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Stepdaughter eating too much fruit

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Katey83 · 04/05/2023 22:47

My dsd, 7, moved in with us full
time back in January. Our situation is that I am higher earner and breadwinner on Mat leave with 5 month old baby, husband does some part time work that doesn’t bring in much (he runs our family vehicle and contributes towards household costs such as shopping etc). Dsd’s mother does not contribute towards her expenses while she is living here (indefinitely for now).

At the moment, we are on a tight budget due to my mat leave - and one thing driving me crazy is dsd eating all our fruit. We will buy a weekly shop with 2 bunches bananas, few punnets of berries, peaches, melon, grapes, tangerines etc and she will eat her way through the lot in two days. For example, yesterday she ate a punnet and a half of raspberries, three peaches, four tangerines, some grapes, a slice of melon and two bananas. This is on a school day (so she eats this at breakfast and in the evening). She is then obviously reluctant to finish a proper evening meal or try anything she dislikes. She also has had a couple of accidents with loose stools (imo this is from bingeing on fruit). She takes from the fridge without asking and leaves nothing for DH and I.

I’ve spoken to my dh about this and he says she is a growing child and at least fruit is good for her - fair enough I buy fruit partly for her to eat, but the amount seems greedy to me, and beyond what is necessary for a healthy child. I think reasonable is a small
bowl of berries and grapes along with a tangerine and banana after school as a snack and then one piece for dessert. She can also have melon and banana for breakfast along with cereal and a yoghurt. I want her to learn that food costs money, we don’t have a bottomless pit of it and you don’t just gorge on whatever you want because you are bored/tired/didn’t eat your dinner, you ration portions in a family so everyone gets a fair share, and sometimes eat less tasty things to maintain a healthy diet.

We provide substantial breakfast, lunch and dinner portions, and I try to accommodate her tastes (though she can’t just have fish fingers and strawberries as a diet, which would be her preference).When she first came to us she was also gorging like this on sweets - that’s been easier to nip in bud as dh can see how unhealthy it is. I want to handle this in a compassionate way, would I be unreasonable to stop buying fruit until dh agrees to a sensible ration for dsd?

OP posts:
BurntOutGirl · 05/05/2023 07:09

Lock on the fridge? Put the food out of her reach?

5128gap · 05/05/2023 07:08

Your H should not be allowing his DD to eat in a way that is bad for her health.
Google some information about excessive fruit consumption, show him, and tell him he you think he needs to parent his child properly with regards to her diet.
Tell him you respect his right to the final say regarding his DD. But, you are being asked to contribute to her parenting as she lives in your home, and you don't feel comfortable facilitating and colluding with something harmful to her.
So if he insists on allowing it, its down to him to provide the extra fruit, as you will be removing her free access to the household supply, and offering only appropriate amounts.

DisquietintheRanks · 05/05/2023 07:01

There's a difference bw "worrying every time she takes a piece if fruit" and scoffing your way through pounds of the stuff in a couple of days @SoTiredNeedHoliday . I never let mine have unlimited access to the fruit bowl, and things like raspberries and blueberries are strictly divided do everyone gets some. Despite what some people think unlimited fruit isn't esp healthy and at 7 it's fine for parents to regulate snacking.

LakieLady · 05/05/2023 06:57

I definitely think this is some sort of comfort eating thing, and feel for the little girl. She's been through some very big changes, and even in a regular family the arrival of a new sibling can be difficult for the older one.

I'd try only keeping the more expensive berries etc for weekend treats and buy more of the apples, bananas etc for the other days. And explain that too much fruit will damage her teeth, and that you don't want her to have to have fillings etc.

PearlOnion · 05/05/2023 06:57

Dd had to see a paediatrician for various allergies and we ran through her diet and we were asked to cut down on fruit. Fruit every day is fine in moderation. But as you mentioned in your OP, too much of it can cause a runny tummy in children.

Better for her to have more filling snacks - maybe some peanut butter or cheese type snacks alongside the fruit to help her digest it better. I would just limit what you offer her and provide other snacks in the interim. Good luck!

SoTiredNeedHoliday · 05/05/2023 06:56

Yes you are being unreasonable. She needs to feel like its her home, she shouldn't need to worry every time she takes a piece of fruit.

Plus she's had a trauma of moving in with you full time and is a child. You can't ration her unless she is causing herself harm - otherwise you might make this trauma worse and trigger other issues.

Sounds like the issue is not with the child its that your not happy with DH and your living situation.

Tarantullah · 05/05/2023 06:53

I think people are being harsh, as well as being a seismic change for her it is for you too having her live with you full time, whilst always a possibility a step child will move in, sounds like it is a change from how things were when you met. In your post you even say you want to approach it compassionately and that you try and accommodate her tastes; most people would find these greed and thoughtlessness towards others by eating all of the fruit irritating if it was their own child. You're also paying for play therapy as you recognise she's been through a lot, it's not like you're just moaning about it without actually having tried to support her also.

Your DH should be helping figure something out, it'd be a shame to not buy as much if others also enjoy eating it, but that much fruit is going to wreck her teeth and stomach plus as you say its expensive.

Mycatisalwaysangry · 05/05/2023 06:52

She’s just swapped the sweets that she’s not allowed anymore with the sweet fruit.

Barnbrack · 05/05/2023 06:51

usererror99 · 05/05/2023 06:25

Your partner has a child now living with you full time therefore he needs to work full time to support them both and he also needs to apply for CMS for the mother

(I was the main earner in a marriage and in the end I have to say it breeds contempt and resentment on the earners side and laziness and lack of appreciation of the cost of things on the part of the other who doesn't work much and doesn't feel the need to earn more either)

If you don't have the fruit in the house she can't eat it - so don't buy it all at once - she's old enough that you can talk with her that she's not to fill up on it all the time and about the cost of things - albeit doesn't sound like her dad does since he's letting you pick up the financial burden here

Would you insist a mum who worked part time to care for a baby also worked full time if she had an old rnchild?

Bloopsie · 05/05/2023 06:51

Quoronation · 05/05/2023 06:47

What is your advice re the fruit

Would not even think to limit it, i cringe when my kids asks for oily crisps or toast over berries,veg and fruit and encourage to eat fruit with fibre and vitamins.

Quoronation · 05/05/2023 06:47

Bloopsie · 05/05/2023 06:46

I agree with sounds like you are resenting her, dont take the mess the adults have chosen to do out on a 7 year old and tbf you chose to get involved with a guy with a child,who also sounds irresponsible and so does his ex who dosent provide for her daughter living elsewhere.

What is your advice re the fruit

Quoronation · 05/05/2023 06:46

Katey83 · 04/05/2023 23:19

I’m quite surprised by the amount of judgement on here over one partner in a couple working PT. Yes it’s tight while I am on Mat leave, and perhaps I’m not budgeting all that well having recently acquired 2 kids. However, would there be this judgement if it was the woman working PT because the plan was to save on childcare costs when higher earner returns to work?

No there would not. People just hate part time working men and stepmums

Bloopsie · 05/05/2023 06:46

I agree with sounds like you are resenting her, dont take the mess the adults have chosen to do out on a 7 year old and tbf you chose to get involved with a guy with a child,who also sounds irresponsible and so does his ex who dosent provide for her daughter living elsewhere.

Quoronation · 05/05/2023 06:45

Katey83 · 04/05/2023 23:33

I’m not sure how my post suggested she was being denied fruit. I think it’s pretty clear she has access to a lot of fruit.

I mean yeah tbh..she has too much access so why are people having a go!

Anyway she sounds unhealthy so I think dad should take her to the doctor

DisquietintheRanks · 05/05/2023 06:45

Cantthinkofaname2203 · 05/05/2023 06:41

Does this work the other way?

interesting that many women are pt or don’t even work at all, yet men are supposed to pick up the financial burden. Even when they live in a home with stepchildren.

why is it such a problem for a man to work part time and take care of his kids?

do the millions of men supporting families also feel resentment that their wives aren’t working, and sahm are lazy and don’t appreciate the cost of things?

I can’t see the problem with him working pt 🤷‍♀️

Yes well that's not the right sort of sexual equality for mumsnet. See also: children of divorced couples living with their fathers.

Sorry OP. YANBU about the fruit BTW but it's fairly normal small child behaviour. You'll resent it less when it's your child doing it.

Bloopsie · 05/05/2023 06:44

What am I reading.. is she overweight? What else should she snack on- Dorritos? Crisps? sandwiches?

If her body is craving for fruit there is a reason for it and privided she gets get teeth brushed afterwards why not.

Your partner perhaps needs to sort out finances with his ex and find better paying employment, you are right she is not your child to provide for and sounds like your partner is not “contributing” enough and girls mum is not contributing at all. If both her parents pulled their weight she could eat fruit all day.

Cantthinkofaname2203 · 05/05/2023 06:41

usererror99 · 05/05/2023 06:25

Your partner has a child now living with you full time therefore he needs to work full time to support them both and he also needs to apply for CMS for the mother

(I was the main earner in a marriage and in the end I have to say it breeds contempt and resentment on the earners side and laziness and lack of appreciation of the cost of things on the part of the other who doesn't work much and doesn't feel the need to earn more either)

If you don't have the fruit in the house she can't eat it - so don't buy it all at once - she's old enough that you can talk with her that she's not to fill up on it all the time and about the cost of things - albeit doesn't sound like her dad does since he's letting you pick up the financial burden here

Does this work the other way?

interesting that many women are pt or don’t even work at all, yet men are supposed to pick up the financial burden. Even when they live in a home with stepchildren.

why is it such a problem for a man to work part time and take care of his kids?

do the millions of men supporting families also feel resentment that their wives aren’t working, and sahm are lazy and don’t appreciate the cost of things?

I can’t see the problem with him working pt 🤷‍♀️

Quoronation · 05/05/2023 06:37

She needs to learn the fruit is for everyone not just her

babyproblems · 05/05/2023 06:36

I feel your tone is a bit mean I’ll be honest… I get the impression you’re not that keen on her and she irritates you. I think it’s really important you do your upmost to have a loving relationship with her… I don’t think the details about who brings in more money are relevant. You’re married and she is a child of the family. I feel there’s some resentment on your part- I also think you sound frustrated with your DH. You’re right it’s too much fruit and it’s a lot of sugar!!! You need to make it less accessible or change tactics. Could you buy frozen fruit and make her a smoothie a day she can have in a couple of portions? Is she drinking enough water? Is she genuinely hungry. Things to think about. Good luck xx

GnomeDePlume · 05/05/2023 06:33

Lots of good tips above about portioning and involving DSD in the process of getting these portions ready every day.

Obviously DSD has gone through a lot of changes in a short time. You havent said anything about what her previous life was like. Right now access to food may be very important to her maybe because it is something she can control or there were shortages in what was available. She needs to learn to learn to trust that she will still get her fair share without having it all now.

This is also an opportunity for DH and you to start teaching DSD about seasonality and how different fruit and vegetables grow. It doesnt need to be expensive or intensive.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 05/05/2023 06:33

@Katey83 your resentment is natural, that is an obscene bingeing on fruit, and you are covering that excessive cost alone.

I think it’s time for your partner to resume full time work again and share the burden of both of the children with you. Especially as one is his alone. He probably won’t want to hit he’s had a long time of working part time now and there are two kids to think about, one of which is solely his and you are shouldering the additional financial burden (therapy) as you try to support her.

THisbackwithavengeance · 05/05/2023 06:33

snitzelvoncrumb · 05/05/2023 06:05

I would make sure dh knows there are going to be huge dental bills if she continues to eat like that. If your dh won’t support you then I would just stop buying so much. If she eats it all she goes hungry for the rest of the week. Also just buy the cheapest stuff you can get.

Good God, hear yourself! You're talking about a 7 year old girl.

Suggestions like letting her go hungry? I don't understand why she would go hungry even if all the fruit is gone. Does she not get meals?

Why don't you read court transcripts of cases where a bio parent and a stepparent have killed a child. That often starts off with them denying a child food and letting them go hungry.

Have some compassion for a small child.

Hotfootgoose · 05/05/2023 06:29

That’s way too much fruit and it’s giving her diarrhoea, so it’s clearly not good for her. Start rationing, and get other things like carrot and cucumber and celery as a swap. This is not ok…a punnet and half ?! She will end up with stomach problems .

usererror99 · 05/05/2023 06:25

Your partner has a child now living with you full time therefore he needs to work full time to support them both and he also needs to apply for CMS for the mother

(I was the main earner in a marriage and in the end I have to say it breeds contempt and resentment on the earners side and laziness and lack of appreciation of the cost of things on the part of the other who doesn't work much and doesn't feel the need to earn more either)

If you don't have the fruit in the house she can't eat it - so don't buy it all at once - she's old enough that you can talk with her that she's not to fill up on it all the time and about the cost of things - albeit doesn't sound like her dad does since he's letting you pick up the financial burden here

Quinoawoman · 05/05/2023 06:24

This clearly isn't about the fruit. You sound resentful in general.

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