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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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ananass · 12/04/2023 11:59

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:56

How have I 'got it wrong' - it's you admitting you have no training?

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It’s very arrogant to ask this after you refused to answer @MyopicBunny about your own training 🤣

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:56

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:52

I think you’ve got that mixed up. It’s you and your apologist cohort not doing yourselves any favours.

Come back when you’ve done a mental health assessment on the DL in person and had it accredited by a genuine mental health professional.

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How have I 'got it wrong' - it's you admitting you have no training?

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:54

Ha ha

You must be joking if you think I'm going to lay out my qualifications and expertise for you!

Don't flatter yourself - I have no interest in them. I'm just pointing out that your argument is utter nonsense because you're the one trying to spin the narrative of what happened.

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:53

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:52

Ha ha

You must be joking if you think I'm going to lay out my qualifications and expertise for you!

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And yet you asked me to do the same.

One rule for you and one for others, eh? No wonder you defend the indefensible.

As I said - hypocrisy.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:52

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:49

The burden is on people saying that dementia causes people to behave like pedophiles to show your level of expertise. Because you're the ones trying to spin what happened.

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Ha ha

You must be joking if you think I'm going to lay out my qualifications and expertise for you!

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:52

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:49

So no training, as I thought

You're not doing yourself any favours

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I think you’ve got that mixed up. It’s you and your apologist cohort not doing yourselves any favours.

Come back when you’ve done a mental health assessment on the DL in person and had it accredited by a genuine mental health professional.

HRTQueen · 12/04/2023 11:51

No one around the DL stepped in
No one around that young boy saved him from the sexual assault

this is the power he has and his actions are not questioned if they were someone would have come to the rescue

if dementia this would be reoccurring not simply how ten DL behaves

he has been caught for all the world to see

Bloopsie · 12/04/2023 11:50

Not a word before this event that he has dementia and if he has, his closest aides would knownisntbit irresponsible to wheelbhim out to the company of children if he can have inappropriate out outbursts.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:49

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:46

@onirgellep I don’t need training, I can see the evidence right there in celluloid.

So no training, as I thought

You're not doing yourself any favours

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:49

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:43

@ananass

Oh that's interesting

Please remind me where you did your elderly mental health training

The burden is on people saying that dementia causes people to behave like pedophiles to show your level of expertise. Because you're the ones trying to spin what happened.

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:48

I would also like to call BS on the post where someone says that 87 year old men are not held to account for their actions by the police. They most certainly are. Anyone committing a driving offence in my town because they're too old to be behind the wheel has the book thrown at them.

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:47

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:39

Equally do you get daily reports of the DL life which contradict this?
Thought not

That's a stupid argument. Since we're discussing something that the DL did - something that there is no dispute that he did.

In the absence of daily reports about his life, he will be judged on his actions just like any other person is.

Nail on head!

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:46

@onirgellep I don’t need training, I can see the evidence right there in celluloid.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:43

@ananass

Oh that's interesting

Please remind me where you did your elderly mental health training

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:43

@TokyoStories I know enough to think dementia was not the reason for why what he did what he did.

TokyoStories · 12/04/2023 11:40

@ananass

You really have no clue about dementia, do you?

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:39

Equally do you get daily reports of the DL life which contradict this?
Thought not

That's a stupid argument. Since we're discussing something that the DL did - something that there is no dispute that he did.

In the absence of daily reports about his life, he will be judged on his actions just like any other person is.

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:39

And to all the dementia theorists, here is an interview with the Dalai Lama in 2020, where he discusses science, including quantum physics.

There is no way this man dementia.

Dalai Lama - Extended interview from Infinite Potential the movie

Watch The Filmhttps://www.infinitepotential.com/opt...“Infinite Potential: The Life and Ideas of David Bohm” is a feature documentary about the man Einstein ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AGXPzv2MI4

Ponoka7 · 12/04/2023 11:31

@Mangogirl12 pickledandpuzzled could start by not branding people keyboard warriors because they don't want this to fade. As has been said, the sudden language used to defend the Dal's behaviour is disturbing, as is the media blackout. There's many people from India having to backtrack on their immediate thoughts on this, because of death threats. The whole 'i'm busy safeguarding actual victims' was said by Easter Ranson when her friend Jimmy Savile was having accusations thrown at him. Well whoever wants to do that, is free to, it doesn't mean that other people should be shut down.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 11:23

pickledandpuzzled · 12/04/2023 11:03

And I am a female, practicing Christian, know little about Buddhism, have no interest in the Dalai Lama, do endless amounts of safeguarding because of my employment and voluntary work, not because I'm a social worker. I was interested in the mechanism of managing a situation like this one, given the DL's position and context. The boy's needs are for me the obvious, assumed priority in this situation- and his welfare is not enhanced by the constant sharing are picking over of the video. The involvement of the police is a matter for the police in the place the incident occurred and where he lives, in the same way British child abuse tourists are a matter for the British police and the Thai police.
My safeguarding training due to previous employment, voluntary work, and current involvement with church has been eye opening and distressing. I am not inclined to view people in authority as above reproach, indeed the opposite. I've circumvented people in authority who weren't following appropriate safeguarding procedures. I'm thoroughly GC and disgusted by the ideology sweeping schools and affecting my immediate family.

But crack on with your enthusiastic creation of back stories to explain people who don't whole heartedly agree with you, and accuse them of being complicit, stupid, gullible, wilfully blind, racist and- oh yes a truly random extra accusation about gender ideologues.

Anyway, I'm off to work on actual effective day to day stuff that keeps people safe. I'll leave you keyboard warriors to carry on saving the world, one rant at a time.

Well said

ananass · 12/04/2023 11:17

pickledandpuzzled · 12/04/2023 11:03

And I am a female, practicing Christian, know little about Buddhism, have no interest in the Dalai Lama, do endless amounts of safeguarding because of my employment and voluntary work, not because I'm a social worker. I was interested in the mechanism of managing a situation like this one, given the DL's position and context. The boy's needs are for me the obvious, assumed priority in this situation- and his welfare is not enhanced by the constant sharing are picking over of the video. The involvement of the police is a matter for the police in the place the incident occurred and where he lives, in the same way British child abuse tourists are a matter for the British police and the Thai police.
My safeguarding training due to previous employment, voluntary work, and current involvement with church has been eye opening and distressing. I am not inclined to view people in authority as above reproach, indeed the opposite. I've circumvented people in authority who weren't following appropriate safeguarding procedures. I'm thoroughly GC and disgusted by the ideology sweeping schools and affecting my immediate family.

But crack on with your enthusiastic creation of back stories to explain people who don't whole heartedly agree with you, and accuse them of being complicit, stupid, gullible, wilfully blind, racist and- oh yes a truly random extra accusation about gender ideologues.

Anyway, I'm off to work on actual effective day to day stuff that keeps people safe. I'll leave you keyboard warriors to carry on saving the world, one rant at a time.

The boy's needs are for me the obvious, assumed priority in this situation

Do you know pickled, that’s the first and only time on this thread you have talked about the boy’s needs at all.

Your posts have been hyperfocused on dementia as the cause, and you have minimised the tongue sucking as non sexual. You have also talked about how you were given slobbering kisses as a child and how much you hated them and how you are so careful with your own child to ensure the same doesn’t happen to them.

And yet in your dozens of posts, this is the only time you’ve shown any consideration for this child. Remarkable, isn’t it?

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 11:12

There is nothing anybody can do. like I said, there are much higher forces controlling the narrative when it comes to the DL. I just hope that every individual recognises their own responsibility in not giving him the full benefit of the doubt when there is a stark imbalance of power working against this child.

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 11:12

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 10:59

It appears to be the same thrill of doing it accidentally on purpose in a crowded group setting where there are cameras around. It is the thrill of not getting caught or testing the blindness of devotion by their zombie-like devotees.

The spiritual leader in my cult is the same. They are never satisfied with their large collection of toys. It is the thrill of trying to get one that doesn't come wrapped in fancy packaging and nobody was aware was up for sale (not least the 'toys' themselves).

I agree

Mangogirl12 · 12/04/2023 11:09

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 11:07

What you are saying is that you are happy for the faraway culture to deal with it as they see fit and pass the buck onto the Indian authorities even though you know they are corrupt and won't hold the DL to account. Nor will the child get the psychological support that he needs, but out of sight, out of mind?
As long as you are doing a good job supporting British kids within a more robust safeguarding system then you can sleep well at night. That's fine

What you are saying is that you are happy for the faraway culture to deal with it as they see fit and pass the buck onto the Indian authorities even though you know they are corrupt and won't hold the DL to account.

What do you expect pickledandpuzzled to do about it?

What is it that you actually want?

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