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Stepdaughter eating too much fruit

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Katey83 · 04/05/2023 22:47

My dsd, 7, moved in with us full
time back in January. Our situation is that I am higher earner and breadwinner on Mat leave with 5 month old baby, husband does some part time work that doesn’t bring in much (he runs our family vehicle and contributes towards household costs such as shopping etc). Dsd’s mother does not contribute towards her expenses while she is living here (indefinitely for now).

At the moment, we are on a tight budget due to my mat leave - and one thing driving me crazy is dsd eating all our fruit. We will buy a weekly shop with 2 bunches bananas, few punnets of berries, peaches, melon, grapes, tangerines etc and she will eat her way through the lot in two days. For example, yesterday she ate a punnet and a half of raspberries, three peaches, four tangerines, some grapes, a slice of melon and two bananas. This is on a school day (so she eats this at breakfast and in the evening). She is then obviously reluctant to finish a proper evening meal or try anything she dislikes. She also has had a couple of accidents with loose stools (imo this is from bingeing on fruit). She takes from the fridge without asking and leaves nothing for DH and I.

I’ve spoken to my dh about this and he says she is a growing child and at least fruit is good for her - fair enough I buy fruit partly for her to eat, but the amount seems greedy to me, and beyond what is necessary for a healthy child. I think reasonable is a small
bowl of berries and grapes along with a tangerine and banana after school as a snack and then one piece for dessert. She can also have melon and banana for breakfast along with cereal and a yoghurt. I want her to learn that food costs money, we don’t have a bottomless pit of it and you don’t just gorge on whatever you want because you are bored/tired/didn’t eat your dinner, you ration portions in a family so everyone gets a fair share, and sometimes eat less tasty things to maintain a healthy diet.

We provide substantial breakfast, lunch and dinner portions, and I try to accommodate her tastes (though she can’t just have fish fingers and strawberries as a diet, which would be her preference).When she first came to us she was also gorging like this on sweets - that’s been easier to nip in bud as dh can see how unhealthy it is. I want to handle this in a compassionate way, would I be unreasonable to stop buying fruit until dh agrees to a sensible ration for dsd?

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Chatillon · 05/05/2023 21:21

I have not followed this thread, but posted earlier.

This is my experience. Anyone in this situation I say do not take away any of DSD's control. Work with her and be with her together. Let her retain some control and allow her choices. If you wish to take substantive control, you will unleash a monster. Avoid anorexia at all costs. The years 7-14 are the danger zone. Yes, as young as seven. Food is the last control of any human, don't go that far.

aSofaNearYou · 05/05/2023 21:19

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Mix56 · 05/05/2023 21:19

She could be diabetic ?

Dixiechickonhols · 05/05/2023 21:03

Is she eating through boredom? Can you sign her up for Brownies it’s low cost and would keep her active.
It’s not good for your tummy to eat that much fruit. I’d stop buying so much on one go.

Dingdong90 · 05/05/2023 21:02

My dd 7 eats this amount of fruit daily too, and I honestly keep buying more because its better than them eating junk food constantly and if she can't finish her dinner because she's ate fruit, I really don't mind. Maybe set out an amount that she can have a day in her own bowl and encourage her to make it last her the day? But I definetly wouldn't mind this, you dh is right, at least its healthy choices and not sweets and crisps

ConsuelaHammock · 05/05/2023 21:02

Buy apples , bananas and pears. I wouldn’t be happy with this either. She is being greedy.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/05/2023 21:01

Far too much fruit - not the wonder she is having toilet accidents!As well as the expense.

As others have suggested:
a) try carrot sticks - there is a small amount of sugar in them, but they are healthier and are cheap (not too much of these either though)

b) cheaper fruit eg apples - take longer to eat and are less tempting. Soft fruit is particularly delicious as well as costly, and doesn't "fill you up" the way fruit such as apples does. The variety of fruit is also too tempting for her - keep it healthy but boring. We all of us eat less if our diet is unvaried.

I don't know whether she is comfort eating or just greedy, but it isn't good for her to be consuming this quantity of anything. Discouraging her by limiting variety would be better than rationing though, I think.

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jasminesunflower · 05/05/2023 20:53

She's only a small child so it's not her fault. As her parents/step parents you need to make sure she eats a healthily and has a balanced diet.

If she is binge eating fruit to the point where she has accidents you need to make sure she doesn't have so much access to it, same as you would if she was binging sweets or crisps. It's not healthy to eat that much fruit.

Combine fruit with other thing, e.g. on top of porridge.

Also you really need to get her checked out and see a doctor. This is not normal and could be pointing towards some health issues.

Sunshine275 · 05/05/2023 20:48

You’re saying she will get through the lot. Then clearly that’s because you’re letting her? My almost 7 year old wouldn’t just help herself, so why aren’t you giving her more structure to her eating.
Your post sounds like you resent her being there to be honest, she’s probably picking up on that and the only comfort she’s getting in from food.

halowh · 05/05/2023 20:42

Strange thing to be annoyed over, I can understand fruit is expensive but don’t contribute to her having an unhealthy relationship with foods! Could you buy less fruit and buy carrots/cucumber etc instead and chop into sticks to leave in the fridge for snacks? Much cheaper than fruit but still healthy snacks

Toomanylatenightprogs · 05/05/2023 20:38

I’m vegetarian and only eat fresh food but I couldn’t eat that much fruit in two days. Buy less choice ( apples and pears only for example) buy frozen fruit for smoothies. Give her a lunch box and she can choose 2 or 3 portions of fruit for the day.

Sarahjaykay · 05/05/2023 20:37

Both my ds do this and it drives me mad...but I tell them to snack on fruit so 🤷🏼.

GabriellaMontez · 05/05/2023 20:34

aSofaNearYou · 05/05/2023 12:09

I think this thread has become overly obsessed with this inevitably being a trauma response tbh. Loads of children do just like to eat a lot of food without there being underlying issues at the heart of it.

Totally agree. And they have to be taught sharing and healthy eating habits.

Not allowed to gorge on fruit until they're ill. It's neglectful.

BoldandBright · 05/05/2023 20:32

Put her daily fruit ‘allowance’ in a basket. This may be like you say 1 banana, a handful of grapes, 2x tangerines etc. Let her know she can eat this fruit whenever she likes but when the basket is empty thats it until the next day.

anunlikelyseahorse · 05/05/2023 19:54

To be clear they would have a berry/ grape/ melon ball etc in each ice cube!

anunlikelyseahorse · 05/05/2023 19:52

Op both my dc would munch through copious amounts of fruit, leaving none for me or dh, and I get your frustration at going to the fridge/ fruit bowl to find none left for you both.
I found an excellent solution was putting a berry in an ice cube tray, filling with water and freezing over night, they each had a 12 cube ration tray, which they could help themselves to. They are teen and nearly teen now and make the trays up themselves👍.

Sleeplessnights2 · 05/05/2023 19:52

Barnbrack · 05/05/2023 19:38

But they haven't done this, op and her husband have instead argued about it, he's allowed her to gorge and she's branded her greedy and herself resentful. Over fruit.

Ij our house we'd say 'of course you can have strawberries' then we'd make a plate with strawberries, some yoghurt, a handful of Cheerios etc. Someone would portion and make the snack and hang out with our kids while they eat

He MIGHT go to the fridge for fruit himself but mostoy we discuss food and he knows he gets breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, supper so he'll request certain things but we ultimately give him food. He doesn't have to go foraging etc.

Butop and her husband aren't doing that. Why not? Why is she resenting a child for eating food and he's not bothering to parent?

I totally agree that a 7yo shouldn’t be getting her own unlimited snacks all day long, especially not too close to meal times, and that your approach of snacking being nutritionally balanced and more substantial is sensible (thus minimising her feeling the need to eat enough fruit - which alone isn’t filling of course - for several adults a day). I suppose that’s exactly why she wrote this post as this thread has suggested lots of possible solutions.

Barnbrack · 05/05/2023 19:38

Sleeplessnights2 · 05/05/2023 19:34

I do agree that this example is a tad dramatic but I agree with the underlying sentiment that the fruit needs to be shared (albeit unequally, especially as the little girl loves her fruit) between 4 members of the family. So I agree with all the PPs who have said that she needs to learn that it’s to be shared by saying something like “we don’t want anyone to feel like a piece of fruit and it’s all gone.” I don’t think 7 is too young to start learning this in an age-appropriate way. Otherwise, she won’t just suddenly be a teenager who can share.

But they haven't done this, op and her husband have instead argued about it, he's allowed her to gorge and she's branded her greedy and herself resentful. Over fruit.

Ij our house we'd say 'of course you can have strawberries' then we'd make a plate with strawberries, some yoghurt, a handful of Cheerios etc. Someone would portion and make the snack and hang out with our kids while they eat

He MIGHT go to the fridge for fruit himself but mostoy we discuss food and he knows he gets breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, supper so he'll request certain things but we ultimately give him food. He doesn't have to go foraging etc.

Butop and her husband aren't doing that. Why not? Why is she resenting a child for eating food and he's not bothering to parent?

Sleeplessnights2 · 05/05/2023 19:34

Barnbrack · 05/05/2023 19:28

Ach sh. As someone who weaned my 1 yr old months ago and has a 5 yr old, if the strawberries were gone I'd mash a banana. It'd have been on me to have ensured I had what I needed available. Ridiculous

I do agree that this example is a tad dramatic but I agree with the underlying sentiment that the fruit needs to be shared (albeit unequally, especially as the little girl loves her fruit) between 4 members of the family. So I agree with all the PPs who have said that she needs to learn that it’s to be shared by saying something like “we don’t want anyone to feel like a piece of fruit and it’s all gone.” I don’t think 7 is too young to start learning this in an age-appropriate way. Otherwise, she won’t just suddenly be a teenager who can share.

Barnbrack · 05/05/2023 19:28

Strawberrydelight78 · 05/05/2023 17:40

You've also got to consider your young baby will be weaning soon. It's not really fair if they can't have they're first taste of fruit's because they're older sibling has eaten it all. Frozen berries are just as good as fresh though. Might be something to consider.

Ach sh. As someone who weaned my 1 yr old months ago and has a 5 yr old, if the strawberries were gone I'd mash a banana. It'd have been on me to have ensured I had what I needed available. Ridiculous

billy1966 · 05/05/2023 19:24

That's a lot of fruit and unsurprisingly it is killing her appetite and leading to loose stools.

You are carrying a ver heavy load.

It certainly doesn't sound as if you have landed a prize though.

Yours is a story told on here regularly.

Single solvent working woman lands herself with a single father that needs housing with children in tow....your prize is working part time.

You have married him as well and now are paying for his child too.

OP mind yourself, because men like him are ten a penny.

SeulementUneFois · 05/05/2023 19:23

OP

Your husband needs to open a CMS claim on the child's mother.

weirdoboelady · 05/05/2023 19:00

Nobody seems to have taken in my point that uncontrolled raiding of food by ANYBODY in the household is unacceptable. The OP needs to set boundaries about what is up for general consumption and what isn't. Nominated shelf in the fridge or nominated fruit containers/bowls are a good start to this.

I am beginning to understand where all those threads about housemates in shared flats stealing all the food come from!

Theskyoutsideisblue · 05/05/2023 18:38

@Katey83 . I think you are doing a great job and coping well with all the changes that have come your way. Some posters! She has not told the child she is greedy, though the behaviour is greedy. Imagine if this behaviour is not stopped. You think future school friends and work colleagues won’t call it greedy.