to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

Because the dogs rights triumph the rights of human beings! How silly of you not to have realised that people come second to dogs and if a person cannot cope with dogs that's absolutely their fault!

(In jest of course. I feel for you and anyone else you cannot handle dogs especially ones that are not on leads but (some) dog owners will literally foam at the mouth defending the bad behaviour of their mutts instead of just putting them on a fucking lead)

Your description is perfect. And I don't like small kids rushing around freely any more than I like dogs doing it. If the dogs had stayed under the table and dozed I wouldn't have been so bothered.

You miss my point, I’m not against putting dogs on a lead if you look back at my quotes here, I said it wasn’t ok for dogs to jump on people, my issue was with this statement, which is untrue:

A question to some dog owners why is it acceptable to unleash and allow them jump up on strangers. It's not acceptable from any other animal

The fact is, it IS acceptable from other animals.

We leash pets as much for their own protection as anything else, because however well owners think they’ve trained their pets they’re still ultimately unpredictable animals driven by instinct. That’s why most people expect dogs to be leashed in situations where they can run into the road, lunge at another dog, jump on a human who might kick it away, or access food it probably shouldn’t be eating. I’m not sure who you’re expecting to have leashed the deer, but if its owner were taking it out for a coffee break, I’d like to think they’d have done so.

So it was unpopular because she created & tolerated a chaotic atmosphere that few would visit more than once. Would it have been any better if there were small kids rushing around freely, crawling under tables and snatching food from plates? I'd say no. Would it have been better if dogs were allowed in but lay quietly under the tables and dozed? I'd say yes.

That's the whole point though - becoming really difficult to do that!

So only animals that kill should be muzzled and on a lead? Does that include humans, men in particular?!

But that doesn’t make the original statement any more true, no other animal is expected to be leashed or not put their paws on you! I have had a cat jump on me in public once actually, and had a deer run out of some woodland and almost right into me - no big deal.

2017, 2020, 2022.
This does not include cats eating their owners who had already died.

*Plus I was being sarcastic and foolishly thought that the it scared my shark bit would've given it away.

😂😂😂😂well said

The way my dog pulls me into our local to greet the landlord tells me it's her fave place to be. She's given free leftovers there!

Sadly not, the owner was an amateur cook and dog lover who thought her home made cakes alone would be enough to keep the business going. She had little grasp of any of the skills required in the hospitality business.
It wouldn't have been so bad if the entitled dog owners hadn't let their dogs rush around freely, going under everybody's tables. I actually saw one snatch a cake from somebody's plate and that was it for me.

The brass neck of this woman. A loose dog can find bad things to eat anywhere - parks, pavement, beach… it’s her responsibility to keep the dog safe.

You should’ve complained to staff - she was harassing you in front of your young child.

God we’ve all turned intolerant haven’t we? The person who’s toddler dropped the bar could have easily thought ‘well this person is terrified for their dog as any amount of chocolate can be poisonous’ and the person shouting could have thought ‘okay this was just a horrendous accident’. There’s too much blame in the world now post Covid. People don’t remember that fantastic phrase’you can’t get mad at an accident!’ And that cuts both ways here!!

Me too. This is the dream!

When was someone killed by a domestic cat ? Haha to be fair my cat has better recall then most of the lockdown dogs. I do like dogs actually I met a beautiful dog at a rescue (visiting for work) who waited for me to invite him for a stroke. If I didn't work full time I would have taken him beautiful animal.

I suppose it depends if its a 'good boy' or not.

A few weeks ago me and DH went for a quick drink in a local pub, we didn't have a table booked so plonked down on a sofa by the fire. Someone came in with 2 big dogs (lab & alsation) and asked to sit next to us and the dogs just lay down and where perfectly sweet. No issues.

A few years back though I remember going to a bistro pub in the city and it was like doggy bloody daycare with dogs growling/fighting, dogs jumping up at your table to steal food, wandering round alone, bowls of water getting spilled everywhere. It seems from what I could tell the 'worst' dog (completely untrained) was possibly the owners dog and had free fun of the place but half the other customers dogs didnt seem much better. I guess they saw the owner and took his lead to not having to control their dogs at all. We left and made a note never to go back.

My husband use to work in events and there was a pub that booked him a few times, they had this big old rottweiler type dog who just milled around the pub. he was totally docile and would come up to see if you wanted to pet him and if not just take himself off to find a spot for a nap. Once again no issue.

Yeah, in all my travels across Europe I don't think I've noticed this except in the outside seating area of bars and cafes.

Unlike grapes/raisins etc, where even one can cause an extremely bad reaction so is an emergency, with chocolate there is a formula based on dog weight and coco content on how much an individual dog can digestive with significant issue. Assuming it was a small part of a milk chocolate bar then the coco content would be low and likely not enough to cause issue.

Same, except cats should be on a lead and muzzled at all times because of my allergies and one stood near me once and yowled which scared my shark.

Has a huge domestic cat/rabbit ever jumped up on a human while they were out walking/running? It's unacceptable to allow huge dogs to jump up on people then some dog walkers will say they are just being friendly and complain if you tell them to leash them. I've never had a cow , cat , badger , fox, rabbit ever jump up on me while I've been walking it's always dogs!!!

@LaylaLjungberg

Mine said it's Harrods or nothing, although could probably be persuaded by Harvey Nicks foodhall

Don't ever go to Europe any of you who don't like dogs everywhere. They've always had dogs in restaurants, shops etc in Europe without all this endless drama - even very high end restaurants in France, Germany, Italy etc will allow dogs in. Rather like having a culture of being much more tolerant of children out with their parents eating meals - and consequently the children are used to being in restaurants and much better behaved as a result than here - they are pretty laid back about dogs too and without all this endless (every bloody day on MN) drama.

It’s not, but it’s also not true to say it’s unacceptable from any other animal. What other animal is expected to be leashed? Where are cats trained not to put their paws on people?!

Dogs ARE quick.
They are opportunists when it comes to food.
She should have trained her dog to “Leave!”
Or else hooked it out of her dog’s mouth.

EXPECTING you to pay the vet bill?

She should have vet insurance for stuff like this.

My dog are a grape.
£280 !

My fault.

Having said that I’m not sure my dog wants to go to wilko.