to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

Whereas humans are bleach clean! No chance of catching anything from a human (Let’s quickly forget the manmade COVID pandemic).

This. And I've worked in many kitchens over the years, I would be more concerned about the cleanliness in there. 15 years old pot washers on a couple of quid an hour don't care.

It's grim like, and I bet people would be kicking off if a cafe was full of rotties or great danes, but small fuckerpoos seem to be fine and dandy.

I must admit I haven’t noticed this, but I don’t go shopping much.

Dogs have always been allowed on buses though my mum said when she was a child they charged for them. So I was puzzled by this yesterday.

What has changed and is irritating is the dog indulgence and the yapping when they go out in gardens in greater numbers than before.

It's because of silly entitled owners treating them as though they're human. They're animals. Should absolutely NOT be in shops, in particular food establishments. I saw a dog sat up in the booth with his mucky paws and face all over the table. Absolutely disgusting I don't know why health and safety allow it!

If you're scared of bacteria how can you even leave the house? There's bacteria everywhere. YOU shed dried skin, hair and maybe even drool! 😂

One of my favourite local restaurants allows dogs. I love it, especially when the owners don't mind you petting them. I won't take my dog out though. I find it too stressful.

That sounds rubbish for you all, I’m really sorry. I don’t take my dogs to enclosed public spaces as a rule, but on the whole if I got any signals that someone had major phobia or allergies, I’d give a wide berth so as to try not to make it worse.
It’s a shame that the people most likely to ask nicely for this kind of consideration are often those least likely to want to “impose”.

I’ve never had dogs running around me in dog friendly places. Had plenty of kids doing that though.

Dogs shed dried skin, hair and drool. When they pant or shake, they create a cloud of bacteria, mould spores and dander. They also leave traces of feces behind when they sit on furniture.
Some dogs carry parasites and diseases that can transmit to humans, especially children or those who are immunocompromised.

Some people have allergies to dogs.
Some are afraid of them.

I think previously dogs were seen as dirty pets.

Now they're seen as family members.

This! Also a dog lover and owner and I don't get how, especially since lockdown, people think they're like kids and can't go anywhere without them.

If "more and ore places are allowing dogs" it is for one reason only.

They make more profit that way.

I imagine it also ultimately works to increase the popularity of the remaining places which don't allow dogs, boosting their profits, too.

Win-win, one would think, except you might have to travel further to find a dog-free tea shop.

I am pleased that our now dog friendly restaurant remains relatively dog free. The other local cafe is tiny and I wont go in it as I regularly found myself sat next to a large breed or someone with a small breed on there lap feeding it off the plate. Gross all round and I own a dog.

I don't want to sit in a restaurant with a dog so I choose to go to places without them or with not many dogs, not bothered with dogs in non food stores - alot of lock down dogs have separation anxiety so being able to take them with you is great

Nah they are different. We'll have a new thread every time someone discovers another shop/cafe/restaurant brand that allows dogs. Yesterday's thread was about buses. Today's is Wilko's.

Coming next week: Dobbies.

We were walking out as we had finished and we’re going home …… dd was just holding the rest of her chocolate to eat on the way to the station. She had sat down the whole time up till then

Good god, why do people say things like this? WE, human beings, invited dogs into our lives, we made them dependant on us, we used them to our benefit - to help the blind, to find bombs, to find people who are lost, to protect us and livestock from predators, to find bodies, to hunt, to search for drugs, to help us herd other animals, to alert us to epileptic fits etc. They save FAR, FAR more lives than they damage and despite being animals with far less intelligence than us, we hold them to a higher standard than we hold ourselves, expecting them to behave like robots. More dogs are beaten and hurt by people than the other way around, but who cares, they’re just animals, right?

I fucking HATE the human race, absolute parasites, we just take and take.

Same thread every day.

I feel so mixed on this. I work in a high end boutique and we allow dogs. 90% of the dogs are calm, well behaved and cause no issues. Plus we all love seeing them and saying hi to them. However, the other 10% are either chaotic or like to pee everywhere.

That being said, we get a lot more well behaved dogs than we get well behaved children… (and I say this as a mum myself). The amount of parents who let their kids come in and cause carnage is far more frustrating to me than the odd dog peeing. Again, I say this as a mum to a very restless and easily annoyed toddler so I’m not hating on kids in general.

I don't think that objecting to dogs pissing and shitting (and barking, and jumping up) in the places that you eat and shop makes you a dog hater, does it?

I've seen dogs pissing on low shelving in Home Bargins. And the Silverburn shopping centre in Glasgow tried going dog friendly then had to backtrack due to fouling problems. Grim.

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgows-silverburn-stop-dog-friendly-26185139

Let me know when you can call house

Obviously no need for a question mark after not at all.

I hate that everyone is expected to like dogs just because a lot of people love them.

Do I mind you liking dogs and owning a dog? Not at all? Do I object to your dog running up to me and licking/jumping up on me? Absolutely. Would I like to eat in a restaurant/coffee shop etc and not have to contend with dogs? Yes.

What have you got against cellos? They definitely should be allowed everywhere - take up a lot of space, but generally clean and make a much more pleasant sound than dogs or children…

My most mumsnet encounter in real life was about this
I once asked a pub if it was dog friendly, they said it wasn't so I said in a neutral tone "ah nevermind" and went to walk out.The customer by the door had a rant about how I should leave my dog at home, that I was entitled etc

The things is that as I had my dog outside, If it wasn't dog friendly then it didn't work for me. It's no more entitled then asking if they have suitable food options, or allow children.