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to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

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wheelings · 26/04/2023 12:12

Just went to Wilko recently who had a sign up saying all dogs welcome. Went to a bistro and they allowed dogs too. Had lunch listening to small yappy dogs.

Since when did it become acceptable to allow dogs into shops and food places?

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Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:46

Lockheart · 27/04/2023 13:42

Only guide dogs are allowed in supermarkets. Regular pet dogs are not.

There's a man in my local Tesco that walks about with his husky
I kid you not🤬

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/04/2023 13:46

Tanith · 27/04/2023 13:44

I've been asked to allow a parent to bring her dog to toddler group.
I refused, but I'm aware of a group that does allow a dog in.

Why would you take your dog to a toddler group?

YouJustDoYou · 27/04/2023 13:46

Tanith · 27/04/2023 13:44

I've been asked to allow a parent to bring her dog to toddler group.
I refused, but I'm aware of a group that does allow a dog in.

No way would I allow someone's dog in with toddlers!! That's insane.

YouJustDoYou · 27/04/2023 13:45

I wouldn't mind if the owners actually had control over their animals so they don't jump up all the time, but so many just bray out the name of the dog over and over whilst the dog ignores them completely.

Tanith · 27/04/2023 13:44

I've been asked to allow a parent to bring her dog to toddler group.
I refused, but I'm aware of a group that does allow a dog in.

KimberleyClark · 27/04/2023 13:42

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/04/2023 13:41

Only guide dogs or assistance dogs, I live in a town maybe it's different in a city.

I live in a city and have never seen a non-assistance dog in a supermarket.

Lockheart · 27/04/2023 13:42

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:38

Have you not, I have.

Only guide dogs are allowed in supermarkets. Regular pet dogs are not.

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/04/2023 13:41

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:38

Have you not, I have.

Only guide dogs or assistance dogs, I live in a town maybe it's different in a city.

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:38

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/04/2023 13:32

Don't be so stupid, never seen any ordinary dog in a Supermarket.

Have you not, I have.

yoohoo0 · 27/04/2023 13:33

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:29

Imagine the headline:
"MAN'S ARM RIPPED OFF IN TESCO DOG ATTACK"
Tesco frantically trying to cover it up whilst multiple footages of the attack with blood sprayed all over the chiller cabinets are uploaded on social media.
I strongly suspect that would put an end to all the dog friendliness.

I think an attack is going to be the only way to reverse the dog friendly policies.

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/04/2023 13:32

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:29

Imagine the headline:
"MAN'S ARM RIPPED OFF IN TESCO DOG ATTACK"
Tesco frantically trying to cover it up whilst multiple footages of the attack with blood sprayed all over the chiller cabinets are uploaded on social media.
I strongly suspect that would put an end to all the dog friendliness.

Don't be so stupid, never seen any ordinary dog in a Supermarket.

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 13:29

Imagine the headline:
"MAN'S ARM RIPPED OFF IN TESCO DOG ATTACK"
Tesco frantically trying to cover it up whilst multiple footages of the attack with blood sprayed all over the chiller cabinets are uploaded on social media.
I strongly suspect that would put an end to all the dog friendliness.

yoohoo0 · 27/04/2023 13:18

fitzwilliamdarcy · 27/04/2023 12:29

I suspect the reason why many hate dogs is because they know that a far bigger segment of the general public will stop and fuss over a dog but not their child. It’s jealousy, basically.

I work with someone who gets cross a lot about how nobody will stop and ask about or fuss over her “gorgeous bundle” but they will over “some random mutt”.

As for care homes etc. I’m hoping for more for your kids than to do that job - I hope that care homes no longer exist and there’ll be a way to end your own life with dignity when you get to the point where someone would have to wipe your arse for you. Would also stop the endless nonsense of “you must tolerate my obnoxious sticky children because they’ll be wiping your bum one day” or whatever.

You are deluded if you think this is the reason. People who do not like dogs do not care if people fuss over slobbering filthy mutts.

AskMeMore · 27/04/2023 13:07

Exactly the same though as those complaining about badly behaved kids. They just get told to places not welcoming of kids. In reality almost impossible to find.
We all have to learn how to share spaces better, people and animals.

SquareRootOfAllEvil · 27/04/2023 12:46

Fannehflaps · 27/04/2023 12:41

It really is as simple as not going to dog friendly places if you hate them THAT much.

In some areas (like mine) it’s getting almost impossible to find places that aren’t dog-friendly, though - the balance has really shifted over the last couple of years.

I’m pretty indifferent to dogs so no need to avoid them (although I wish some of the ones round here were better trained), but it would be really difficult for anyone with allergies or an actual phobia.

Fannehflaps · 27/04/2023 12:41

It really is as simple as not going to dog friendly places if you hate them THAT much.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 27/04/2023 12:29

I suspect the reason why many hate dogs is because they know that a far bigger segment of the general public will stop and fuss over a dog but not their child. It’s jealousy, basically.

I work with someone who gets cross a lot about how nobody will stop and ask about or fuss over her “gorgeous bundle” but they will over “some random mutt”.

As for care homes etc. I’m hoping for more for your kids than to do that job - I hope that care homes no longer exist and there’ll be a way to end your own life with dignity when you get to the point where someone would have to wipe your arse for you. Would also stop the endless nonsense of “you must tolerate my obnoxious sticky children because they’ll be wiping your bum one day” or whatever.

wheelings · 27/04/2023 11:58

thehorsehasnowbolted · 27/04/2023 09:48

Agreed.

I like dogs, and in the main I have no issues with them.

But it's frustrating how they put animals (or anything else frankly) before the welfare and rights of people ATM.

It's as if humans don't matter anymore

@thehorsehasnowbolted Completely agree that humans don't matter anymore. This is why some dog owners tell people to get over their fear of dogs.

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CrescentstarMoon · 27/04/2023 11:42

DyslexicPoster · 26/04/2023 18:28

Again, who will be wiping your bum when your in a care home? Someone's kid possibly. Such a shame humans can't be beamed down well adjusted to life at 40 isn't it?

No surely by then dogs will have been trained to do that too 😂
Care workers are underpaid and it seems most people prefer dogs to humans anyway 🤷‍♀️

KimberleyClark · 27/04/2023 09:58

We don’t have a dog currently but dogsit for neighbours and family. I wouldn’t want to take them shopping but do like to take them to coffee shops/pubs/away for a weekend once in a while. We know a great country hotel where dog owners have their own dining room and extra sausage for the dog provided at breakfast upon request.

thehorsehasnowbolted · 27/04/2023 09:48

thedevilinablackdress · 26/04/2023 12:32

Was fairly surprised to see the Gaucho restaurant near my office advertising being dog friendly. It seems to pitch itself as a swanky glam place. Seemed wrong.

Agreed.

I like dogs, and in the main I have no issues with them.

But it's frustrating how they put animals (or anything else frankly) before the welfare and rights of people ATM.

It's as if humans don't matter anymore

vivainsomnia · 27/04/2023 09:42

I remember on a thread here, somebody saying that they let their small dog sit on train tables
That was me! What you forgot to say is that I also said that I cleaned it afterwards which is a lot more than many do. The other day, I got there and the person next to me was leaving their tissues on the desk after blowing their nose. I moved. I know which one I reached be next to!

A lot of dog owners don't really understand dogs or know how to train them
The irony of this statement! MN is full of posters convinced they are experts in dogs behaviours and needs yet are clearly clueless to the fact that dogs have différents needs depending on their breed, age, and social upbringing. Some indeed would be much happier at home for 4 hours alone than in a crowded place. Others are known not to cope alone more than an hour or so and thrive in social and mental stimulation and love to be out and about.

But these posters are if course experts! Like it's been said, my social life with my dog is absolutely nothing like MN. I'm still to meet someone who claims to suffer badly from a dog allergy and I'm still to experience all that awful behaviour in my local park that seem to be a daily occurence here. Still, at least in makes for entertaining reading!

Tekkentime · 27/04/2023 08:43

WalkingAwayNow · 27/04/2023 08:19

Good post. Yes I feel sorry for the dogs too. And wonder how their owners would feel if their dog received an aggressive response from someone in a cafe.

’Dogs on seats however is unhygienic and unsociable.’

I remember on a thread here, somebody saying that they let their small dog sit on train tables. The tables off which people eat. Because their dog ‘liked the view’. I imagine not all dog owners would think this was appropriate…

There's going to be more anti-dog aggression in response to the massive rise in untrained dogs and owners, but owners will pretend to be shocked by it.

Lovetotravel123 · 27/04/2023 08:35

My father was bitten by a dog as a child and so is frightened of them. My son and husband are allergic. They don’t have a choice about these things but dog owners do have a choice. It’s not very fair.

WalkingAwayNow · 27/04/2023 08:19

greenel · 27/04/2023 08:09

Must say I have noticed this more since pandemic.

I love dogs and have owned them but would never think to take them to good places and shops or even pubs. I didn't want them to have to sit still under a table for hours without freedom to roam or accidentally eat something off or wander around a store they can't even appreciate. Personally think it's very selfish of the owners - dogs are not humans we should just expect to accompany us everywhere around the daily business of life.

I'm also noticing many more dogs on the tube at rush hour. I feel very sorry for the animals as rush hour is awful for humans all cramped together, how much worse for an animal who can't move or stretch and when it's a small breed - I'm always concerned someone will stumble over them or injure them accidentally. Dogs on seats however is unhygienic and unsociable. And making life harder for your cleaners.

A lot of dog owners don't really understand dogs or know how to train them. Seen this happen in pubs quite often now - dogs who have not been socialised with other dogs (or even people) kicking off. Or having them off leash in crowded places or parks. I find it selfish of the owners - and not pleasant for a dog should the worst happen.

Good post. Yes I feel sorry for the dogs too. And wonder how their owners would feel if their dog received an aggressive response from someone in a cafe.

’Dogs on seats however is unhygienic and unsociable.’

I remember on a thread here, somebody saying that they let their small dog sit on train tables. The tables off which people eat. Because their dog ‘liked the view’. I imagine not all dog owners would think this was appropriate…