to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

@LadyGrinningSoul85 yes of course they aren't comparable to kids. I read somewhere that you are entitled to a kid free life but you're aren't entitled to a kid free world!

On both sides IMO.
There is a middle ground.

I don't mind dogs in general but in food places I think it's unhygienic. Last time I was in a cafe where dogs were there, the waitress was carrying our lunch and she walked past a table with a dog which then decided to shake its fur whilst my food and drinks on the tray was exposed to that.

Typical MN hysteria 🙄.

Dogs, cars, trans people and retail staff are the four things MN is truly batshit and toxic about.

People just need to be more considerate.
Why do some dog owners just not get that not everyone loves dogs?
I don't mind them BTW.

Dogs, cars, trans people and retail staff are the four things MN is truly batshit and toxic about.

I'm all for dogs in more places. I'm a dog lover but I don't think I want to own one yet, so I'm absolutely delighted each and every time I meet one out and about.

I was at primary school in the 1960s where the head teacher brought his Great Dane in EVERY DAY. Its name was Bruce and he was adorable. No child left that school afraid of dogs.

I think the reason that the dog lovers are complaining about the "I hate dogs" threads is because quite often it is the self entitled dog owners who post on them and give all dog owners a bad name.

I know a lot of dog owners, and none of them are self entitled about wanting to take their dog everywhere with them.

We always had a dog when I was growing up. If we holidayed in this country they always came with us, which is why we aalwys camped. If we went abroad they went into kennels. The dog stayed at home if we went shopping or out for a meal, and if we went out for the day we would take a picnic so that the dog could come with us. Or if we couldn't bring the dog a neighbour would let it out to go to the toilet.

Support dogs aside there is no need to have a dog constantly by your side 24/7.

Jesus Christ 🙄

These comparisons to kids make me want to rebound my head off of a wall.

There's always one that has to compare dogs to kids.

Louder for those at the back.
Dogs 👏 Are 👏 Not 👏 Comparable 👏 To 👏 Kids!

And no, dogs aren't 'better' either 🙄

I cannot stand dogs.
I don't know your dog, I don't care if it's 'friendly'.
It smells, I don't want it jumping up at me, I don't want it sniffing at me, keep your disgusting PET (note, not a child!) away from me.

I’m not a dog hater at all but dogs should not be allowed in any establishment that sells food. Whether that be restaurants, cafes or shops. It’s just not hygienic.

It is a very anglicised trait. I think that society is just more insular now and people are more socially-inept, so they pretend that their dogs are something that they're not.

Kind of like having an imaginary friend for lonely children, but instead adults pretend that their dogs have human qualities.

There is a farm near me that is open to the public. They have two cafes - one for dog owners with their dogs and one that doesn't allow dogs. Obviously they have the space to do this, but this way everyone is happy.

Beyond rare examples. If you have any venue that permits dogs to behave like that then avoid it. Dogs are usually not allowed off lead, and while you might get the odd yap/bark it’s no worse than crying babies or over-loud adults.

Places that allow dogs never end up being overrun with the animals. Rarely will they be yapping and pretty much never running around. The same can’t be said about toddlers! It’s great to have more places to take dogs out with you. There are still more places that don’t than do, so if you don’t like it there’s still plenty of options for you.

@AlwaysGinPlease that's because I am

Utterly fed up of dogs being everywhere too.

At my youngest DC school the head brings in his dog EVERY DAY!

We don’t have life insurance because we don’t have a mortgage or children under 18 so what would be the point? We do, however, have pet insurance because vets bills can easily run into thousands and it includes £1 million cover for any damage she might do to other people or their belongings. Sensible no? So I’m not sure why you’re laughing.

Comparing dogs to children is ridiculous-children are people and dogs are animals. So many dog behaviour problems are caused by people treating them as if they’re human rather than dogs.

its a bizarre british thing where people seem to care more for dogs than they do for their spouses or kids,best one is when someone pays 40 a month for an insurance for a dog and u ask how much do you pay for your own/partners life insurance- 0 lol

You sound really cool and edgy ...🙄

Dogs shouldn't be in shops full stop.
I'm beginning to be less tolerant & almost at a point of disliking dogs because of entitled people thinking their dog can do whatever they want.
My retort now to anyone who says their dog is friendly is "I'm not, and I bite"
YOU wanted the furry slobbery thing so keep it with YOU!

I went in Cafe Nero yesterday and had to negotiate about six dogs laid on the floor to get out with my coffees. I have a dog and I love him but we are not joined at the hip. I wouldn’t dream of taking him inside anywhere serving food and drink.

YANBU! I don’t own a dog. I don’t dislike them either.
I am sick of being sniffed in cafes etc. oh she’s very friendly, she won’t hurt you. Drives me mad. I don’t want to touch your dog and eat my food!
Dogs sat on chairs in pubs. I’ve even seen one with paws on a table.
They’re taking over!

Not keen on dogs in cafes to be honest, after DD was nipped by a little white terrier type thing when she was 3. The owner told me off for walking past to the toilet, apparently I should have known her shitty little terrier couldn’t be trusted.

Shes also asthmatic and doesn’t do well with dog hair, but I know the dog lovers out there will tell me that’s just our problem to deal with….