to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

Don't be so ridiculous and judgemental.

I don't get this obsession with dogs... we always had a dog growing up but never a big deal made of it. Now I have colleagues wanting to put their dogs on teams calls and show me pictures of them some even have their own social media pages. The people that are batty over their dogs seem to mainly be either people who are child free by choice or people whose kids have flown the nest. I'm glad the dogs bring happiness but I can't get too excited about them really. Businesses allow them in because it makes good business sense I suppose with so many households owning a dog now

When you're sitting in a pub eating your lunch, and a dog at the next table has a crap on the floor, you know it's gone too far.

I would much rather encounter dogs whilst out and about than miserable sour faced humans anyday.

Runaway0

“It's selfish dragging your dog along wherever you want to “

agrree, most at far happier at home in peace.

All this frothing makes me even happier to take my (incredibly well behaved) dogs to all the usual places. Happy in the knowledge that it's pissing some loon dog hater off . I didn't ever think like this but all these anti dog people are making me think that way.

I mean voluntary euthanasia. Where people can choose for themselves whether they do not have quality of life and no longer wish to be alive. I am a huge advocate for that policy (and would take advantage of it, myself).

In hindsight I should not have said I hope that care homes no longer exist. That is my own prejudice as I’ve seen dreadful things happen in them, but clearly there will continue to be a need for them and in that case I hope that they are improved so that they enrich the lives of those who reside there (rather than the opposite, which is my experience).

Mumsnet really hates dogs🙄
don't go.to.places that allow dogs if it's a problem for you.

IMO it's a pretty even split @x2boys
Dog lovers think that mumsnet hates dogs. I don't mind them.

I don't have a problem with anyone bringing a well trained dog to anywhere I have chosen to go. I can anticipate that if a place gets too full of lots of badly behaved dogs then pandemonium will follow.

Cake is far more of a danger in a cafe. Mine once got hold of two large slices of homemade carrot cake (with sultanas) and gobbled the lot. That was an expensive vet bill.

Isn't that a risk that all dog owners have to anticipate when taking their dogs into a cafe?

I think that as fewer and fewer places ban dogs it does become more difficult for people who are allergic to dogs or who are dog phobic. Yoy then reach a point where dog allergic and dog phobic people are afraid to leave the house. There needs to be some balance.

I saw a large dog pee on some maxi dresses in M&S not long ago. The owner didn't notice, but I pointed it out to the staff. Disgusting.

I saw this sign on a rug stall in Ely last year @NeverTrustAPoliceman

@fitzwilliamdarcy I did not see that. Plenty of younger people with disabilities are in care homes. Do you mean only people 90 plus? 80 plus? Any adult in a care home?

@AskMeMore It’s actually really wound me up how you’ve twisted my words - there is quite clearly a difference between care homes (where many people have no quality of life) and caters for people with disabilities, where assistance is needed to help someone achieve quality of life and dignity. You know this but for whatever reason have tried to insinuate that I’m promoting eugenics, for reasons best known to you.

@WalkingAwayNow I don’t like dogs, so I don’t have an addled brain, but go off I guess.

@AskMeMore Yes because that’s exactly what I said. 🙄

@fitzwilliamdarcy So anyone disabled who needs their arse wiped should be killed?

Do you not think there are more incompetent dog-owners now than before?

Why do you think dog-owners/lovers are also complaining here about the increasing problems caused by dogs? What’s their agenda?

‘I suspect the reason why many hate dogs is because they know that a far bigger segment of the general public will stop and fuss over a dog but not their child. It’s jealousy, basically’

Lol. What a desperate reach. Thanks for the laugh though.

Your doggy-addled brain cannot accept the more ordinary reasons for not liking dogs so you invented this one. Ha, nice try though; at least it’s inventive. 👏

Although I do think it would be unreasonable to take one to a toddler group.

Here dogs are allowed in certain restaurants, but it would be uncommon to see more than one at any particular time. So I thinks it's a fuss over nothing. I don't have a dog either.

No idea! It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

I hate it, of course service dogs are different and I think some pubs allowing dogs is great so people have a choice, but when it seems to be everywhere now there's no escape from them. Not everyone likes dogs yet wherever you go you're likely to have one snaffling round your feet, shedding and stinking the place.

@AlwaysGinPlease yet it is mostly dogs who are banned and not children....

Is it different in city centre type places? Urban dogs Vs rural dogs?

I think it might be - the dogs I’ve seen in pubs at the end / in the middle of a long country walk do not seem to be the same as some of the yappy accessories in some town cafes…

Agreed. Had dogs my whole life, frequented many a Dog friendly establishment many times over the years and I have NEVER seen any such nonsense happening as reported by the Anti Dog Brigade! Ever!

I have however seen countless badly behaved children...

I will admit that I just shake my head when I read some of the stories on these threads about dogs pissing on clothes, climbing on tables in cafes, getting into fights in pubs etc.

I just don't believe these stories are true! At least not most of them.
I grew up with dogs, our local shops, pubs, cafes etc are all dog friendly, my friends and family still have dogs so I'm regularly in these places with dogs and have never seen half of what people are talking about. My parents own a dog who is absolutely not friendly either. We took him to a pub once, realised it was more stress for us to keep him calm so just didn't take him back. Which is what the majority of experienced dog owners would do.

Is it different in city centre type places? Urban dogs Vs rural dogs?

@Elphame

Wow. Your poor dogs. Grapes , raisins currants and sultanas are toxic for ALL dogs. Regardless of breed etc. you should know this as an owner.

I think you might just have an overactive imagination.

I've experienced this often, not with dogs but young children.