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Stepdaughter eating too much fruit

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Katey83 · 04/05/2023 22:47

My dsd, 7, moved in with us full
time back in January. Our situation is that I am higher earner and breadwinner on Mat leave with 5 month old baby, husband does some part time work that doesn’t bring in much (he runs our family vehicle and contributes towards household costs such as shopping etc). Dsd’s mother does not contribute towards her expenses while she is living here (indefinitely for now).

At the moment, we are on a tight budget due to my mat leave - and one thing driving me crazy is dsd eating all our fruit. We will buy a weekly shop with 2 bunches bananas, few punnets of berries, peaches, melon, grapes, tangerines etc and she will eat her way through the lot in two days. For example, yesterday she ate a punnet and a half of raspberries, three peaches, four tangerines, some grapes, a slice of melon and two bananas. This is on a school day (so she eats this at breakfast and in the evening). She is then obviously reluctant to finish a proper evening meal or try anything she dislikes. She also has had a couple of accidents with loose stools (imo this is from bingeing on fruit). She takes from the fridge without asking and leaves nothing for DH and I.

I’ve spoken to my dh about this and he says she is a growing child and at least fruit is good for her - fair enough I buy fruit partly for her to eat, but the amount seems greedy to me, and beyond what is necessary for a healthy child. I think reasonable is a small
bowl of berries and grapes along with a tangerine and banana after school as a snack and then one piece for dessert. She can also have melon and banana for breakfast along with cereal and a yoghurt. I want her to learn that food costs money, we don’t have a bottomless pit of it and you don’t just gorge on whatever you want because you are bored/tired/didn’t eat your dinner, you ration portions in a family so everyone gets a fair share, and sometimes eat less tasty things to maintain a healthy diet.

We provide substantial breakfast, lunch and dinner portions, and I try to accommodate her tastes (though she can’t just have fish fingers and strawberries as a diet, which would be her preference).When she first came to us she was also gorging like this on sweets - that’s been easier to nip in bud as dh can see how unhealthy it is. I want to handle this in a compassionate way, would I be unreasonable to stop buying fruit until dh agrees to a sensible ration for dsd?

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ireallycantthinkofaname · 06/05/2023 19:52

TeaAndTwoSugars · 06/05/2023 18:10

Oh dear just saw this on Facebook and knew I read it yesterday, it's hit the media. 😂

came here to say the same, it came up on my browser newsfeed thing earlier today

LuckySantangelo35 · 06/05/2023 19:17

@Catza

”Secondly, I am not sure why you are outsourcing the parenting to your husband. Whether you like it or not, she is part of your family and you cannot rely on your partner to do the dirty work for you”

Err, why not?! He’s her parent, not OP. He bloody should be doing the ‘dirty work’, OP!
can you explain why you think this shouldn’t be the case?!

LuckySantangelo35 · 06/05/2023 19:15

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 06/05/2023 17:48

Outsourcing the parenting of her stepdaughter to the stepdaughter’s actual father?!

Imagine.

You must have gone quite mad. 😆

@Catza

this! Why shouldn’t OP outsource the parenting of this child to their actual parent?!?

TeaAndTwoSugars · 06/05/2023 18:10

Oh dear just saw this on Facebook and knew I read it yesterday, it's hit the media. 😂

Stripedbag101 · 06/05/2023 18:04

I found.@Catza comment really sad. At first I thought she has misunderstood and thought OP’s husband was the step parent but I realised she is just sexist. She honestly thinks men shouldn’t have to parent. That it’s women’s work regardless of whether they are the actual parent.

man’s with that attitude she is not being a good role model to her step children.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 06/05/2023 17:48

Catza · 05/05/2023 23:31

Firstly, some compassion for a small child wouldn’t go amiss. Calling her greedy doesn’t look good at all and is probably reflective of your attitude towards her. Perhaps, it is not surprising that there are some behavioural problems (although, I don’t think eating a healthy snack qualifies as such)
Secondly, I am not sure why you are outsourcing the parenting to your husband. Whether you like it or not, she is part of your family and you cannot rely on your partner to do the dirty work for you. Sit her down, ask her what’s going on, explain your reasoning, teach her boundaries. I have a stepdaughter who lives with us part time and I work hard every day to develop a relationship with her and be a good role model and a parent. Did I sign up for that? No. But her well-being and development comes before my ego and emotions so all the healthy boundaries are set with love and compassion as if she was my own child.
Maybe my take on your situation is different because I come from poverty and I was similarly forbidden from taking food from the fridge without asking. It led to many years of destructive behaviour and unhealthy relationship with food AND with my parents. So be an adult - buy cheaper fruits, support her emotionally, show some care and, please, stop using judgemental language

Outsourcing the parenting of her stepdaughter to the stepdaughter’s actual father?!

Imagine.

You must have gone quite mad. 😆

blahblahblah1654 · 06/05/2023 17:31

@Ladysquamy you should have read all the OPs posts then. If she's eating fruit to the point of soiling herself it's not healthy!

Ladysquamy · 06/05/2023 17:30

I haven't rtft but for goodness sake, she's only seven and fruit is healthy. I wouldn't begrudge a child fruit. I don't think she's being 'greedy'. I think you're being mean.

Therapist41 · 06/05/2023 16:46

Speaking as a therapist this sounds like emotional eating? You mentioned she was eating a lot of sweets before & has replaced this with fruit with high sugar content like melon & bananas. The quantity she's eating sounds like it it's more about comfort than a physical hunger? I don't know the full circumstances of what happened between your stepdaughters parents or what resentment or tension she may have picked up on beforehand before moving in with you & with a new baby in the house she may be questioning where she fits in this new family? Many adults wouldn't be able to articulate their feelings around that. A child even less so. Please don't shame her or try to make her feel self-conscious about food as it can lead to eating disorders later on (I was bulimic as a teenager & even 20 years later I still feel triggered when anyone comments on what I eat.) The best antidote to comfort eating is to address the underlying cause & not the symptom. That means more hugs & physical reassurance & making a point of spending quality time on her own with her to show her she's a person of value within her family & her feelings also matter. I can completely understand that with a 5 month old baby & money worries you must be feeling very tired right now so it all feels like a lot. Please encourage your partner to step up & check in with his daughter & both approach this from a place of compassion. I dont believe that your stepdaughter is either "greedy" or inconsiderate. She's feeling sad and insecure. If my partner brought home a new girlfriend to live with us but told me he still loved me I'd probably start comfort eating too! Hope it all goes well for you & your new family :)

Nevermindkitten · 06/05/2023 16:37

Sorry there are so many comments on this post, so not read it all and sorry if repeating. Our DS is obsessed with fruit, so we had to make some adjustments to what we buy too, so writing just in case helpful.

This has probably already been said, but I would recommend keeping to cheaper fruits, apples, clementines, bananas, especially apples as I think they are slightly less sweet so healthier. Also frozen berries are cheaper than fresh, and as you would have to defrost them, it would stop her helping herself.

As long as it comes from a place of love and doesn't give her any hang ups about eating, I think it is fine to moderate her behaviour to make her healthier. Fruit is healthy, but shouldn't be binged so it upsets her stomach. Could she be upset about something so eating so much for comfort?

Our DS does have a preference for fruit too though, we try to redirect to apples and pears + have changed to frozen berries. Mainly I have just let him get on with it, but don't think it is causing issues with his digestion and he is too young to help himself.

I would maybe have a place with fruit you are happy for her to eat in the fridge (or just say she can have an apple if she is hungry) and then berries ect are for dessert. Also if the berries are are frozen anyway they will have to be heated through first and maybe eaten with yoghurt. Berries definitely should be a treat in my opinion. Frozen ones also don't have to be flown from warmer climates in winter, so better in terms of air miles too. I did let our son have in season fresh berries last year, will see what we do about it this year.

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 06/05/2023 16:03

Liorae · 06/05/2023 14:32

Expressing that in a call for help in a parenting forum is not the same as abusing or mistreating a child.
They know that. They are just fantasizing that you are their ex's wife giving them the opportunity to say horrible things. I admire how you rise above it.

This!

And we don’t know why the OP has agreed to parent and support (emotionally, financially) her DSD. Maybe the child’s mother is a complete flake? Certainly letting a child eat unlimited sweets is not exactly good parenting?

The OP has stepped up. With no experience and with limited support. And for that, she gets a load of nasty abuse. On a site for parents …

Great that the idea of a snack plate worked @Katey83 Hope you’ve not been too upset by some of the fantasists on this thread.

Liorae · 06/05/2023 14:32

Expressing that in a call for help in a parenting forum is not the same as abusing or mistreating a child.
They know that. They are just fantasizing that you are their ex's wife giving them the opportunity to say horrible things. I admire how you rise above it.

LuckySantangelo35 · 06/05/2023 14:12

HeckyPeck · 06/05/2023 14:08

Ah that's a lovely update. I'm glad she liked her snack plate 😊

@Katey83 great work op! 😊

HeckyPeck · 06/05/2023 14:08

Katey83 · 06/05/2023 11:26

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions - we tried a snack ‘plate’ yesterday and it was a success, with dsd helping to pick a range of snacks for the evening and happily not eating more than we had set aside on her special plate. For those saying I’m resentful and don’t care all I can say is please try being a stepparent for one day, let alone with a new baby and total financial responsibilities for the family and see how long you can go without a single stressed or negative thought. Expressing that in a call for help in a parenting forum is not the same as abusing or mistreating a child.

Ah that's a lovely update. I'm glad she liked her snack plate 😊

LuckySantangelo35 · 06/05/2023 13:57

lljkk · 06/05/2023 13:16

it is really expensive to buy that much

OP implies she buys the same amount whether or not the 7yo ate it all. OP implies she doesn't buy any more. No difference in the expense whether or not the 7yo ate it all. OP was concerned that she & H. didn't get enough of the fruit because child ate the allocated weekly expenditure.

So then OP's 1st idea for solution was to make sure that nobody had any fruit... which is pretty illogical, if problem is not enough fruit for everyone.

sounds like OP has a solution she likes, anyway, which is a good thing.

@lljkk

well she would have to buy more if she or her husband wanted to eat any fruit wouldn’t she? At the minute she’s not getting any!

lookluv · 06/05/2023 13:54

The adults in this young childs life need to teach her during a stressful time in her life and that includes OP as the child lives with her and her father full time.
You can not have a child live in their home FT and do nacho parenting.

The choclates and junk food were stopped, she moved in with DF and left Mum and has a new sibling.

OP and her DF stopped junk food and needed to educate about fruit - somethign as simple as a plate has worked. rather than use words like gorging, greedy etc - teach her liek you would any child. Any child will eat what they liek with out thoguht for others or health if not taught about it.

OP - you are the main breadwinner - yours and your partners choice, you both agreed to have a new family, you both agree he works part time - you and your DP need to work out parenting of all the children in the house and remember she is 7 yrs old, had huge disruption and with a little guidance might actually be fine - give her the knowledge and tools to learn rather than calling her a gorging greedy, inconsiderate little girl.
Your situation is of yours and your partners making - this child gets taken long for the ride with no choice. Step kids just can not do right -be thankful the fruit is healthy at least and teach her and use less inflammatory words to describe her.

lljkk · 06/05/2023 13:16

it is really expensive to buy that much

OP implies she buys the same amount whether or not the 7yo ate it all. OP implies she doesn't buy any more. No difference in the expense whether or not the 7yo ate it all. OP was concerned that she & H. didn't get enough of the fruit because child ate the allocated weekly expenditure.

So then OP's 1st idea for solution was to make sure that nobody had any fruit... which is pretty illogical, if problem is not enough fruit for everyone.

sounds like OP has a solution she likes, anyway, which is a good thing.

Strawberrydelight78 · 06/05/2023 13:09

Definitely I've been there myself with a young baby. They really do push the boundaries.

GiraffeLaSophie · 06/05/2023 13:04

LimePi · 06/05/2023 11:19

A bit of loose stool here and there is not a big deal. I can get loose stool if I eat lots of apricots or pears but it is not damaging to health for christ’s sake, it’s just par for the course because some fruit have this effect:

If you are literally ‘unwell’ from fruit it is maybe because you don’t eat it enough and your body is not used to fruit and veg but is instead used to heave carbs/protein.

You’ve just said that you get an upset stomach if you eat too much of particular fruits, yet if other people become unwell it’s because they must have unhealthy diets?

She’s not just having a bit of an upset stomach, it’s bad enough that she’s had accidents. Removing the cost factor, and the step child/parent factor (which some people are just incapable of doing) that alone is an indication that she is eating too much of something. If something is making you soil yourself it’s not doing you good!

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 06/05/2023 12:07

LimePi · 06/05/2023 11:52

Yes it is unkind because she and other commenters are unkind to her step daughter and she said that it is “greedy”, that’s abhorrent. Having a baby is not an excuse to be mean to her step daughter, and resent her for the cost of food she’s eating . On the contrary BECAUSE she’s got a baby of her own she must really watch herself not to treat her step daughter more meanly. I seriously doubt she’ll resent her own child for eating that much fruit (even though she might still budget etc)

If you READ the actual OP, @LimePi you'll see that @Katey83 's actual question is about how to broach this issue with her husband. THe OP is incredibly patient & caring it seems to me - she's taken on a 7 year old (how much discussion or right to say "No" was there, I wonder?) and basically supports the family including therapy for her DSD.

What she actually asks is this:

"I want to handle this in a compassionate way, would I be unreasonable to stop buying fruit until dh agrees to a sensible ration for dsd?"

The OP's question is about her DH, not her DSD.

LuckySantangelo35 · 06/05/2023 12:02

LimePi · 06/05/2023 11:59

in the real world people actually focus on making their life better, yeah, and that may include making more money . I come from a poor family so i know the real world. I also know people who focus just on rationing and making do forgetting that there is another way

@LimePi

not everyone wants to spend such a lot of their income on an excess of fruit though!

and it’s not rationing, it’s putting in place sensible limits to stop a child eating so much fruit that they’re giving themselves an upset stomach!

LlamaFace19 · 06/05/2023 11:59

I haven't read the entire thread so apologies if this has been covered already, but is there any particular reason she doesn't live with her mum anymore? Was poverty/food insecurity a factor? Children who grow up with food insecurity will often binge when food becomes readily available. If this is the case she'll need therapy to address this.

In any case it IS a lot of fruit so you're not BU to be aggrieved by it.

LimePi · 06/05/2023 11:59

LuckySantangelo35 · 06/05/2023 11:30

@LimePi

lol yeah op go out and get a better paying job so that you can keep buying all this fruit! In the real world, people limit themselves, make their food shop last, etc.

in the real world people actually focus on making their life better, yeah, and that may include making more money . I come from a poor family so i know the real world. I also know people who focus just on rationing and making do forgetting that there is another way

aSofaNearYou · 06/05/2023 11:59

LimePi · 06/05/2023 11:52

Yes it is unkind because she and other commenters are unkind to her step daughter and she said that it is “greedy”, that’s abhorrent. Having a baby is not an excuse to be mean to her step daughter, and resent her for the cost of food she’s eating . On the contrary BECAUSE she’s got a baby of her own she must really watch herself not to treat her step daughter more meanly. I seriously doubt she’ll resent her own child for eating that much fruit (even though she might still budget etc)

People feel differently about the word greedy. I'm seeing the same thing on another thread about "spoilt". Neither word is abhorrent or off limits to me about children, step or otherwise. You are jumping to the conclusion this is about resenting her for being a step child because YOU think that word is awful, but just as many people don't.

And I would not allow my DD to eat that much fruit. She loves eating fruit, but once she's had two different types in short succession or eaten her way through a whole punnet, I'm telling her that's enough for the day and she'll have to wait for dinner or have something else. I clearly resent my own DD, rather than just have normal parenting boundaries!

LimePi · 06/05/2023 11:52

Yes it is unkind because she and other commenters are unkind to her step daughter and she said that it is “greedy”, that’s abhorrent. Having a baby is not an excuse to be mean to her step daughter, and resent her for the cost of food she’s eating . On the contrary BECAUSE she’s got a baby of her own she must really watch herself not to treat her step daughter more meanly. I seriously doubt she’ll resent her own child for eating that much fruit (even though she might still budget etc)