to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

I am scared of dogs after being badly bitten as a child by a stray dog. I hate people telling me how friendly their dog is when it’s hurtling towards me - I don’t care!

i would stop going to shops if I felt unsafe or in’s comfortable with the number of dogs - too many dog owners who can’t control their dogs and are far too entitled. So while shops will make extra money from dog owners, they’ll lose it from the non dog owners who stop going.
thats life

A lot of the unreasonable love me love my dog types on this thread are being deliberately obtuse about this.

A lot of establishments don't make it clear if dogs are welcome or not, then you find out too late while choking over a cup of tea that a dog has been in said place half an hour earlier.

I'm very allergic to dogs. There is no medication which can solve that. Although people say.go places which don't let dogs in, sadly they are becoming less and less. I feel sad about being excluded from many places so dogs can go there.

@00100001 I don't see the harm in it. It goes in the dishwasher so it's not like the plate doesn't get washed.

She probably also enjoys rolling round in mud and eating shit... Doesn't mean you have to encourage that behaviour....

Literally see no need to feed a dog the scraps... It's not like it's hungry, surely?

I sometimes let the dog have a little bit if there's some left on the plate, like a bit of potato or meat. She loves it.

Why are your dogs licking your plates at all??

Is it important they get the remnants of your dinner?

@00100001 That wouldn't bother me at all. Our dog regularly licks our plates and they then go in the dishwasher.

Oh so if I gave you a choice of a plate for your dinner, and I said this plate has been licked by a dog, this one hasn't... They've both been through the dishwasher....You'd happily choose the dog licked one?

Dogs are fucking disgusting and filthy animals though.

Given this is Mumsnet, it’s statistically very likely that a large proportion of posters will be parents, so this is an odd comment. I am a dog owner and a parent. Personally, I wouldn’t take my dog to shops or cafes, I can’t imagine he’d have fun at all. However, you’re ignoring the fact that businesses choose to either welcome or ban dogs. The fact there’s an increase in dog friendly places suggests it’s good business sense rather than John Lewis or Wilko or the local cafe suddenly deciding they want Fido to visit.

Plate gets cleaned. Or do you refuse to use forks and spoons in eating establishments, as they have been in other people's mouths?
Dog jumping up on owner is not a problem.
A dog eating dropped food on the floor.... probably a blessing for the staff tbh.

Says who? Dogs do very much matter, to their owner and the businesses that allow them in. I put my Dogs rights to be in a Dog friendly establishment before anyone's children. Take the children somewhere dogs aren't allowed.

As a family, through generations, we have always had dogs. We currently don't as she died. I will avoid hotels if they allow dogs and pubs that have no separate dog area. Don't have a problem with a well behaved dog, under the pub table, snoozing.

I have a MAJOR problem with owners feeding their dogs from their plate, letting the dog jump up, or a dog that begs/drools/drags on lead over dropped food. DISGUSTING!

It’s easy to explain why the comparison of children to dogs is absurd.

Children matter. Dogs don’t.

You do you (bullshit bullshit) and I’ll do me.. tell an honest to god story of what happened . The dog was wet from drinking out a massive bowl of water. Mind your own and take your own bullshit comments elsewhere.

If you were allergic to kids you be dead. You'd have died as a kid. HTH.

I’m allergic to kids. We all have our crosses to bear. 🙄. Your weakness doesn’t mean we should all suffer. Anyway, from a financial point of view, it’s clearly worth it for businesses to be dog friendly so tough.

As with badly behaved children, you don’t notice the well behaved ones

I’ll be honest I don’t read those threads much so can’t comment but I’d certainly call out anyone I feel is embellishing the truth of a story. I don’t dispute that there are bad dogs and horrific irresponsible dog owners out there - I’ve seen them myself but making up or exaggerating stories to fit a narrative actually makes a mockery of the point they are trying to make. I’ve seen far more well behaved dogs in public spaces than I’ve seen bad ones and I think if people were honest on here they’d say the same.

I agree. But people don’t say that on those threads so much in my experience. They egg each other on with judgement of terrible modern parenting.

And as I haven’t even witnessed some of the less wild ones, based on this thread maybe I should assume that all of them are untrue because I personally haven’t experienced them.

I think some of the children behaving badly stories are also made up and exaggerated also!

I’m going to remember all the “it’s ok it didn’t really happen” stuff when the next “child behaving anti socially in cafe” thread comes up (today probably).

I really like dogs, I grew up with them and my parents have a lovely calm well-trained dog. One of my children doesn’t like dogs because they were bowled over by an excited puppy in the park when they were a toddler, it was very frightening for them. I basically just have to carry them a lot anywhere dogs aren’t on a lead because many dogs won’t keep away from them and many owners don’t bother to try.

I’m not actually that bothered by dogs in cafes or whatever because it’s about the venue owners making money by letting dogs in, but if everyone is going to say badly behaved dog tales are made up then I can only assume the same is true of badly behaved children tales.

Nah completely agree with those stories and I also think it’s disgusting and I have no problem pulling up a dog owner for said mess if I see it. If you have a dog then you are responsible for it and you clean up after it simple as that!

However, it’s the absolutely over the top bs half this thread is spouting. Savage dogs terrorising innocent, delicate patrons as they enjoy a meal or a pint. I give kudos for imagination but the stories lack plausibility and what’s that other key detail, oh yes truth. We can all make up ridiculous stories to fit the narrative of our point but if people are going to do it they should at least try to make it believable!

Ah, another dog hating thread...