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to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

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wheelings · 26/04/2023 12:12

Just went to Wilko recently who had a sign up saying all dogs welcome. Went to a bistro and they allowed dogs too. Had lunch listening to small yappy dogs.

Since when did it become acceptable to allow dogs into shops and food places?

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LucifersLight · 26/04/2023 12:47

It’s speciesist to exclude dogs generally.

The default should be dogs allowed everywhere except when there is legitimate medical/health reasons for excluding them. Then of course a business owner can obviously make their own minds up what they want for their private business premises. Imho.

I love it in Vienna where it seems all cafes allow dogs but their human companions are more sensible there in my experience.

CrescentstarMoon · 26/04/2023 12:46

I hope he was ok though I know chocolate can be toxic for dogs, he did look massively happy with himself I have to say 😂

Neededanewuserhandle · 26/04/2023 12:46

7Worfs · 26/04/2023 12:43

Yes, but how do you vet (har har Grin) well-behaved dogs from non-trained hell hounds? You can’t say you only allow poodles, but not XL bullies.

A caravan site I stayed at does exactly this. They have a list of banned breeds and if you aren't sure (our D Dog is of indeterminate origin) they ask for photos.

Jaxhog · 26/04/2023 12:45

I like dogs but think there is a time and a place for them. The occasional, well-behaved dog in a pub or casual cafe is fine. But a pack of bustling dogs right next to me when I'm eating is not fine. Nor is a little dog peeing under my chair.

Too many dog owners think their dogs are little gods and far more important than other people. (This also applies to cellos)

AgathaX · 26/04/2023 12:44

There are too many places allowing dogs these days, but also too many places allowing children too. It's probably for the same reasons though, trying to increase football and business.

Neededanewuserhandle · 26/04/2023 12:43

MNHQ - time for a separate section for the rabid dog haters please.

CrescentstarMoon · 26/04/2023 12:43

GoodChat · 26/04/2023 12:39

How is your child accidentally dropping something your fault but her dog eating something he shouldn't not her fault? Grin

I think she expected me to have seen and picked it up before Arlo ate it but he was so quick !!! She started shouting ‘oh Arlo ! No ! No ! Drop it!’ And shoving her hand in his mouth then had a go at me and said she had to see the vet as an emergency how he could die and stood in my way saying ‘give me YOUR details for the vet !’ 😳

7Worfs · 26/04/2023 12:43

GoodChat · 26/04/2023 12:38

Alarmed Grin

Dogs have been allowed in Wilkos for ages. I don't understand the issue there.

I can understand why people aren't happy them being on chairs etc in places that serve food but don't see an issue with a placid dog sitting under the table.

Yes, but how do you vet (har har Grin) well-behaved dogs from non-trained hell hounds? You can’t say you only allow poodles, but not XL bullies.

Neededanewuserhandle · 26/04/2023 12:43

Oh goody another dog hating thread, just what we need.

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 26/04/2023 12:43

Marvellous, isn’t it! Bloody love seeing dogs in shops and the like. Wonderful.

Runaway0 · 26/04/2023 12:42

There's too many chavs with poorly trained dogs who think it's their right to encroach on others enjoyment. What's with dogs being off lead in parks allowing them to jump up on members of the public?

Chasingadvice · 26/04/2023 12:40

x2boys · 26/04/2023 12:27

Mumsnet really hates dogs🙄
don't go.to.places that allow dogs if it's a problem for you.

Or don't allow dogs in places they have no business being in. Like places that serve food and drinks. You may be happy with dirty dogs running around you when you eat but other people are not. And yes- all dogs are dirty. Your 'perfectly clean' animal still licks other animals arses.

MadgeMarple · 26/04/2023 12:40

BreviloquentBastard · 26/04/2023 12:31

I don't really get it to be honest. I have three dogs, I love dogs, they're great... but I don't want to take them shopping with me or to restaurants or pubs, if I'm going out they stay home. That's the benefit of dogs over children, you don't have to take them with you everywhere you go!

I feel like COVID and lockdown produced a lot of bad dog owners who never did separation work with their dogs so can't leave them alone for fear they'll destroy the house. My three can be happily left for hours if necessary, they just loaf on the sofa until we get back.

Totally agree.

Went to a RHS garden at the weekend which was blissful for the absence of dogs (except assistance dogs). I can remember when they were the only ones allowed in shops and restaurants/cafes. They seem particularly unsuited for such places and unhygienic.

Feel sorry for those that are allergic or have a phobia. Quite hard to avoid them. Those that say go elsewhere - sometimes it's not obvious it's a dog friendly place until someone walks in with one. Really can't see why they can't be left at home...

7Worfs · 26/04/2023 12:39

I feel like COVID and lockdown produced a lot of bad dog owners who never did separation work with their dogs so can't leave them alone for fear they'll destroy the house.

I have a dog whisperer dog behaviourist friend and am constantly fascinated by her job. She tells me if dogs wreck stuff it’s because they aren’t looked after properly with appropriate physical and mental exercise.

BonnieGlasses · 26/04/2023 12:39

YANBU, it's ridiculous. The latest place in my neighbourhood to put up a dog friendly sign is an art gallery. I mean, why?!

Runaway0 · 26/04/2023 12:39

Elphame · 26/04/2023 12:36

I'm delighted.

Non dog lovers can always go to Wetherspoons. No dogs are allowed there even in the outside spaces.

No wetherspoons has shit food. The problem isn't dogs per say but people who never would have got one did so in lock down but haven't bothered to train them. I don't mind well behaved quiet dogs but sadly many owners are lazy.

GoodChat · 26/04/2023 12:39

CrescentstarMoon · 26/04/2023 12:20

I had someone have a massive go at me last week when I was out with my toddler . She dropped the last of her chocolate bar on the floor in the cafe and a dog hoovered it up - the owner went mad saying I should have been more aware of dd dropping it and how her dog will have to go to the vets and asking for my details !!!! It was about half a small bar I told her it’s the risk she takes going to an establishment serving food

How is your child accidentally dropping something your fault but her dog eating something he shouldn't not her fault? Grin

Chasingadvice · 26/04/2023 12:38

CrescentstarMoon · 26/04/2023 12:20

I had someone have a massive go at me last week when I was out with my toddler . She dropped the last of her chocolate bar on the floor in the cafe and a dog hoovered it up - the owner went mad saying I should have been more aware of dd dropping it and how her dog will have to go to the vets and asking for my details !!!! It was about half a small bar I told her it’s the risk she takes going to an establishment serving food

They should have left the mutt at home. Children always get treated like dirt by (some) entitled dog owners.

GoodChat · 26/04/2023 12:38

Alarmed Grin

Dogs have been allowed in Wilkos for ages. I don't understand the issue there.

I can understand why people aren't happy them being on chairs etc in places that serve food but don't see an issue with a placid dog sitting under the table.

YouAreNotBatman · 26/04/2023 12:37

Alarmed?

Must be miserable existence to be such a dementor!

Elphame · 26/04/2023 12:36

I'm delighted.

Non dog lovers can always go to Wetherspoons. No dogs are allowed there even in the outside spaces.

thedevilinablackdress · 26/04/2023 12:35

DriedFlowersLiveForever · 26/04/2023 12:29

We get it, lots of people don't like dogs on mn.
Real life is like a different world 🙄

Lots of people in real life don't like dogs too, or at least could do without them in cafes, restaurants or shops. Or all over us in the park. We just don't say it.

Georgie8 · 26/04/2023 12:34

Post-pandemic footfall in shopping centres etc. is down.
Research shows that allowing people to bring their dogs shopping etc. increases footfall, thereby increasing profits.
That is, I understand, the logic behind the exponential rise in the number of shops, cafes etc. allowing dogs. Any business is entitled to ban pet dogs and they would if, by allowing them, it dented their profits, so it obviously does increase footfall/profits.
Having said that, I’m not overly keen and don’t take my dog -neither of us would enjoy the experience!

thedevilinablackdress · 26/04/2023 12:32

Was fairly surprised to see the Gaucho restaurant near my office advertising being dog friendly. It seems to pitch itself as a swanky glam place. Seemed wrong.

BreviloquentBastard · 26/04/2023 12:31

I don't really get it to be honest. I have three dogs, I love dogs, they're great... but I don't want to take them shopping with me or to restaurants or pubs, if I'm going out they stay home. That's the benefit of dogs over children, you don't have to take them with you everywhere you go!

I feel like COVID and lockdown produced a lot of bad dog owners who never did separation work with their dogs so can't leave them alone for fear they'll destroy the house. My three can be happily left for hours if necessary, they just loaf on the sofa until we get back.