to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

I love dogs but I don't think they should be allowed everywhere especially eating places. We went to a really nice restaurant recently and someone had there dog there who was really annoying walking around the table and then eventually pissed in the middle of 3 other tables. All these people asked to be moved, and because it was full they left! So they lost out to 3 tables all because of bloody stupid dogs everywhere.

Given that some big chain shops like John Lewis and Waterstones allow dogs, it's odd that we don't hear about people having attacks of hives in the men's jeans section or buying urine-soaked books weekly, isn't it.

Or maybe, that doesn't happen and this is silly whataboutery.

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Is it a shitzu? 😂

I'll get my coat!

I think this is the sanest post on this thread. I have a dog and do exactly as you do and agree with everything you have written. The only exception should be for guide dogs and other bona fide assistance dogs.

I don't agree that dogs should be allowed in food establishments or retail shops either. My concern would be allergies for those buying the clothes for example. If a dog had brushed up against it, it could cause all sorts of problems. Also, I'm sure there are plenty of dogs who have urinated on clothes. Can you imagine if staff didn't know and someone bought a wee stained item of clothing?

I'm a dog owner (I have children too) and my dog only goes places with me if she will be staying outside. So if we go for a walk and there's 2 of us in case the other needs to go into a shop. I don't let my dog go up to anyone as I appreciate they may not want that. She is also kept on a lead at all times.

Maybe avoid Prague... They let dogs in most places, even the zoo.

This cracked me up 😂😂🤣🤣

I don’t mind well behaved dogs being in shops/ pubs with responsible owners.

Our local pub has a lot of people bringing in their dogs and they generally just sleep under the table while their owners eat their lunch lol.

I think once it gets to a certain time though dogs shouldn’t be allowed in the same way children aren’t. Just because I don’t think it’s fair on the dogs.

Me and DP went into the local last week as they had a band on and some guy in there brought his poor 2 pugs along with him for a night out. They were visibly stressed at the noise and not enjoying the music. Must have been hurting their ears. I think there’s a time and a place.

Mind you this might not be the norm. Our local does seem to be very relaxed, in the school holidays there’s always people bringing in their kids late while the parents drink… 🤔

Well said.

I agree that the increasing number of inconsiderate dog owners is the reason that people start threads like this. There have been hysterical over reactions from both sides - fanatic "love me love my dog" posters and "I hate dogs" posters

People need to remember that this ‘anti-dog’ sentiment has not always been there. Dogs and people have got on reasonably well. I don’t like dogs but have always stayed away from them, and their owners have generally looked after them properly. Coexisting, no problem.

It’s just now that due to the increase in sheer numbers of dogs, the number of shit owners has gone up. (Though on this thread a large number of decent owners has spoken up which is reassuring).

It is possible to live together sensibly if dog owners take responsibility and people don’t let kids run up to strange dogs. I don’t get why so many dog owners disbelieve the stories or try and defend appalling behaviour by citing the existence of children.

Look after your dogs properly (remember they are animals not humans) and these threads will disappear.

Is this the best defence you have? ;-)

Don't worry, it didn't happen.

How do you know?

We used to have an English setter and he used to shake himself and slobber everywhere all the time.

This is disgusting, I think I would have actually been sick 🤢.

What do you mean by "very telling"

The rise of anthropomorphism is to blame. A dog has it's own unique needs it's not a fur baby to be dragged along wherever you want. I predict a massive rise in aggressive dogs because lonely people are projecting their issues onto dogs.

Plenty of dog owners have children as well. Where are they on this thread?

I wouldn’t use the argument that dogs are worse. So why do dog-owners always bring up kids on these threads?
Because in their minds the dog is equivalent to a human child so they feel that the best analogy for their dog is a human child.

This. Every time
There are plenty of unruly child threads.
It is a completely different topic. Do they think you must have one or another.

Even if your kids are over 18 i would think money put into life insurance,rhat can be passed onto your children if husband dosent need, is worth more than a dog whos life expetancy at best is 13,vet bills can be kept down if you dont let your vet milk you and convince you an elderly dog with cancer after thousands of pounds worth of treatment will be a spring chicken again. Its only in the uk people torture dogs pay thousands upon thousands to drag out animals life extra few months or miserable years rather than put the animal down and not have it suffer.

‘Last week I was at an event that was supposed to be a lovely immersive art exhibit and it was totally fooked by 3 under-10s treating it as a playground’

If you posted that in isolation, I would say that the parents were awful for letting those kids run riot. It ruined it for others and is unacceptable. They should have been kicked out, and as a parent, I can’t abide indulgent parents who let their children behave like this.

I wouldn’t use the argument that dogs are worse. So why do dog-owners always bring up kids on these threads?

It’s amusing that many dog-owners’ only defence is ‘but but but children’ ;-)
They have no way to defend the fact they can’t control their dirty mutts so hit out at kids instead. That’s their only ‘argument’. Very telling.

I don't blame you and I would have done the same, I would have also left if a dog had defecated in the premises as described by a previous poster.
Did you leave without paying? Did the owner notice?

I was in my local cafe and a huge (well behaved) dog (Beethoven like) was at a nearby table. The dog shook itself in that way dogs usually do, and slabbers from its mouth went all over the nearby tables and into peoples food. It put me off my own food and we left.

for me, dogs are lovely but should not be where people are eating for this very reason.