered with health warnings. I hate the things as much as cigarettes. I grew up with a parent who smoked and it was awful. Vapes aren't much better and they are reeling in the next generation like child catchers.

It’s selfish, and they’re just addicts. They need to learn some self control and stop.

Selfish?

Quite a sweeping statement.

I might be a lot of things. But selfish isn't one of them.

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Supposed to?

People can do what they want.

I don't intend to give up ever.

I like it.

The addiction is to nicotine just like drinking loads of coffee is an addiction to caffeine

I think it's more to do with their set up. The clouds are deliberate.

This 'smoking cessation tool'

Are you supposed to wean yourselves off that too.... or are you just swapping one addiction for another?

Some people have such anger and a massive sense of superiority. It jumps off the page. I am sure all those who are rabidly opposed to vaping are just absolutely purrrfect in their own lives. Am I right?

Vaping is definitely not as anti social as cig smoking. There are other far more impactful things to get riled about really.

I think the fact that more people are vaping is a good thing. We don’t know the long term effects but we know for sure smoking cigarettes kills you. I think if pubs want to survive they need to allow drinkers to vape. Pubs are too focused on the food/kids/dogs side of things. If you want food go to a restaurant. Pubs and for drinking, smoking (vaping) and socialising. I expect I’ll be flamed but that’s my opinion

What a stupid comment. Many people, especially over the age of 30-40 vape as a smoking cessation tool. The NHS has even promoted it as such. It's far less selfish to vape as the health risks to date have been extremely low compared to smoking. Nicotine is highly addictive and moving from smoking to vaping should be supported

Big difference between passive smoking and vape clouds - someone else vaping will have zero impact on anyone else's health

Nah, doesn't bother me as long as it's out in the open air and not indoors.

People who create massive clouds with vapes are people who don't vape properly

YANBU but smokers and vapers are selfish so it won’t change.

I vape at the moment (quit smoking) and my vape does not create a massive cloud - less than an a drag on a cigarette.

Indeed. I think the majority who vape like this go largely unnoticed. Occasionally I see someone with the huge clouds of smoke. But not that often.

I think I'm quite lucky with where I live as I very rarely smell smoke or vapes.

I think the rules are already there, like no smoking or vaping indoors. No smoking or vaping on train platforms. I imagine platform guards seem as if they "couldn't care less" because that's a job where you have to pick your battles. I've seen hideous behaviour on trains and in stations which go way beyond vaping on the platform. I imagine they don't want to pick fights with peaceful (although annoying) behaviour

I equate the vapes that create massive amounts of vapour with loud engine sport cars - a "look at me, I am an alpha male as I can create so much smoke". It's ridiculous and totally not needed and IMO just signifies a small penis.

I vape at the moment (quit smoking) and my vape does not create a massive cloud - less than an a drag on a cigarette.

I'm not going to stop. On the plus side for you, it's extremely unlikely that I would ever be breathing it in to yours, or anyone else's face.

Some vapers. Just like some smokers. It also stands to reason you will be less bothered by fag smoke, because so many people have switched to vaping.

But just because there's some inconsiderate people doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone. A bit of a sledgehammer approach. After all, some of the things that I find annoying.

Loud people.
Groups of teenagers.
Escooters
Electric cars because I can't hear them coming
Authoritarian fuckwits
Perfume
People with bully type dogs. (So ban all dogs)
People using regular flights to go on pointless holidays abroad.

Where does it end? And who decides? And what happens if something is on the banned list that you happen to like / enjoy?

And anyway, there is now evidence emerging of the health risks

So only a matter of time before vaping goes the same way as smoking has.... 👏🏻

The perfume has settled on the skin rather than it being sprayed into the air

Vaping is pumped out and it's gross

Why the stupid flavours as well? Where's the point? Always going to be attractive to children

Which it seems it is.

Yes, it's vile. I don't want to breath in cigarette smoke - but even less do I want to breath in stinking chemicals full of Christ knows what. The pp who said they were like air fresheners on steroids had it spot on.

They make me wheeze and affect my chest far more than cigarette smoke. They are foul and I wish people would stop.